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WinstonSmith4740

(3,048 posts)
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 10:20 PM Aug 2017

OK, so I'm sitting here watching Lawrence O'Donnell.

He's showing a clip from 1999 when Trump was on Meet the Press. Tim Russert is asking him about a pre-emptive strike on N. Korea. Trump, of course, advocated striking first. My question here is, who the hell was he in 1999 to be on Meet the Press being asked questions like this??? Why the hell should anyone give a damn what he thought? Was the press trying to groom him?

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OK, so I'm sitting here watching Lawrence O'Donnell. (Original Post) WinstonSmith4740 Aug 2017 OP
just showing bdamomma Aug 2017 #1
Funny. NanceGreggs Aug 2017 #2
Wasn't he running for President? malaise Aug 2017 #3
He had a book coming out in 2000 "The America we Deserve" underpants Aug 2017 #10
Lol Proud liberal 80 Aug 2017 #4
He was considering running although it was mostly pr to get attentio JI7 Aug 2017 #5
And he's not learned a thing since then as he's terminally ignorant, however... benfranklin1776 Aug 2017 #6
Hey, Ben! MyOwnPeace Aug 2017 #9
Hey backatcha! benfranklin1776 Aug 2017 #19
"Why the hell should anyone give a damn what he thought?" rusty quoin Aug 2017 #7
The networks gave him a lot of free airtime in the past. Sneederbunk Aug 2017 #8
not to mention the 2 billion dollars in free airtime during the last election spanone Aug 2017 #11
He ran in the Reform Party csziggy Aug 2017 #12
And people wonder why Russia targeted him Phoenix61 Aug 2017 #13
Because Tim Russert was no liberal and no good LisaM Aug 2017 #14
Check out the documentary "Get Me Roger Stone"...the vile GOP Right has been grooming Trump... blitzen Aug 2017 #15
Thanks for the lead. WinstonSmith4740 Aug 2017 #17
Yeah, it's hard to watch without smashing the TV... blitzen Aug 2017 #18
It demonstrates that he has always been this scary and we were warned. liberal N proud Aug 2017 #16

bdamomma

(63,658 posts)
1. just showing
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 10:24 PM
Aug 2017

how stupid he was then and continues to be. Fucking stupid man. Its all about him and who can puff out their chest or stomachs in their cases.

underpants

(182,280 posts)
10. He had a book coming out in 2000 "The America we Deserve"
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 10:38 PM
Aug 2017

In looking for this - holy cow he has a book almost every other year.

benfranklin1776

(6,427 posts)
6. And he's not learned a thing since then as he's terminally ignorant, however...
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 10:28 PM
Aug 2017

...the scarier thing is David Cay Johnston having to remind the military that they have no duty to follow an illegal order. Things have deteriorated so badly it has come to this.

MyOwnPeace

(16,888 posts)
9. Hey, Ben!
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 10:35 PM
Aug 2017

Saw your "post-name" and pic - can you imagine what that marvelous, brilliant statesman would have thought about our having placed Orange-Cheato in the Oval Office?
He probably would have taken one more boat ride to Paris to stay!

benfranklin1776

(6,427 posts)
19. Hey backatcha!
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 09:18 AM
Aug 2017

I think he and the other founders who are children of the enlightenment would have been overcome with revulsion as Agent Orange is the antithesis of reason. He is the personification of the howling mob they feared as they understood from living under King George that ignorance and avarice melded with great power can lead to horrific results for civilization. I think,though, Ben worried whether our democracy would survive against the countervailing forces of popular passions incited by low and venal men who turn those passiona against the very institutions that they built to ensure we could use peaceful means to effectuate needed changes in the affairs of governance for tge advancement of the public good, a concept he was greatly motivated in his life to put into practice. Hence his comment to the woman in the crowd outside the constitutional convention in Philadelphia who asked him "what form of government is it?" And he responded:"it's a republic madam if you can keep it." So it's incumbent on us to "keep it" and use every available tool of democratic governance to drive this nightmare of a small minded, small handed would be despot from the position he used treasonous means to attain. Hence, not voting or surrendering to cynicism or defeatism i.e. "we can't do it" is simply not an option. In 2018 we CAN retake congress and use the legislative branch to stop his nascent despotism in its tracks. That task is every bit as vital to the survival of our country and the principles of enlightenment democracy as the original seemingly impossible task begun 241 years ago. The sacrifices of unheralded millions over that timespan for this great cause of humanity must be honored by us now In this perilous time.

Sneederbunk

(14,208 posts)
8. The networks gave him a lot of free airtime in the past.
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 10:32 PM
Aug 2017

They considered him rich and famous. We did not realize he was certifiable until his birther stunting.

csziggy

(34,120 posts)
12. He ran in the Reform Party
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 10:40 PM
Aug 2017
Reform Party candidates
Pat Buchanan from Virginia, former speechwriter and senior advisor to President Richard Nixon
John Hagelin from Iowa, Ph.D., past and then-current Natural Law Party candidate
Donald Trump from New York, had left the Republican Party in 1999[13][14] due to conflicting ideas on key issues
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2000#Reform_Party_nomination


Trump officially joins Reform Party

October 25, 1999
Web posted at: 3:36 p.m. EDT (1936 GMT)

NEW YORK (CNN) -- Real estate developer Donald Trump officially changed his party affiliation on Monday to the Independence Party, New York's version of the Reform Party.

Trump had his voter registration form hand-delivered to the New York County Board of Elections on Monday, officially putting him in the New York branch of the Reform Party, according to his political adviser Roger Stone.

Stone told CNN that Trump will soon begin travelling to Miami, Los Angeles and other cities to meet with Reform Party leaders to assess the prospects of winning the party's presidential nomination.

Trump has not yet formally declared he would seek the Reform Party nomination, but he announced Sunday he was quitting the Republican Party, a key step in a possible bid for the Reform Party nomination for the 2000 presidential race.

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/10/25/trump.cnn/index.html

LisaM

(27,762 posts)
14. Because Tim Russert was no liberal and no good
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 10:59 PM
Aug 2017

in that job. He pulled crap like that all the time and people treated him like some mighty guru. He was basically a starf**cker, excuse my French.

blitzen

(4,572 posts)
15. Check out the documentary "Get Me Roger Stone"...the vile GOP Right has been grooming Trump...
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 11:15 PM
Aug 2017

for decades.

Stone and Manafort literally invented the PAC and lobbying in its current corrupt form. In true Trumpian doublespeak, those who coined the "drain the swamp" bullshit were the ones who first built the swamp and were its most dangerous creatures. Contrary to the prevailing media narrative, Trump is a product of the most consequential and harmful of the post-Reagan GOP insiders. Not to mention that Stone and Trump were the hellish brood of mob lawyer Roy Cohn, Joseph McCarthy's right-hand man and one of the most evil figures in American history. They both follow Cohn's playbook to the letter. No doubt Stone, Manafort, and Trump, back in the early 90s, had already envisioned an eventual Trump run for the presidency. So it's no surprise that he was talking stuff such as N. Korea and nukes back in 1999.

The documentary is on Netflix.

blitzen

(4,572 posts)
18. Yeah, it's hard to watch without smashing the TV...
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 11:34 PM
Aug 2017

but it explains a lot about how we got to this place. A big part of the multifaceted GOP scheming that has given us a government that can be controlled by a minority of the electorate.

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