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Nearly 3,000,000 people were killed during the first Korean War and North Korea didn't have nuclear, biological, and chemical capabilities.
Break time
(195 posts)During the "Korean conflict" it was never declared a war it was called a "police action" A lot of the older guys around me went some never came back. But calling it "Korean" simplifies it a lot we were in fact fighting China, they had pilots in it, they had a lot of regular army there and they supplied Korea with aircraft and ammunition and a lot of the basics that were required...If this breaks down into a conflict it wil be the same thing all over again... us against China's surrogate.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Break time
(195 posts)That is what the history books say and they are always right..Most of th earmed forces serving there were from the USA
Estimated strength of the North Korean army in 1950: 135,000 men
Estimated strength of the South Korean army in 1950: 95,000 men12
Number of Americans killed in the Korean War: 36,000
Number of Americans wounded in the Korean War: 105,000
Number of South Koreans killed in the Korean War: 415,000
Number of South Koreans wounded in the Korean War: 429,000
Estimated number of Chinese and North Koreans killed in the Korean War: 1,500,00013
Number of non-American troops from other UN member states sent to aid South Korea: about 40,000
Number of British Commonwealth troops sent to aid South Korea: about 20,000
Number of American troops sent to aid South Korea: 5,720,000
Stuart G
(38,419 posts)You must know, some that fought that war..are still alive...and..if any are near or in positions of power in N. Korea...they must be urging and pleading...NO WAR
While you and I don't know, they know, those survivors of that awful war...and they are against it..
how do I know?.......you figure it out....
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)The median total estimated Korean civilian deaths in the Korean War is 2,730,000. Wow, if you add military casualties it's near 5,000,000.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualty_ratio
Stuart G
(38,419 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)I learned anything I know about NK from reading.
Break time
(195 posts)6 weeks before Pearl Harbor, i do have vague memories of WW2, I lost my father in it.Pretty strong memories of Korea and some very very personal memories of Vietnam...War of any shape or form is never nice in any way
Stuart G
(38,419 posts)Perhaps some important minds in power, are thinking about this tonight..
3,000,000 dead..........!!!!!
Stuart G
(38,419 posts)the number of soldiers killed in the Korean War..If you count total deaths...then...5,000,000 deaths
.....5,000,000 - 1,264,000 equals about 3,720,000 more deaths in Korean War than all the soldiers that died in all our wars..
Total Population of North and South Korea....together..approx..................30,000,000
Total Number of deaths from war .....................................................................5,000,000
Percent of deaths for entire country .....................................................5 x 6 ..30,000,000
...........................................................................................................or .......16.6 % of
...................................................................................................total population...killed. or
approximately one in 6 of the total population of North and South Korea were killed in the Korean War...some were American, some were Chinese...Most were Korean .
moriah
(8,311 posts).... is very fascinating, but what's also fascinating is how their propaganda machine actually can sound justified given said history, with the right modifications.
Japan became their occupiers/colonial overkords over 100 years ago. Then after WWII the US and the USSR partitioned them off and used each side against the other, their land and lives for outsider's proxy wars. They felt no loyalty to the USSR, and little to China, and propagand co-opting Japanese superiority ideas for the "entire Korean people" over China, then excluding the Japanese as being Koreans, was part of the Revolution in the North. The South Koreans weren't as "pure", they let themselves get corrupted by the US and Japan both.
But instead of "purity" being tied with power and a desire to conquer like Nazi Germany, or "selflessness/equality of all men" like the USSR and China, virtue and "purity" for Koreans in their propaganda during the Revolution was from victimhood and martyrdom -- powerlessness. Childlike innocence, and childlike need for a strong parent (the military) to protect them from the outside world.
They'll gladly accept help from the people that hurt them, but it incurs no obligation because it's never done with pure motives. Still, without that help, they'll make do, even if they starve. It's noble sacrifice for the "military first" attitude so necessary because the world is out to get them. And they're used to it, because the first Kim decided it was easier to control people when you didn't give them an overabundance of food.
But to keep a state in constant war, people need victories and to fear the outsiders. Films showed Korean babies getting "injected with gerns" to kill them, propaganda against vaccination. Sick people are easier to control than healthy people, too. There's the balance of fear of the enemy and confidence that the military really is worth all this sacrifice that must be made for them to remain in current equilibrium.
I hope this is just another way to get back the aid taken in sanctions and use it internally as "Our mighty military protected you again, forcing the devil to capitulate and stop trying to starve you, my children", and not Un deciding that to really prove the value of both himself as successor to his father and grandfather and the "military first" strategy he must actually give Korea a proven aggressive victory in the modern age. His predecessors could invent their "victories", but he can only invent so much now.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)I'm not familiar with a second one.