McMaster: U.S. Preparing for Preventive War with North Korea

[Stonepounder]

http://www.globalresearch.ca/mcmaster-u-s-preparing-for-preventive-war-with-north-korea/5602863

The United States is preparing for all options to counter the growing threat from North Korea, including launching a “preventive war,” national security adviser H.R. McMaster said in an interview that aired Saturday on MSNBC. The comments come after North Korea carried out two tests of intercontinental ballistic missiles in the past month and after the president said he has been clear he will not tolerate North Korea’s threats to attack the U.S. with nuclear weapons.

The key excerpts (full transcript):

H.H.: Let me switch if I can to North Korea, which is really pressing. And– and remind our audience, at the Aspen Institute ten days ago, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Joe Dunford, said, “There’s always a military– option. It would be horrific.” Lindsey Graham on Today Show earlier this week said– “We need to destroy the regime and their deterrent.” Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said on Tuesday, I believe, to North Korea, “You are leaving us no choice but to protect ourselves.” And then the Chairman of the Chief of Staff of the Army said, “Just because every choice is a bad choice doesn’t mean you don’t have to choose.” Are we looking at a preemptive strike? Are you trying to prepare us, you being collectively, the administration and people like Lindsey Graham and Tom Cotton for a first strike North Korea?
H.R.M. Well, we really, what you’re asking is– is are we preparing plans for a preventive war, right? A war that would prevent North Korea from threatening the United States with a nuclear weapon. And the president’s been very clear about it. He said, “He’s not gonna tolerate North Korea being able to threaten the United States” if they have nuclear weapons that can threaten the United States; It’s intolerable from the president’s perspective. So of course, we have to provide all options to do that. And that includes a military option.

Now, would we like to resolve it short of what would be a very costly war, in terms of– in terms of the suffering of mainly the South Korean people? The– the ability of– of that North– North Korean regime to hold the South hostage to conventional fire’s capabilities, artillery and so forth, Seoul being so close. We’re cognizant of all of that. And so what we have to do is– is everything we can to– to pressure this regime, to pressure Kim Jong-un and those around him such that they conclude, it is in their interest to denuclearize. And there are really I think three critical things, came out of the president’s very successful summit with– President Xi of China that were different– that were different from past efforts to work with China, which has always been, you know, the– the desire, right, to work with China– on the– on the North Korean problem.

How many casualties will there be:

HH: In 1994, when the first North Korean deal with signed, the people who executed it, Gallucci, Dan Poneman, Joe Wit wrote a book. And they quoted a general saying, “If there is a conflict,” called Going Critical, “there will be a million casualties.” A million casualties. Is that still a good estimate of what happens if– preemptive strike unfolds in North Korea, General?
HRM: You know, one thing about war. It’s impossible oftentimes to predict. It’s always impossible to predict the future course of events. Because war is a continuous interaction of opposites, a continuous interaction between your forces and those of the enemy. It involves not just the capability to use force, but also intentions and things that are just unknowable at the outset. And so I think it’s important to– to look at– range of estimates of what could happen, because it’s clear that at war, it’s unpredictable. And so you always have to ask the question, “What happens next? What are the risks? How do you mitigate those risks?” And– and obviously, you know, war is– is– is the most serious decision any leader has to make. And so what can we do to make sure we exhaust our possibilities and exhaust our other opportunities to accomplish this very clear objective of denuclearization of the peninsula short of war?

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You know, Trump may be right. He might accomplish things that no other President has done. Like killing a million or so people and launching a nuclear attack on Korea.

So long, mom, I'm off to drop the bomb
So don't wait up for me.
And there while you swelter
Down in your fallout shelter
You can see me
On your TV
...
And when this war is over
I'll hurry back to you
About and hour and a half from now.
--Tom Lehrer

[dalton99a]

1. Trump to Seoul: Prepare to die

[underpants]

8. Yep. Lots of artillery aimed at 20 Million people

This could be a complete disaster

[milestogo]

2. "preventive war" is an oxymoron

[arthritisR_US]

6. I think so too.

[Aristus]

3. This is a nightmare...

n/t

[Solly Mack]

4. - launching a preventive war, -

Do they giggle while coming up with this shit?

Let's not call it murder. Let's call it challenging a life based reality. (giggle, giggle) Good one, Bob! (giggle, giggle)

[atreides1]

5. McMaster can go f**k himself!!!

"Preventive war was an invention of Hitler. I would not even listen to anyone seriously that came and talked about such a thing.”


"When people speak to you about a preventive war, you tell them to go and fight it. After my experience, I have come to hate war."

― Dwight D. Eisenhower



"Preventive war is like committing suicide out of fear of death."

Otto von Bismarck


"There is no more dangerous thing for a democracy than a foreign policy based on presidential preventive war."

Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr.

"Preventive war is a crime not easily committed by a country that retains any traces of democracy."

George Orwell

[maryellen99]

7. People are naive to think Kelly,McMaster,and Mattis are going to disobey launch orders nt

[Cold War Spook]

9. China and North Korea

Will someone get it through Trump's head that China and North Korea have a treaty to aid one another militarily? If we attack North Korea without China's approval, say goodbye to South Korea. Any further actions on our part and say hello to WWIII. At least we won't have to worry about a draft.

[yodermon]

10. My in-laws are in Seoul. not to mention 10s of thousands of Americans.

If Trump brings harm to them I'll hold him personally responsible.