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Two words: Nagasaki, Hiroshima
Dumbass!
BamaRefugee
(3,483 posts)ProfessorGAC
(64,971 posts)Particularly galling since August 6th and 9th just passed. What an idiotic thing to say.
GreenPartyVoter
(72,377 posts)vastly eclipse those detonations. Just how I took it.
Ms. Toad
(34,057 posts)Vinca
(50,254 posts)Not Ruth
(3,613 posts)Pretty damn racist
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)Imperial Japan had enslaved and mudered (in a brutsl manner) millions of people in their conquests in Souteast Asia in the 30"s leading up to and during WWII. As many as 300,000 people were killed during the "Rape of Nanking" in 1938. 10's of thousands of women and children were reportedly raped
They enslaved and worked to death and or starved millions during that period
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Over 40% of our POW'S that were held by Japan died or were killed in captivity. Among the atrocities that were prosecuted was one of their doctors practicing vivesection on pow's where they systematically amputed limbs to "see how long the torso could live".
There was the Bataan Death March..
Japan attacked us at Pearl Harbor and we had lost a half a million men between both theaters of the war at this point.
I beleive about 110,00 people died when those atomic bombs were dropped. Horrific of course, but small relative to the attrocities that had been commited.
Japan would not surrender and it was estimated that millions would be killed in an invasion of Japan.
In this case NK is picking the fight. Lets hope that the world can contain the situation and that calmer heads prevail.
Marengo
(3,477 posts)Weapons in Japan?
Not Ruth
(3,613 posts)Weingartner argues that there is a common cause between the mutilation of Japanese war dead and the decision to bomb Hiroshima and Nagasaki. According to Weingartner both were partially the result of a dehumanization of the enemy, saying, "[T]he widespread image of the Japanese as sub-human constituted an emotional context which provided another justification for decisions which resulted in the death of hundreds of thousands." On the second day after the Nagasaki bomb, Truman stated: "The only language they seem to understand is the one we have been using to bombard them. When you have to deal with a beast you have to treat him like a beast. It is most regrettable but nevertheless true".
Marengo
(3,477 posts)Of Imperial Japan in the territories it conquered, I'm not seeing an concrete, stated evidence that racism was a deciding factor.
FM123
(10,053 posts)Trumpy thinks the world began the day he took office....
HopeAgain
(4,407 posts)The likes of which this world has never seen.
Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)Those two weapons were 16kt and 21kt respectively.
Most of our ICBM forces have a yield of 300-475kt. We have gravity bombs where the yield can be "dialed" from about .5kt to 300kt and lager ones with yield up to 1.2mt, but there is tremendous risk in use of a gravity bomb. Most cruise missle warheads are variable from
5kt-200kt. Most of our submarine launches middles are around 100kt.
It is quite likely that any response would be orders of magnitude larger in yield than Hiroshima.
Especially if it is targeted at any kind of underground weapons or command facilities.
I would expect a current nuclear strike against a hardened target in North Korea to probably use a weapon anywhere from 10-20x more power than the Hiroshima blast.
Calista241
(5,586 posts)Would bear no comparison to the two weapons dropped in WW2.
It's like comparing a Delta IV heavy rocket that NASA launches to a rocket your 10 year old sets off in your backyard.
ProfessorGAC
(64,971 posts)A larger area would get to that temperature, but we have seen this before. The difference isn't in effect, only volume.