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Amaryllis

(9,524 posts)
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 09:22 PM Aug 2017

Rachel brilliant tonight - "We've always had white hate groups but 2 major differences now"

1. they are identified; photographed with faces lit with torches and posted on social media - in the past, they've hidden - this means they will never be able to escape that identity; it will be locked in for life.

2. they believe they have a leader in the White House

As usual, she's connecting lots of dots. She is the best dot connector in the world.

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Rachel brilliant tonight - "We've always had white hate groups but 2 major differences now" (Original Post) Amaryllis Aug 2017 OP
Yes! I tried to find what she did tonite on FB. LiberalFighter Aug 2017 #1
It will be posted on You Tube and MSNBC videos later tonight. Amaryllis Aug 2017 #2
Yes she is. Bradshaw3 Aug 2017 #3
BOOM: She just reported another threat by Benedict Donald's lawyers in regards to money laundering uponit7771 Aug 2017 #4
One of Rachel's best ever! obietiger Aug 2017 #5
She is wrong on both counts oberliner Aug 2017 #6
☝️ Trying to divide by manufactured outrage Bladewire Aug 2017 #7
Nah, he's right on both counts. The John Birchers didn't wear hoods and Nixon of the... brush Aug 2017 #11
☝️ Trying to divide us again 🇺🇸 Bladewire Aug 2017 #12
Wake up, dude. Nobody's trying to divide anyone. You're missing obvious points. brush Aug 2017 #14
☝️ Counterintuitive negotiation tactic Bladewire Aug 2017 #18
Whatever you're smoking take a break and get up to speed. Stuff is going over your head. brush Aug 2017 #19
☝️ Trying to relate as you dominate tactic Bladewire Aug 2017 #20
That seems to be his theme tonight: telling us we are the dividers Hekate Aug 2017 #22
Yeah, something's not quite right. brush Aug 2017 #23
Definitely the best interpreter in the world. nt ancianita Aug 2017 #8
She's wrong on number 1 Azathoth Aug 2017 #9
Rachel is not even close on number 1 Awsi Dooger Aug 2017 #17
What they were for was not so much hiding their faces. watrwefitinfor Aug 2017 #25
No hoods + internet equals you're known forever. irisblue Aug 2017 #10
Right! Those creeps think they're so mentally superior but failed to think about such... brush Aug 2017 #13
You are right brush 👆 irisblue Aug 2017 #15
They are probably so dense that they like the publicity BigmanPigman Aug 2017 #16
Rachel is definitely wrong on #1. Tatiana Aug 2017 #21
She really is an excellent dot connecter. Some say it's annoying how she Dark n Stormy Knight Aug 2017 #24

Bradshaw3

(7,488 posts)
3. Yes she is.
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 09:29 PM
Aug 2017

And that list she had of all the white supremacist crimes was just head-shaking, even though I knew of all of them it really is astounding - and not even all inclusive. If these were Muslims or POC groups who had done these we would have a police state right now.

uponit7771

(90,304 posts)
4. BOOM: She just reported another threat by Benedict Donald's lawyers in regards to money laundering
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 09:57 PM
Aug 2017

... sounds like they're getting closer .. slowly but surely

obietiger

(500 posts)
5. One of Rachel's best ever!
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 10:25 PM
Aug 2017

Great background checks, great news coverage...Rachel knows how to tell an event and how to prove it.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
6. She is wrong on both counts
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 10:52 PM
Aug 2017

1. White supremacists have been open and identified in the past.

2. There have been many racists in the White House.

brush

(53,743 posts)
11. Nah, he's right on both counts. The John Birchers didn't wear hoods and Nixon of the...
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 11:41 PM
Aug 2017

southern strategy openly courted white racists.

 

Bladewire

(381 posts)
12. ☝️ Trying to divide us again 🇺🇸
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 11:49 PM
Aug 2017

We will not be divided and we will overcome the influence of Putin & Trump

brush

(53,743 posts)
14. Wake up, dude. Nobody's trying to divide anyone. You're missing obvious points.
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 11:51 PM
Aug 2017

Read some American history.

brush

(53,743 posts)
19. Whatever you're smoking take a break and get up to speed. Stuff is going over your head.
Tue Aug 15, 2017, 12:14 AM
Aug 2017

Have you even heard of the Birchers or George Lincoln Rockwell?

Rachel is brilliant but she's wrong about those two points.

Azathoth

(4,607 posts)
9. She's wrong on number 1
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 11:35 PM
Aug 2017

Hiding faces is really only a trait of the KKK. George Lincoln Rockwell and his lackeys would march in full nazi uniform with faces uncovered ... and that was back in the 50s and 60s.

The only thing that has changed is crowdsourcing through social media.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
17. Rachel is not even close on number 1
Tue Aug 15, 2017, 12:05 AM
Aug 2017

I have no idea how she believes that. The KKK hoods were mostly symbolic during the heyday. Faces were not concealed all the time or even most of the time. The wearers were well known within the community and did not feel threatened.

Mostly correct on #2, at least during my lifespan.

watrwefitinfor

(1,399 posts)
25. What they were for was not so much hiding their faces.
Tue Aug 15, 2017, 09:07 PM
Aug 2017

The hoods (and sheets) were for one purpose only - terrorizing people. Period. I grew up surrounded by them. I was terrified of them.

Everyone knew who the hell they were. My dad said he had seen them jump up to a man and run out the church door during services when someone came in and went around whispering in a few ears. Next day there would be word of a new atrocity.

You watch a bunch of crazy demons all done up in white, billowing, pointy headed outfits, dancing around a huge burning cross in the neighbor's field, all holding torches and dancing and jumping around like a bunch of twirling dervishes - then look over in the fiery light reflecting off your grandfather driving you home from the Saturday night movie to ask him through your terror and sudden tears of fear, What is it? And see his old farmers' knuckles white from clutching the steering wheel in his anger, and squeezing out the word Klan through clenched teeth to the terrified ten year old child.

The hoods were merely part of their whole game. Terrify people. Black people. Indian people. And white people who screwed around on their wives, ran a "cat house", broke other "Christian" moral rules, or consorted with black or Indian people.

I am white, and as terrified as I was, imagine how terrified a ten year old black or Indian child would have been to see them. I soon learned they only burnt crosses and whipped certain members of my family. To my knowledge they never hanged, dismembered or disemboweled one of them.

I'll bet those lighted torches last Friday night brought back a lot of horrific memories - worse than mine - to a lot of people besides me.

Wat

brush

(53,743 posts)
13. Right! Those creeps think they're so mentally superior but failed to think about such...
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 11:50 PM
Aug 2017

obvious things like their images being forever preserved on the internet.

Duh!

Bet they used electronic technology with it's speed to coordinate their racist rally info across the country but didn't take into account that that very speed of communication would lock their photos in its quicksand for all to see forever.

Oh the irony.

BigmanPigman

(51,569 posts)
16. They are probably so dense that they like the publicity
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 11:58 PM
Aug 2017

and are proudly showing their own videos and pictures with their fellow loser pals.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
21. Rachel is definitely wrong on #1.
Tue Aug 15, 2017, 12:57 AM
Aug 2017

People created lynching postcards, where people were clearly visible and identifiable.

(http://www.cvltnation.com/nsfw-american-terrorism-lynching-postcards/ **Warning** graphic depictions)

Moreover, the KKK wore hoods, but it wasn't just to hide their identities -- it was an intimidation and scare tactic. People knew who belonged to the KKK. KKK members burned down the first home by great-grandparents built in rural Arkansas and my great-grandparents knew exactly who committed the heinous act.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
24. She really is an excellent dot connecter. Some say it's annoying how she
Tue Aug 15, 2017, 05:10 PM
Aug 2017

so methodically builds up her case, but I disagree. She does it so there can be no confusion, no simply dismissing her conclusion because the point wasn't clearly made.

And I think it's especially helpful with people so often multitasking now. I'm usually surfing, posting, etc. during that sort of show, so even if she gets a little repetitious, I appreciate the thoroughness.

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