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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRachel brilliant tonight - "We've always had white hate groups but 2 major differences now"
1. they are identified; photographed with faces lit with torches and posted on social media - in the past, they've hidden - this means they will never be able to escape that identity; it will be locked in for life.
2. they believe they have a leader in the White House
As usual, she's connecting lots of dots. She is the best dot connector in the world.
LiberalFighter
(50,795 posts)No luck
She indicated that many have lost their jobs.
Amaryllis
(9,524 posts)Bradshaw3
(7,488 posts)And that list she had of all the white supremacist crimes was just head-shaking, even though I knew of all of them it really is astounding - and not even all inclusive. If these were Muslims or POC groups who had done these we would have a police state right now.
uponit7771
(90,304 posts)... sounds like they're getting closer .. slowly but surely
obietiger
(500 posts)Great background checks, great news coverage...Rachel knows how to tell an event and how to prove it.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)1. White supremacists have been open and identified in the past.
2. There have been many racists in the White House.
Bladewire
(381 posts)A typical tactic of the stealth far right
brush
(53,743 posts)southern strategy openly courted white racists.
Bladewire
(381 posts)We will not be divided and we will overcome the influence of Putin & Trump
brush
(53,743 posts)Read some American history.
Bladewire
(381 posts)brush
(53,743 posts)Have you even heard of the Birchers or George Lincoln Rockwell?
Rachel is brilliant but she's wrong about those two points.
Bladewire
(381 posts)Hekate
(90,565 posts)brush
(53,743 posts)ancianita
(35,950 posts)Azathoth
(4,607 posts)Hiding faces is really only a trait of the KKK. George Lincoln Rockwell and his lackeys would march in full nazi uniform with faces uncovered ... and that was back in the 50s and 60s.
The only thing that has changed is crowdsourcing through social media.
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)I have no idea how she believes that. The KKK hoods were mostly symbolic during the heyday. Faces were not concealed all the time or even most of the time. The wearers were well known within the community and did not feel threatened.
Mostly correct on #2, at least during my lifespan.
watrwefitinfor
(1,399 posts)The hoods (and sheets) were for one purpose only - terrorizing people. Period. I grew up surrounded by them. I was terrified of them.
Everyone knew who the hell they were. My dad said he had seen them jump up to a man and run out the church door during services when someone came in and went around whispering in a few ears. Next day there would be word of a new atrocity.
You watch a bunch of crazy demons all done up in white, billowing, pointy headed outfits, dancing around a huge burning cross in the neighbor's field, all holding torches and dancing and jumping around like a bunch of twirling dervishes - then look over in the fiery light reflecting off your grandfather driving you home from the Saturday night movie to ask him through your terror and sudden tears of fear, What is it? And see his old farmers' knuckles white from clutching the steering wheel in his anger, and squeezing out the word Klan through clenched teeth to the terrified ten year old child.
The hoods were merely part of their whole game. Terrify people. Black people. Indian people. And white people who screwed around on their wives, ran a "cat house", broke other "Christian" moral rules, or consorted with black or Indian people.
I am white, and as terrified as I was, imagine how terrified a ten year old black or Indian child would have been to see them. I soon learned they only burnt crosses and whipped certain members of my family. To my knowledge they never hanged, dismembered or disemboweled one of them.
I'll bet those lighted torches last Friday night brought back a lot of horrific memories - worse than mine - to a lot of people besides me.
Wat
irisblue
(32,932 posts)brush
(53,743 posts)obvious things like their images being forever preserved on the internet.
Duh!
Bet they used electronic technology with it's speed to coordinate their racist rally info across the country but didn't take into account that that very speed of communication would lock their photos in its quicksand for all to see forever.
Oh the irony.
irisblue
(32,932 posts)seems that they didn't realize the internet can works many ways
BigmanPigman
(51,569 posts)and are proudly showing their own videos and pictures with their fellow loser pals.
Tatiana
(14,167 posts)People created lynching postcards, where people were clearly visible and identifiable.
(http://www.cvltnation.com/nsfw-american-terrorism-lynching-postcards/ **Warning** graphic depictions)
Moreover, the KKK wore hoods, but it wasn't just to hide their identities -- it was an intimidation and scare tactic. People knew who belonged to the KKK. KKK members burned down the first home by great-grandparents built in rural Arkansas and my great-grandparents knew exactly who committed the heinous act.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)so methodically builds up her case, but I disagree. She does it so there can be no confusion, no simply dismissing her conclusion because the point wasn't clearly made.
And I think it's especially helpful with people so often multitasking now. I'm usually surfing, posting, etc. during that sort of show, so even if she gets a little repetitious, I appreciate the thoroughness.