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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIf I hear one more fucking pundit on MSNBC say
"both sides" one more fucking time I'll scream.
Here's something for our clueless media...one side is full of fucking hatred because of racism... the "other" side is opposed to that hatred.
Talking about "both sides" is how you have fucking normalized racist hatred.
In other words... your normalizing coverage over the past fucking decade have brought us here
Egnever
(21,506 posts)fuck the both sides bull shit.
olegramps
(8,200 posts)In the article adapted from Rick Perlstein's titled: "How Political Lies Became the New Normal" this phenomena discussed.
Dating from the 1980's "There evolved a new media definition of civility that privileged "balance" over truth-telling-even when one side was lying."...Right-wing ideologues lie without challenge since the so-called "balanced networks frame their lies as just another he-said-she said controversy.
Chasstev365
(5,191 posts)jrthin
(4,835 posts)NRaleighLiberal
(60,013 posts)iluvtennis
(19,844 posts)dalton99a
(81,433 posts)brer cat
(24,555 posts)pwb
(11,258 posts)I cut the cable just because of opinion being pushed as news. Cable news fucked this country up. All of them.
MountainFool
(91 posts)Not one penny to news outlets that are too timid to tell right from wrong.
zz-la
(224 posts)Even some former trusted sites and channels have sadly pandered and sold this tripe for simple monetary gains.
The other thing that I am sick of hearing is that both parties have moved to the extremes. Even Obama said that. IT IS NOT TRUE. The Republicans have moved so far to the right that they are hanging off the cliff, whereas the Democrats have also moved to the right and call it the "center." What is now called "the left" used to be the center before the DLC took over the party in the 1990s.
BeyondGeography
(39,367 posts)One party is determined to undermine our government at every turn. Our leaders have done a piss poor job of calling them out, Obama included.
MFM008
(19,804 posts)We go high because someone just hit us with a car.
superpatriotman
(6,247 posts)We get run over. I'm not liking this formula anymore.
MFM008
(19,804 posts)BeyondGeography
(39,367 posts)Lokilooney
(322 posts)Boomerproud
(7,951 posts)they are undermining the people are they not? What is their motivation besides hurting people?
zz-la
(224 posts)They wanted to believe that Trump was elected because his supporters needed jobs, or at least a great many of them did. They ignored what most of us always knew. It has always been the hatred and racism. Any one that says they voted for Rump because of jobs is lying. ALL OF THEM ARE LYING. And the DNC needs to start pushing this narrative and let the chips fall where they may. Expose these people, it's the only way out.
BSdetect
(8,998 posts)And also just not clued up enough about issues.
Mr.Bill
(24,274 posts)you don't have to worry about pissing off 50% of the country by accurately reporting what is happening here. Only about 2% of the country is watching the way you report things now.
Paladin
(28,246 posts)No, Chuck: Both sides don't do it. When was the last time an anti-Semitic slur was aimed your way by a liberal?
unitedwethrive
(1,997 posts)who are motivated by hatred and racism.
Doug the Dem
(1,297 posts)The other is batshit-fucking crazy, in addition to its racism.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)I knew they would say that, and I know that Trump and the Republicans will say it.
It makes me furious to hear so I take pity on myself and turn the sound of.
vicman
(478 posts)but it's just true
Thanks for saying what I was thinking.
japple
(9,819 posts)They are parroting der fuhrer.
HurricaneWarning
(220 posts)I wonder how long she is going to remain a Republican?
NobodyHere
(2,810 posts)There WAS violence by both sides.
This wasn't a love-fest
maxrandb
(15,316 posts)And when the Nazis marched on France, there was "violence on both sides"
Damn those people standing up against hatred, racism and fascism!
Nitram
(22,781 posts)But I keep hearing this even from people I know.
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)drive a car through a group of people. GET REAL. Round these Nazis up, ship them over to a country that would welcome them. Maybe Vlad would make room for all these friends of Donnies? These people went there, hoping to cause trouble, and they did. Too bad David Duke was not injured. Strangely, the "leaders"" are always protected, aren't they?
Danmel
(4,912 posts)They are both flawed candidates. She has baggage too. But her email. She gave speeches.
Bullshit.
There was no equivalency then. There is no equivalence now.
OutaHere
(53 posts)I mean it.
Once some Republicans says 10 things that are not true, they should not be allowed on any real news shows.
They get a platform to spew their nonsense, trickle down fantasies, and outright lies.
And their "free market" garbage.
In a free market we have one monopoly, and the rest of us are slaves.
Duppers
(28,117 posts)The media is responsible for so much of this. But remember who owns them.
Duppers
(28,117 posts)Yes, we have elected Democrats here! Our two Senators, our Governor, our AG are Democratic and we went blue for Hillary. We have some distinctions from other southern states. Note, the car that murdered that man and injured all those people had Ohio plates.
Scruffy1
(3,254 posts)Of course that is because I've boycotted the MSM for many years. Take that garbage can in your living room and haul it to the curb.
eleny
(46,166 posts)They're not brave enough to deal with any backlash from the racists and the antisemitic.
George II
(67,782 posts)....was there with protest signs.
Which "side" was out for disruption?
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,988 posts)moonseller66
(430 posts)I said it before and I'll say it again...we all call our reps and senators about health care and social security, etc. etc. And it seems to get their attention. Now it's time to start calling the media offices and flooding them with complaints over their "both sides do it" reporting among other items. You all know the drill by now. I've been doing it for a number of months.
Maybe some Progressive sites can start a flood by getting their readers and followers to call MSNBC, CNN, ABC, CBS (fuck Fox!) and flood their switchboards with people upset over their fantasy reality reporting.
Imagine MSNBC getting a million calls complaining about Chuck Todd and his "everybody does it" 10 year old mentality!
maxrandb
(15,316 posts)Local Sinclair hate radio station will do more than half a million on the DC Mall.
Why do colleges broadcast their football games on stations that provide nothing but wingnut hate for the other 165 hours of the week?
Why is the most powerful hate radio station in overwhelmingly blue cities broadcasting nothing but wingnut hate?
I will tell you why. It's because they pay no price for their propaganda.
We can't get to a national corporation like Sinclair, but we sure as hell can get to their local affiliates
stuffmatters
(2,574 posts)My local NBC, ABC and CBS ...they all do it ALL THE TIME. Sinclair coming is an outrage, agreed. And the "normal"media also need
in person protests for their relentless journalistic malpractice.
stuffmatters
(2,574 posts)Yes,it's mind boggling that there is no People's organized media watchdog campaign against our biased media. Even after they so egregiously enabled Trump and the nationwide dominance of the Repug Party. Maybe it can start here on DU.
Find out you local news editors and contact them every time they feature repug lies without confrontation, ignore our protests or our Reps, or give the "last word" to Repug liars.
I call our local stations all the time for repeating Repug bull shit at 5. It's gone by 11. So it works. But what surprises me is that the news editors always act surprised to hear my objections, indicating I'm like the only person calling. And I live in a County of millions of voters with a majority being Democrats.
thegoose
(3,115 posts)Was because of the fucking hateful Nazi scum! Jesus!
bucolic_frolic
(43,123 posts)is an abrogation of journalism
and in the name of what? They are signaling they are afraid of them which only encourages them to do more violence
We cannot be afraid, FEAR is the posture of SUBMISSION
Those were brave souls in Virginia today
This must end
Coventina
(27,093 posts)Only one side was in the right.
(Hint: Not the Nazis).
Rabrrrrrr
(58,347 posts)in this world war..."
I could see them doing it today because they're so goddamn afraid of just telling the right that they're wrong, so they do all this false equivalency, trying-to-be-fair-to-everyone idiocy.
Rabrrrrrr
(58,347 posts)No two sides, or even multiple sides on these, assholes.
There's science, and there's bullshit.
many a good man
(5,997 posts)There's the pro-hate side and the anti-hate side. Both names have hate in them
Bladewire
(381 posts)they are racist.
Today Trump made it unequivocally clear that he is a racist. As if we did not know this before.
The Trump backlash will be stealth, and more than he ever realized. America is bigger than your small mind Trump.
Orrex
(63,199 posts)"Yes, they're racist, but so is BLM."
Fuck every Good German who tries that bullshit line of reasoning. Fuck them with a flaming jackhammer.
HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)My grandfather FOUGHT fascists and Nazis in WWII. There was a war decided over this.
The left is not the side resurrecting hateful and murderous ideology. They just aren't.
VOX
(22,976 posts)Both sides need to cease this un-American fighting among themselves!
(Same as it ever was.)
hay rick
(7,603 posts)Here it is!
bora13
(860 posts)since our last visit to the civil war.
there are confederate types who live in the north now.
they specifically like states where they think they are as free as a bird. Free as a bird to
crap all over everyone below.
lillypaddle
(9,580 posts)I am sending this message to MSNBC - please join me, people!
zentrum
(9,865 posts)Generic Other
(28,979 posts)Propaganda. Class War.
Smickey
(3,316 posts)MojoWrkn
(139 posts)They never called him out on the terrible things he did and said while campaigning!! They acted as though he was cute. Yech . . . . . .
get the red out
(13,461 posts)Been watching CNN some, glad I haven't heard that shit!
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)Wish I could say the same. I hear this "shit" every day in the valley of the sun.
Mr. Thomas Roberts, selected by rump to host a pageant, has been a rump supporter for some time, imo. How a gay man can embrace this is a mystery for me. He is not the only one on MSNBC that embraces the alt right, there is Hugh Hewitt and a list to long for me to remain silent.
On the other hand there is Republican Richard Painter who appears as a frequent guest on some shows. I thank him for his courage in speaking truth to power.
still_one
(92,116 posts)Sucha NastyWoman
(2,745 posts)Is that occasionally I hear someone referring to this murder has an accident. I realize that intent is going to have to be proven in a court of law, but there is no proof that this is an accident either
Beartracks
(12,806 posts)... yesterday's violence could have been avoided!"
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