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Fri Aug 11, 2017, 05:51 AM

Trump just a symptom. RW Media is the cause of our political misery.

There was the genesis of right wing radio primarily with Rush, then Savage and Levine, and now Alex Jones. More and more vile. And, the total takeover of the radio networks and the AM band.
The Telcom Act of 1996 loosening the ownership rules that made more huge companies and the loss of local oriented radio and tv stations.

And, sitting back watching it all happen was Roger Ailes.
And, with the Backing of Rupert Murdochs money, the creation of the greatest right wing propaganda media outlet that this country has ever seen.
The holy grail.
Fox News.
Using the very cleverly tested and marketed slogan of "fair and balanced".
Using very attractive (primarily blonde) female anchors who were required to wear short skirts or dresses. And, the camera people and directors told to take a lot of low angle wide shots to show off those slim beautiful legs.
Completely blurring the once mandatory journalistic lines of what is straight reporting and what is opinion/editorial comment.
Completely going from information to entertainment and creating the new genre of infotainment that they soon found had a great and very PROFITABLE niche.

But, surely, this wouldn't last.
Surely REAL journalists would speak out against this vehicle of propaganda for what it was.
Surely no REAL journalists would work there.
Surely our politicians (even the sane moderate republicans) would join ALL Democrats and boycott them by never appearing on Fox and never issuing them media credentials because THEY WERE NOT MEDIA.
Well, don't call us Shirley because it all happened.
And, not only that.
Even worse, many other media outlets tried to copy much of what Fox was doing trying to emulate their success to gain better profits.
Because news was no longer what it once was for the broadcast networks.
Remember when news was considered a necessary public service that the networks must provide to be given our air space. Remember when news divisions were separate from entertainment divisions and it was ok if the news divisions lost money.
Fox News changed that forever.
And, nothing can kill them.
Yes, their ratings are a little down niw with all of the sexual harassment stuff forcing out Ailes and O'Reilly and others.
But, it doesn't matter now.
What Fox News does is now accepted and expected (even craved) by a huge portion of the public.
Sure, their audience is getting older.
But, they or another incarnation dreamed up by the Koch, Mercers or others will adapt and follow with new technologies and new ways to shape younger and future generations minds.

Did some of us try to stop it?
Yes, we called it Faux or Fixed news.
Had bumper stickers.
Tried to tell friends and family not to watch.
But, too many did and still do watch.
They are addicted to this type of non thinking authoritative media that feeds them a particular point of view with the truth abandoned and the facts not very important or even important at all.

America let this happen.
The Republicans thought this was what they wanted to offset their perceived mainstream media leftist bias. So, what if Fox was a little loose with the truth. It meant winning.
It meant a set of completely loyal voters.
And, it meant the end of America having a real free and honest press that we so need and sorely miss. It's happened right in front of us. Before our very eyes.
And, we thought it couldn't happen here.
And, we thought nobody like Trump could be elected.

To quote the ending of Planet of the Apes... Damn you, damn you all to hell.


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Reply Trump just a symptom. RW Media is the cause of our political misery. (Original post)
Funtatlaguy Aug 2017 OP
njhoneybadger Aug 2017 #1
Cosmocat Aug 2017 #19
Raster Aug 2017 #2
Bluepinky Aug 2017 #3
InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2017 #53
dembotoz Aug 2017 #4
HopeAgain Aug 2017 #7
dembotoz Aug 2017 #17
Cosmocat Aug 2017 #21
dembotoz Aug 2017 #40
Cosmocat Aug 2017 #43
dembotoz Aug 2017 #44
InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2017 #54
Cosmocat Aug 2017 #57
certainot Aug 2017 #42
diva77 Aug 2017 #47
gordianot Aug 2017 #5
Dustlawyer Aug 2017 #6
Funtatlaguy Aug 2017 #10
Cosmocat Aug 2017 #22
alp227 Aug 2017 #34
Funtatlaguy Aug 2017 #39
The Wizard Aug 2017 #8
Funtatlaguy Aug 2017 #11
The Wizard Aug 2017 #14
kerry-is-my-prez Aug 2017 #50
The Wizard Aug 2017 #9
Funtatlaguy Aug 2017 #12
The Wizard Aug 2017 #13
Fresh_Start Aug 2017 #15
Auntie Bush Aug 2017 #52
genxlib Aug 2017 #16
Cosmocat Aug 2017 #24
Cosmocat Aug 2017 #18
Borchkins Aug 2017 #20
ewagner Aug 2017 #23
TryLogic Aug 2017 #31
Funtatlaguy Aug 2017 #58
ewagner Aug 2017 #59
Funtatlaguy Aug 2017 #60
ewagner Aug 2017 #61
Funtatlaguy Aug 2017 #62
Nitram Aug 2017 #25
Funtatlaguy Aug 2017 #27
Nitram Aug 2017 #30
InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2017 #55
YCHDT Aug 2017 #48
Towlie Aug 2017 #26
Funtatlaguy Aug 2017 #29
colsohlibgal Aug 2017 #28
TryLogic Aug 2017 #33
muntrv Aug 2017 #32
iamateacher Aug 2017 #35
Blaukraut Aug 2017 #51
Amimnoch Aug 2017 #36
dlk Aug 2017 #37
classykaren Aug 2017 #38
alarimer Aug 2017 #41
Dark n Stormy Knight Aug 2017 #46
YCHDT Aug 2017 #49
uponit7771 Aug 2017 #45
workinclasszero Aug 2017 #56

Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 06:04 AM

1. It's a war for the minds of America

and the rethugs are winning.

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Response to njhoneybadger (Reply #1)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 07:53 AM

19. The rethugs are the only ones playing the game

WE care, but the elected Ds are too scared of their own shadows, and generally liberals are bringing plastic sporks to a knife fight. Too gentile, too worried about what is right (in the sense of fighting fair).

They hate us, the hate frame us over absolutely bullshit.

No reason to be scared of what they think.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 06:10 AM

2. Roger Ailes was a scumbag. I truly do hope his death was painful. If there is a hell...

...I sincerely hope he is roasting in misery for all eternity. Ailes wasn't a loyal conservative thought leader. He was an opportunistic pig, motivated by power and greed. Ailes truly was this generation's, Goebbels. And let us not forget Rupert fucking Murdoch that financially enabled this political shitshow... again, for power and greed, that has stained the discourse in this country for decades to come.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 06:16 AM

3. Fox News allows dumb people to feel smart and informed.

No thinking or analysis required with Fox, just turn on the tv to be spoon-fed your daily talking points. Even a moron can understand the complexities of our world when the response to everything is "But what about Clinton's e-mails"? or "That's Obama's fault".

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Response to Bluepinky (Reply #3)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 11:37 PM

53. Pretty much sums it up... have a dumb-ass neighbor who basically responds that way.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 06:25 AM

4. and we did not support lefty competition and still don't

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Response to dembotoz (Reply #4)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 06:53 AM

7. Because our minds work differently

Hannity, Limbaugh, O'Reilly don't educate or stimulate the mind. They play into prejudices and fears that, in frightened, bigoted people, need constant reinforcement. I get bored with propaganda, even from the left.

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Response to HopeAgain (Reply #7)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 07:49 AM

17. then the war is lost if we do not even choice to compete

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Response to dembotoz (Reply #17)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 07:54 AM

21. YEP

agreed ...

It isn't just about their 1/3 and our 1/3.

The "middle" 1/3 who don't pay attention just go by who screams the loudest, there HAS to be something to it, they feel so strongly about it.

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Response to Cosmocat (Reply #21)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 08:58 AM

40. and our silence says it all...we can be superior all the way to continual defeat

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Response to dembotoz (Reply #40)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 09:16 AM

43. That is the most mind boggling part

We ARE right the overwhelming majority of the time.

But, our public figures and leaders run into a corner and hide when the endless droves of right wing shills come out with the knives.

HFH is it to defend the high ground?



They let BHO wither in the wind for 8 years, just an endless storm of complete bullshit thrown at him. In that way, they enabled the disconnect that allowed 45 to happen - they hate framed a capable, tough, thoughtful POTUS who did a darn good job, completely unopposed for 8 years.

No pushback as all, which helped to create this bizarre hellscape that 1/3 of the country made his term out to be, with the "middle" 1/3 thinking if they think it is that bad, something must be wrong.

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Response to Cosmocat (Reply #43)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 09:36 AM

44. that is why we fight

we have been tricked to make it seem like we are the lonely voice in the wilderness

and we still do not promote lefty voices that are there

do we have a deathwish?

or are we just that damn stupid

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Response to Cosmocat (Reply #43)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 11:40 PM

54. Bernie doesn't run and hide... he's still out there fighting the good fight.

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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #54)

Sat Aug 12, 2017, 06:12 AM

57. That's a big part of why I voted for him

nm

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Response to dembotoz (Reply #4)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 09:16 AM

42. fox couldn't do shit without talk radio, and it's way past competition

it is not possible for liberals/democrats to ignore talk radio and have a democracy and that should be clear now. after reagan killed the the fairness doctrine they put the same few hundred assholes on every corner and stump in the country to scream all day that liberals are whores thieves and traitors and the left did nothing for 30 years.

and the talk radio monopoly is not something to compete with - it's wall mart vs mom and pop. - that's a rw talking point based on the crap about it being a representation of market demand, that americans favor lies hate and bullshit over truth and common sense and fairness and democracy by a 20 - 1 ratio. and then there's the fact clearchannel /iheart is 20 $BIL in debt - market demand, and balance the budget, my ass....

fox, like the tel com act, is a symptom of talk radio, started 9 years after reagan killed the fairness doctrine in 87 and the cons had 9 years and 1000 radio stations to scream all day about 'liberal' media, money is free speech, deregulation will lower cable costs, etc. and getting a lot of assholes elected because of the same unchallenged repetition about single payer is communism, global warming is nothing, environmentalists are destroying capitalism, tort reform will free the people, etc.

the basic solution is to recognize the problem. talk radio is the only major medium with no free easy challenge from the other side of the spectrum. it needs recognition for being the main producer of the alternate reality millions live in, for making bush, palin, and trump 'acceptable' enough that they could even get close to the white house. it needs to be reduced to its true market demand so the only advertisers it has are hard core trump supporters who will lose customers for their principles.

here are a few things people can do:

to start, dems and media and political scientists need to be encouraged to poll trump support for talk radio so they can't keep ignoring it. too much analysis ignores the fact that this is actually the talk radio president and most of putin’s trolling piggybacked it. i’ll bet it shows the closest association outside of ‘white’

thank all local businesses that advertise on RW radio stations —  thank them for trump, trumpcare, global warming, privatization of public education, voter suppression, deregulation, tax breaks for billionaires, etc. it’s easy and fun to listen to a few minutes here and there and get a few  email addresses for thank-you notes that can get to the boss/owners.

protest it —   include the radio stations in any progressive protests —  they may  be better places to protest than capitols —  republicans will notice and freak out. advertisers will flee.

and to combine a few of those, push the 88 universities that endorse 257 limbaugh stations to stop crapping on their mission statements and start  looking for apolitical alternatives to broadcast sports on —  maybe their political science faculties and students can start studying the most dominant political factor in the US the last 30 years. people need to wonder why the unis should drop rw radio. it will start a discussion, gop will freak out, media will notice, and advertisers will flee all

monitor it —  should be easier now to automate recording and transcribing the main rw talkers so people can search and study the patterns and repetition. if all of a sudden there’s a spike in, say the word ‘iran’¯ or ‘mueller’¯ or ‘deep state’,¯ etc, it probably means something. knowing about it before  it becomes reality means not always having to play catch up

credit it —  trump needs a RUSH tattoo on his forehead, as do all republican pols and media hacks. they all ride the talk radio bandwagon and feed from the daily smorgasbord of talking points and excuses. dems in media could accurately preface answers to republican media hacks and politicians with “that’s what limbaugh says but...”¯

investigate it —  how long has putin been using it? did they find a way to feed limbaugh and coordinate with him and others? are any of them being paid  freelance money? exposing the talk radio gods as tools, especially russian tools, would help. Trump guy Sam Nunberg analyzed 1000s of hrs of RW radio & reported to Trump in 2014. to coordinate with Russian ops?

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Response to certainot (Reply #42)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 08:46 PM

47. +1000 this! wish I had seen your post earlier today!

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 06:46 AM

5. It started out that way.

Including the blond female commentators.

https://m.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 06:52 AM

6. +1!!! This and campaign finance are the root causes of most of our problems, so

let's treat them as such and protest, march, call, letters...

I have been saying this for years because it is true! We should not have to have left leaning media compete, we should be demanding an end to this and a return to actual, factual news! When we can gain control again this needs to be the #1 issue we demand of our politicians. We would actually regain control of our government from the Plutocrats and oligarchs who currently pull the strings of our politicians and spew propaganda to control us!

Nothing more important than this!!!

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Response to Dustlawyer (Reply #6)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 07:24 AM

10. I've written , called, screamed , etc....

But, how do we put the tube back in the toothpaste.
Americans now accept this form of "news".
Dan Rather and a few others, including the PBS guy whose name I can't remember, keep writing and talking about how it is ruining what's left of real journalism.
But, our political leaders either don't seem to care or feel helpless to do so.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #10)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 07:56 AM

22. Not sure we can

The left has to get into the game - particularly on the internet.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #10)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 08:34 AM

34. Jim Lehrer at PBS nt

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Response to alp227 (Reply #34)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 08:56 AM

39. He's good too...but I was thinking of Bill Moyers

Nt

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 07:13 AM

8. Pox News and hate radio

are the brain poison wrecking the country.

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Response to The Wizard (Reply #8)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 07:25 AM

11. Wiz....you actually

Summed up in one sentence what it took me way too many words to say. Thank you.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #11)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 07:30 AM

14. Keep the message simple

and make the enemy defend their immoral positions. Then ask them about Jesus.

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Response to The Wizard (Reply #14)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 10:27 PM

50. Remember "What would Jesus Do?" That sentiment sure disappeared. People know the Repubs

are nothing like Jesus.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 07:24 AM

9. Fair and balanced implies

all others are not, and therefore biased. This is the language of a cult. And because profit is the Holy Grail, we are victimized by this propaganda falsely advertised as news.
The deliberate dumbing down and failure to teach critical thinking has made this a Third World nation of lords and serfs, and the serfs approve of the ass rape as long as they get to chant USA USA USA. USA USA USA was Seig Heil in Nazi Germany.
So tell me, why did the Greatest Generation fight WW II. The whirring sound in the background is our parents and grandparents spinning in their graves.

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Response to The Wizard (Reply #9)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 07:27 AM

12. DELIBERATE dumbing down.

I say this all of the time. Spot on!
We must be brothers/sisters from another mother/mister. Lol.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #12)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 07:29 AM

13. It's out in the open

and they're proud of spreading hate disguised as news.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 07:40 AM

15. Give of gift of NYT or WaPo to your Trump loving family members

Tell them you want them to keep their brain healthy by giving it some nutritious food

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Response to Fresh_Start (Reply #15)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 10:38 PM

52. Now that is a good idea!

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 07:48 AM

16. +1000

There is one major difference now.

In the past, GOP politicians who were mostly just beneficiaries of the noise.

Now, DT and a scary percentage of the Congress are actually consumers of it.

It is the logical and frightening evolution.

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Response to genxlib (Reply #16)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 07:57 AM

24. They have come to believe their bullshit

Paul Ryan grew up in it ...

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 07:50 AM

18. Close - but the cause is

that people are dumb as shit.

End of the day, you can have Rush et al bloviating 24 hours a day every day with you or me listening and we would puke our guts out until we die, cause it is all meandering bullshit.

You and I know that.

The problem is 1/3 of the country full on believes it, and another 1/3 are so distracted and uninterested, they believe there has to be something to it given that the 1/3 feels so strongly about it.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 07:53 AM

20. Yes yes yes yes yes yes!

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 07:56 AM

23. The rise of Limbuagh's empire...

was based on a completely clever business scheme...

All those tiny, financially distressed local radio stations were given Rushbo's program for FREE...they didn't pay anything for the content but Rush's EB network got to keep one-half of the advertising slots and the local station got to sell and keep the revenue from the other half.

Sooooo...EB got sell ad space at a premium price because of the broad national coverage and the tiny local stations got to pick up listenership from the embedded conservative base AND charge more for advertising and hence make a tidy little profit. Rush was a double whammy for the stations...entertainment and politics..

And it grew...and grew as local AM stations faced the choice of extinction or compliance....

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Response to ewagner (Reply #23)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 08:16 AM

31. Wow! So that is why the countryside is full of right wing crap.

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Response to ewagner (Reply #23)

Sat Aug 12, 2017, 07:37 PM

58. What's funny and sad is that Rush didn't want this initially

He worked in baseball and wanted to be a General Manager.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #58)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 07:25 AM

59. Didn't know that...n/t

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Response to ewagner (Reply #59)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 07:52 AM

60. He's from Missouri.

Worked for Royals for a while.
His whole shtick is an act.....a very profitable one.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #60)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 10:50 AM

61. I knew he was from Missouri

..but didn't know about baseball...when I was on the road for an Ag manufacturer I was often in some very, very rural areas and had the choice of only three AM stations on the truck radio...one carried Rush from 11AM to 2PM and the other two carried Rush from 1PM to 3PM...not much choice except "Rush or Off"...Off was the preferred.

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Response to ewagner (Reply #61)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 12:02 PM

62. I'll bet he actually hates that Hillary lost.

He would much rather attack her than defend Trump.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 07:59 AM

25. I agree 100% The RW media created an alternative reality that brianwashed millions

I lost both my parents to Fox News and the National Review.

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Response to Nitram (Reply #25)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 08:06 AM

27. Condolences

I've lost a few family members and friends also to the cult.
I would guess that most here have.
Sad! As dear leader would say.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #27)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 08:11 AM

30. Very sad. It is extremely painful to see your own parents sink into the false paranoid reality

the RW hucksters have created to sell ads and get elected. You can see them, and hear them talk, but they no longer can hear a thing you say to them.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #27)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 11:44 PM

55. Yup yup, me too... one of my best friend's wife has gone over to the "Dark Side."

She's worships tRump, like a cultist, while he's a big Bernie supporter, which has definitely put a strain on their marriage. (Don't know how he puts up with it.)

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Response to Nitram (Reply #25)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 08:46 PM

48. Wow ... I've never looked at it like that ... Makes me despise them more

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 08:01 AM

26. Maybe you could find someone better than Charlton Heston to quote for your wrap-up.

But seriously, your title points to one specific cause, but I think your essay more accurately argues that it's an unfortunate combination of many factors.

I think our best hope is that the Trump crime family will get busted and charged with a phone book full of crimes, because

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Response to Towlie (Reply #26)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 08:07 AM

29. Lol....that was him, wasn't it...

But, I think it was before he got culted and owned by the NRA.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 08:06 AM

28. Caustic Combination

20+ years of incessant right wing propoganda + gullible pliable often not so bright people....propelled us to this mess.

Combine this with other factors....the Electoral College, States with less people than many cities getting 2 Senators, rampant gerrymandering, the ridiculous thought that money is speech, CrossCheck, etc.....the deck is stacked. Our system is tilted for the right.

Sane progressive people are really up against it.

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Response to colsohlibgal (Reply #28)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 08:26 AM

33. It appears the radical right is in an amplifying feedback loop which will self destruct.

The crazier and scarier things get, the more it looks like this might happen.

One can hope! And hope the rest of us survive!

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 08:22 AM

32. You could go back further to when they repealed the Fairness Doctrine.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 08:35 AM

35. Young people do not watch Faux News

It's our only hope.

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Response to iamateacher (Reply #35)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 10:32 PM

51. They get their news mostly online, which can be much worse

Fake news is rampant and unchecked on social media.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 08:37 AM

36. Trump is the affliction, RW media is a symtom, Ignorant and lazy public is the cause.

 

Loved your analogy, but I don't feel it really drills down to the cause, but to a symptom.

Trump is the cancerous tumor result that is destroying the body of our Democratic Republic system.

The right wing media, the ratings driven click bait media, and internet driven fake news generated media are but symptoms of the cause.

The real root cause is large numbers of apathetic and ignorant voters. Voters who have absolutely no ability or interest in applying critical thinking to their choices, or who are so apathetic that they recuse themselves from the election process all together.

Voters who care about our government, country, and the people who make up our country (and the world for that matter) will be immune to those media sources, and prevent the cancer.

Voters who take the time to research actual history on their candidates to make informed decisions when they're at the polls - immune to the symptoms and prevent the cancer.

Voters who apply critical thinking exercises to information they receive, instead of buying instantly into the hyperbole, misinformation, and agenda of the message sender - immune to the symptoms and prevent the cancer.

Right wing media is despicable, but it is only a symptom. It can't exist without a base of viewer/reader support.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 08:41 AM

37. It's About White Male Supremacy & Redistributing American Wealth Upward

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 08:51 AM

38. Not having civics class in schools.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 08:59 AM

41. It will get worse.

There is a new breed of video and audio manipulation tools out there that will soon make it impossible to tell fact from fiction. We should be frightened by this.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jul/26/fake-news-obama-video-trump-face2face-doctored-content

However, there’s a new breed of video and audio manipulation tools, made possible by advances in artificial intelligence and computer graphics, that will allow for the creation of realistic looking footage of public figures appearing to say, well, anything. Trump declaring his proclivity for water sports. Hillary Clinton describing the stolen children she keeps locked in her wine cellar. Tom Cruise finally admitting what we suspected all along … that he’s a Brony.

This is the future of fake news. We’ve long been told not to believe everything we read, but soon we’ll have to question everything we see and hear as well.

For now, there are several research teams working on capturing and synthesizing different visual and and audio elements of human behavior.

Software developed at Stanford University is able to manipulate video footage of public figures to allow a second person to put words in their mouth – in real time. Face2Face captures the second person’s facial expressions as they talk into a webcam and then morphs those movements directly onto the face of the person in the original video. The research team demonstrated their technology by puppeteering videos of George W Bush, Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump.

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Response to alarimer (Reply #41)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 08:39 PM

46. I posted an article hare about that a few months back.

Not a single reply.

I don't know if people didn't believe it or didn't care or just were overwhelmed, but I had hoped to hear what others thought.

My hope is that if we can develop the technology to do that, we can develop the technology to prove what's real and what's doctored.

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Response to alarimer (Reply #41)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 08:49 PM

49. Saw this but it takes a bit of sophistication and there might be some tell Tales

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 11:27 AM

45. The Conservative Entertainment Complex is something to be hated with a red burning passion

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 11:50 PM

56. It was suicide to kill the Fairness Doctrine

 

and let the reich wing spew their hate and lies 24/7/365.

It is destroying this country, Trump is the end game I fear.

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