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better

(884 posts)
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 12:05 PM Aug 2017

FBI searches Manafort's home

So apparently the FBI executed a "no-knock" warrant on one of Manafort's residences on July 26th.
Makes me wonder how we should be re-evaluating everything coming out of the White House since then in light of this new information.

Thoughts?
Anyone know more about this?

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/09/politics/paul-manafort-search-fbi-russian-interference/index.html

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better

(884 posts)
4. Yeah the Fake News must have dropped the ball on that one!
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 12:15 PM
Aug 2017

And it is also interesting in light of Manafort's spokesperson's assertion that he has consistently cooperated with investigators that the FBI felt the need to execute a no-knock warrant. Would seem to call into question the thoroughness of his cooperation.

 

Fluke a Snooker

(404 posts)
6. Thoughts? OK.
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 12:24 PM
Aug 2017

Trump needs to be thrown in prison. Stat. Capital charges, treason.
Same with Pence, Ryan, McConnell.
Same with at least 50% of all Republicans in Congress.

Yes, all capital punishment-level crimes. Let's get the justice thing going.

Those are my thoughts.

better

(884 posts)
11. Would that it be so
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 12:44 PM
Aug 2017

but as much as I would like to see the guilty parties swing, I don't think there's a case to be made for treason, though in researching that, I did learn that the bar for what constitutes and armed conflict (and by extension a party rendered aid as an "enemy", as is required to find treason) is way lower than one might expect.

Somewhat obviously there are the elements of one party in the conflict being a State, the conflict being over an incompatibility over territory or political rule, and the use of arms (which is not limited to conventional weapons of war). It is also noteworthy that such a conflict need not have been legally declared.

But what surprised me is that the standard is merely "resulting in 25 or more deaths".

So while it may be a stretch to allege treason on the basis of events taking place during the campaign/transition, it's interesting to note just how easily and quickly the conditions under which the type of aid to the enemy at issue could come to qualify as treason. I can very easily see a skirmish in Syria crossing that threshold.

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
8. This suggests Manafort isn't cooperating if they needed to conduct a raid
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 12:29 PM
Aug 2017

I'd also say that they probably found zip.

Everything incriminating is long gone

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
13. There's always cash or a electronic trail to the cash... somewhere.
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 12:48 PM
Aug 2017

This means they were certain he didn't turn over stuff or lied to them. That's why they issue warrants, probable cause.

kentuck

(111,051 posts)
10. Trump stopped criticizing Sessions and McMaster...
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 12:36 PM
Aug 2017

Actually began to praise their actions? Why?

His lawyers are pledging cooperation with the Special Counsel. His lawyers meet with Mueller. Why?

It seems there are things going on that they don't know and it bothers the hell out of them.

Old Vet

(2,001 posts)
14. Hmmmm, Its getting real now BECAUSE.....
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 12:53 PM
Aug 2017

In order to get such a warrant the FBI must of had a hell of a case that a crime has/was committed. And a judge must of agreed.

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