This is fucking insane!

[cynatnite]

That fucking orange asshole wants to take us to the brink and maybe even send the world right over it.

I'm pretty damn uneasy, but more than that...I'm fucking angry as hell at this asshole who can't seem to shut his goddamn mouth.

Seems like everyone is willing to step back and let things calm down except for fucking tRump!

Is there going to be a march on DC? Or are we going to sit here with our thumbs up our collective asses while tRump flirts with nuclear war?

The guy did ask three times last year about why he can't use nuclear weapons. The fucker is frothing at the mouth over the prospect.

I've said it from the beginning when tRump ran for president...he wants to watch the world burn. I truly believe that.

[Angry Dragon]

1. dropping bombs will not be good for he Trump brand

[H2O Man]

2. Recommended.

My son asked me yesterday: if Trump does start a war, which could only be out-of-control, what would we do? Food, heat, electricity, all things we take for granted, he noted.

[cynatnite]

3. This is the first time in my life I've started considering those things. n/t

[H2O Man]

6. Right.

My son noted that it is foolish to take what our society is now for granted, that it isn't that common in human history. I recognize that he is a heck of a lot smarter than me. I've lived a full life, but worry about young folks, both here and around the earth. I have family and friends from South Korea, and it pains me to think about what one idiot could inflict upon them.

[moda253]

16. Me too.

[JustAnotherGen]

4. If 100K people

Descended on Bedminster - it would get attention. If even 20K did - it would get attention. Especially on a weekday. When 287 and 206 and 78 get all gummed up.

[Not Ruth]

5. There is currently a protest in front of the WH by a Resistance group

I think that they might be called Ground Zero or something similar

[alfredo]

48. I think they are called "Ohm."

[Initech]

7. I'm still in utter shock and disbelief that they went there.

I've been in total shock since the election,, and every day seems to get worse than the one before it. But the fact that Trump actually threatened a nuclear war crossed a line that should not have been crossed. He needs to be removed now. If even one life is lost, this will be all on them. They can't trash talk their way out of this one. I'm legitimately scared right now.

[MFM008]

26. My guts killing me

Ulcer is probably coming back.

[syringis]

8. May I ask?

Can Trump really launch a nuclear bomb on his own?

I know he has the codes but, is there not a procedure involving General staff of armed forces?

[cynatnite]

9. There is a procedure, but the call is his alone. n/t

[OriginalGeek]

11. would a general

or whoever, be able to say "Ummm, no."?

[cynatnite]

13. Nope.

The commander in chief is part of the military chain of command. It would have to be considered a wrongful order for a general to refuse.

Thing is, tRump can fire him, appoint a "yes" man.

Also, there is a military officer who carries the "football" which are the nuclear codes that travels with tRump everywhere for easy access.

At the end of the day, whoever is president has the right to initiate nuclear armageddon at their whim.

[syringis]

19. Yes, but ...

...if I'm not wrong, in particular circumstances, a military officer can refuse an order.

Trump has probably a lack of credibility, if he has any left, is it imaginable to stop him in case of a foolish move?

[cynatnite]

20. They can refuse an order and be fired on the spot...

Then another gets promoted.

It's nearly like the Darth Vader method of promotion, except no telepathic stranglings.

[Blue_true]

25. Exactly. There will be officers willing to launch the missiles.

The best way to stop that was to not let Trump win office. Anything else is just street theater and is fundamentally meaningless.

[AtheistCrusader]

36. Some individuals may fail to launch.

Some always do when the system is tested.
Overall, the system will work.

[alfredo]

39. There will be a military coup before that happens.

[First Speaker]

12. Then God help us. It's equivalent to saying the Constitution is a suicide pact...

...if a madman can start a nuclear war totally on his own authority...

[cynatnite]

14. The founding fathers never envisioned such deadly technology...

If they had, using a nuke would be a hell of a lot harder.

I'm all for not allowing one person to be able to initiate nuclear war....I don't care what party controls the WH.

[TheBlackAdder]

10. Trump invisions himself a hardass, Kim Jong-un machine & AA guns people, VX's step-bro.

[onethatcares]

15. he doesn't care what we think.

he's way beyond that kind of thing. protests/shmotests, it doesn't matter to him.

sorry for being a downer but 8 months in even Ray Charles can see that.

[Duppers]

18. So correct. And...

"even Ray Charles can see that."

Had never heard that one.

[BigmanPigman]

17. I doubt it will come down to it. Wesley Clark was rational and reassuring.

NK will keep their nukes but not use them since they know we'll blow them up. So we have to negotiate and deal with it like we have been. Also, NK gets sanctions or whatever often and every time they threaten us or our allies then they negotiate. We just don't hear about it as much as now with our own idiot in chief. And they don't have the weapons yet to do it either.

This is perfect timing to get him out of office since he is so obviously crazy and very dangerous. So some good could come out of it...poll numbers ARE dropping with this BS.

[cynatnite]

22. I do keep thinking about that...

NK knows what would happen if they make a move, but with tRump in the mix, I don't think we can fully trust that.

And I most certainly hope that you're right. As much as I hate Pence, at least I don't think the man will lead us to nuclear annihilation at the drop of a hat. He's a bit more sane and I think we can get him out of office in 2020.

[BigmanPigman]

32. I think Mueller will get Pence out of office before 2020 too.

[alfredo]

42. 25 45

[SCVDem]

21. Dear NATO

Help!

We need regime change for the good of the world!

America is under attack from a domestic threat which is bigger than ISIS!

[Blue_true]

23. The time to march was on November 8, 2016.

The best way to have prevented what is happening is not let that asshole win office.

[SunSeeker]

43. But her emails!

[Blue_true]

45. Yes. And Wall Street.

I have counted out the extreme left in any party future plans. The ones that I have known personally were all messed up space cadets that could not hold a coherent thought. Why count on people like that?

[Grammy23]

24. Several things at work here. First is tRump's megalomania.

He is determined to be the biggest, baddest, or bestest at everything. He is going to try to out do anyone else who ever occupied the White House. No matter what he has to do to put himself at the top of the heap (at least in his mind) he will do it. He believes a war will force us all to bow to his wishes and will ensure that he keeps his position.

Second, he knows that things are not going well in the Russia investigation. Manafort and Flynn have probably already given up a lot of information on him or it has been discovered (even without their co-operation). As the noose tightens on his neck, he will get more and more desperate to divert and distract from the investigation. What better way than a war using nukes! He plans to be in a bunker, well hidden and what's a few million Koreans in the whole scheme of things?? (His way of thinking, NOT mine!) The Russia investigation will be the last thing on our minds if our military and North Korea are playing Red Rover, Red Rover with nuclear armed playing pieces?

tRump can only handle so much being constrained by his advisors and generals. Then he will decide he knows more than they do anyway. He is probably has had just about enough of them trying to rein him in. I say we'd better look out because for the two reasons I stated, he needs to do something to make it go his way. And this rat bastard is close to being cornered----not where he likes to be.

[GeorgeGist]

27. Jarvanka where are you?

[HopeAgain]

28. It would be a war crime for any soldier to follow his order to start an unprovoked nuclear attack...

And don't think the people in the chain of command don't know that.

[hibbing]

29. President Obama

Was also so measured and careful with everything he said. I can't think of any serious issues that he did not talk about rationally and carefully in 8 years. Now we have this awad who uses his tiny hands to send out all kinds of screwed up messages 20 times a day.

Peace

[AtheistCrusader]

34. That's intentional. They want to undo everything a Black President ever did, so yes

even our demeanor has to flip to the polar opposite.

Repealing the ACA is just a small part of the agenda. They'll stuff the whole fucking country down the memory hole if they have to, to erase the legacy of the 44th President of the United States.

[Ligyron]

30. After reading all the alarm here on DU lately I think some of you good people

need to calm yourself. Trump and Kim love that you're upset and paying attention to them.

I don't believe NK has the wherewithal yet to attack the US mainland or even Hawaii with a nuc devise of any kind unless they put it on a PT boat like a suicide bomber. We're hep to that and it won't work.

I don't believe, in the end, our military would allow a first strike on our end to happen either.

If it somehow did, I worry more about China launching at us 'cause the detonation of a nuc on the NK peninsula would seriously screw up their neighborhood with the fallout and electromagnetic pulse.

Besides, there is nothing we can do anyway unless you want to join the preppers and most of us don't think that way.

Chill, a nuclear event on the US ain't going to happen.

Really, it won't. Go make passionate love to someone and have an adult beverage unless you are allergic to that stuff. Smoke weed maybe as an alternative.

Enjoy life, don't give those two fuckers the pleasure or let them destroy your serenity.

[AtheistCrusader]

35. +1

Chill Winston.

NK isn't going anywhere.

[alfredo]

41. Sure takes our mind off the Russia investigation.

[Progressive dog]

31. The psychopath doesn't care about us,

if he thinks nuking NK will benefit him then bombs away.

[AtheistCrusader]

33. I don't really feel like marching on DGZ.

[Dopers_Greed]

37. 46.1% of the country voted for Armageddon

[Blue_Tires]

38. I'm old enough to remember when Hillary was the bloodthirsty warmonger

and Donnie was the anti-interventionist candidate...

[DrDan]

40. he thinks it is the solution for his falling poll numbers

[wiggs]

44. He loves to punch down, whether it's a painter unfortunate enough to do business with him, a

handicapped reporter, vulnerable transgender soldiers, or an impoverished country. So does the GOP.

[iluvtennis]

46. It's scary shit. Today's nuclear ICBMs are hundreds of times more powerful than Hiroshima...

...a lot of the world can indeed be destroyed in a mushroom fire. The GOP asshats need to step up to the plate now and impeach Trump. I don't like Pence's policy, but at least I wouldn't have to worry about nuclear holocaust.

[workinclasszero]

47. We tried to warn America..we tried to warn the nutcase left who wanted Trump to win

Over and over and over.

Now we and the world will pay a horrible price for letting a Russian coup install its handpicked puppet into the White House.

The traitors in the republican party want a nuclear Armageddon so they can seize control in this country and set up the Republic of Gilead with Trump as the anti-Christ leader IRL.

We tried but you know, "Trump will bring the revolution" and But Her emails.

Now I now how the world ends.

[Stuart G]

49. I agree..He just can't shut up...k and r..nt