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Who wrote the "Met with Fire and Fury" line (Original Post) edhopper Aug 2017 OP
I'm going with Bannon...n/t monmouth4 Aug 2017 #1
I'm betting it's Miller. hedda_foil Aug 2017 #24
Watch the video of his statement yesterday. His eyes kept returning downward, no_hypocrisy Aug 2017 #2
Yep edhopper Aug 2017 #3
I noticed that too. He was reading the words which means someone wrote shraby Aug 2017 #16
He kinda stumbled the 2nd time he used the phrase dixiegrrrrl Aug 2017 #17
I don't know, but I can't wait for the sequel 2 Fiery 2 Furious. Initech Aug 2017 #4
ROFL edhopper Aug 2017 #15
LOL leftstreet Aug 2017 #26
Smells like Bannon's crap lunasun Aug 2017 #5
Someone who was watching Game of Thrones n/t Yavin4 Aug 2017 #6
Sounds like a line from a bad novel WhiteTara Aug 2017 #7
No! Stephen Miller! longship Aug 2017 #8
Sounds like Miller. SweetieD Aug 2017 #9
Perhaps Stephen Miller Siwsan Aug 2017 #10
barron...in crayon. samnsara Aug 2017 #11
Quentin Tarantino, of course. Buns_of_Fire Aug 2017 #12
Wow Buns saidsimplesimon Aug 2017 #28
It sounds biblical....Pence ? OnDoutside Aug 2017 #13
I'm guessing Miller. bluepen Aug 2017 #14
Game of Thrones Johnny2X2X Aug 2017 #18
I think GoT edhopper Aug 2017 #19
Miller writes all of his speeches. And he could definitely be a GoT fan. I am too and I noticed the anneboleyn Aug 2017 #38
Daneyrs Targaryean. nt Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2017 #20
Dracarys! MrsCoffee Aug 2017 #25
Truman after bomb dropped on japan dembotoz Aug 2017 #21
going with Bannon on this one bdamomma Aug 2017 #22
If It was in Trump's own words... Atman Aug 2017 #23
Faulkner, Shakespeare......... Nope that was "sound and fury". Game of Thrones? still_one Aug 2017 #27
It's from the NYT cyclonefence Aug 2017 #29
Gorka... maryellen99 Aug 2017 #30
Wasn't that a Judas Priest album? johnp3907 Aug 2017 #31
I was thinking a WWE writer gratuitous Aug 2017 #32
It was not just the phrasing that was odd spinbaby Aug 2017 #33
I believe them. I think he went off-script leftstreet Aug 2017 #34
The Wonkette blog pointed out the Tom Waits' lyrics to The Wire's theme song muriel_volestrangler Aug 2017 #35
Obviously Stephen Miller, and clearly inspired by Game of Thrones, which uses "Fire & Blood" anneboleyn Aug 2017 #36
He has so many "tells" for when he's reading and when he goes off-script bellmartin Aug 2017 #37
Is it coincidence it's the Nagasaki anniversary? lostnfound Aug 2017 #39
They are trying so hard to day edhopper Aug 2017 #40

shraby

(21,946 posts)
16. I noticed that too. He was reading the words which means someone wrote
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 09:53 AM
Aug 2017

them for him so he could get it right.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
17. He kinda stumbled the 2nd time he used the phrase
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 09:54 AM
Aug 2017

and that's when he glanced down to check the words.

Miller writes a lot of stuff for him, Bannon/gorka push for the "blow everybody up all the time"
tuff testosterone ideas.

Initech

(100,063 posts)
4. I don't know, but I can't wait for the sequel 2 Fiery 2 Furious.
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 09:26 AM
Aug 2017

And then the third installment - The Fiery And The Furious: Tokyo Drift.

longship

(40,416 posts)
8. No! Stephen Miller!
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 09:31 AM
Aug 2017

That guy! Quint talked about him in Jaws.

He's got lifeless eyes, black eyes, like a doll's eyes.

Quint was talking precisely about the type of person that is Stephen Miller.



"But we delivered the bomb." Who knows where that will lead?

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
28. Wow Buns
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 11:27 AM
Aug 2017

Samuel Jackson delivers "righteous retribution". Who knew Tarantino was this brilliant? (big grin here)

Johnny2X2X

(19,038 posts)
18. Game of Thrones
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 09:55 AM
Aug 2017

He watched Game of Thrones, Drogon laid waste to the Lanister Army with Fire and Fury.

Honestly, this is 99% likely where he got it from.

edhopper

(33,570 posts)
19. I think GoT
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 09:59 AM
Aug 2017

is too complicated for him to watch.

And he doesn't have the language skills for this type of phrase.

Maybe whoever wrote it watches GoT.

anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
38. Miller writes all of his speeches. And he could definitely be a GoT fan. I am too and I noticed the
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 01:14 PM
Aug 2017

line immediately - it is "Fire and Blood" in .GoT as it relates to one character and her dragons. In the middle of Trump's speech is sounded totally bizarre - "fire" and "fury" - wth does that even mean?! WTH is Trump claiming that he's going to do?

bdamomma

(63,836 posts)
22. going with Bannon on this one
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 10:08 AM
Aug 2017

he is all for deteriorating the country from within to reach his sick goals.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
23. If It was in Trump's own words...
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 10:30 AM
Aug 2017

...it would have been more like;

"Crooked Hillary would have done nothing to keep us safe, I can tell you that. If Fat Kimmy thinks he can do rockets, we'll show him whose the most tremendous power, a super power. A furious power. We'll say, 'missiles, you're fired!' It will be the greatest thing the world has ever seen, except my huuuge electoral college win over Crooked Hillary. I can tell you that."

still_one

(92,136 posts)
27. Faulkner, Shakespeare......... Nope that was "sound and fury". Game of Thrones?
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 11:26 AM
Aug 2017

because Fire and Blood was already taken by Daenerys Targaryen

or

Skillet "Fire and Fury"







cyclonefence

(4,483 posts)
29. It's from the NYT
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 11:29 AM
Aug 2017

writing about the tomahawk missiles:

. Nothing drowns out scandal like the fire and fury of 59 Tomahawk cruise missiles.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/07/opinion/the-riddle-of-trumps-syria-attack.html?_r=0

When he repeated the line but added "power," he prefaced his addition with "frankly," which is a verbal tell that he is straying from the printed message.

maryellen99

(3,788 posts)
30. Gorka...
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 11:29 AM
Aug 2017

He was on Fox this morning and called us a "hyper power". NOBODY is going to stop Trump from using nukes.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
32. I was thinking a WWE writer
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 11:39 AM
Aug 2017

It sure sounds like pro rasslin' and the bombast that precedes the next spectacle like Wrestlemania. If Trump says "The time for talkin' is done," we'll know pretty much for sure.

leftstreet

(36,106 posts)
34. I believe them. I think he went off-script
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 12:26 PM
Aug 2017

It would also explain the bully's defensive gesture of arm folding, body hugging

"I know I'm not supposed to say this, but I'm gonna!"

muriel_volestrangler

(101,306 posts)
35. The Wonkette blog pointed out the Tom Waits' lyrics to The Wire's theme song
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 12:39 PM
Aug 2017

you gotta keep the devil
way down in the hole
he's got the fire and the fury
at his command

http://www.tomwaits.com/songs/song/194/Way_Down_In_The_Hole/

anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
36. Obviously Stephen Miller, and clearly inspired by Game of Thrones, which uses "Fire & Blood"
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 01:08 PM
Aug 2017

all the time as it is associated with the character of Daenerys Targaryen and her dragons. I am quote sure that Miller would be interested in the show, and unlike what some are thinking here, Trump DEFINITELY did not think that himself or write it. There is no way in hell Trump writes his speeches. For a bit they pushed that narrative but dropped it later as it was so obviously not the case. That fact was obvious by the way he read it -- he clearly had never read the statement before as he kept stumbling and stuttering and staring at the words as usual.

Miller writes the majority of Trump's speeches. They all are in fact very similar to each other, reusing the same phrases and images over and over. It becomes easy to hear the patterns. Miller uses very simple prose (no sentences with multiple clauses that might confuse Trump's followers and his "message" and simplistic bible/Armageddon/fantasy images that appeal to certain elements that vote for Trump)

bellmartin

(218 posts)
37. He has so many "tells" for when he's reading and when he goes off-script
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 01:10 PM
Aug 2017

Off-script is always wordier and more repetitive, adding his simple words and mangled syntax. He was definitely reading it the first time through, then felt it wasn't enough and once again stepped on and garbled his own message by repeating it, and as typical couldn't manage to repeat it verbatim.

He may not have told everyone on his staff, but yes, someone wrote it for him. While it was a horrific thing to say, it was clearly too lyrical for him to come up with. It does seem likely that that person cribbed if from GoT or NYT.

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