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Serious question. Wouldn't that little Nazi piece of shit have had to disconnect the air bags (Original Post) rzemanfl Aug 2017 OP
Good point. Could show intent. nt icymist Aug 2017 #1
Would definitely show intent nt BASE Aug 2017 #8
Oh he shut it off. He is a chicken shit kind of terrorist. He thought he could get away. The_Casual_Observer Aug 2017 #2
No, the force of a body impacting the car may not have been high enough to deploy airbags. Gravitycollapse Aug 2017 #3
He also hit two cars though. yardwork Aug 2017 #4
Yeah, it just depends on the force and speed of impact. Gravitycollapse Aug 2017 #10
Did you see the front of the car? I looked like it was in pretty bad shape. smirkymonkey Aug 2017 #11
It actually wasn't as bad as you would think. Mostly cosmetic. Gravitycollapse Aug 2017 #17
Thank you for the picture. I found this on net- rzemanfl Aug 2017 #18
Yeah here's a good link with info... Gravitycollapse Aug 2017 #19
plenty fast enough and hard enough to deploy the airbags madokie Aug 2017 #25
It's a Chrysler. Atman Aug 2017 #22
Good question! yardwork Aug 2017 #5
I'm curious about that too BASE Aug 2017 #6
"In everything I've wrecked" kinda makes me not want to ask you for a ride. I did not know rzemanfl Aug 2017 #9
lol, that does sound bad BASE Aug 2017 #12
Make perfect sense. I started driving when cars had carburetors (except for Vette's a few Chevys). rzemanfl Aug 2017 #14
Fords used to be notorious for the switch activating on large bumps. Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2017 #15
Used to happen in my old Escort Codeine Aug 2017 #20
Hey! Chellee Aug 2017 #23
Certainly something to be investigated speaktruthtopower Aug 2017 #7
Air bags do not remain inflated. Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2017 #13
He was able to back away really fast. That's all I know. Another poster says the fuel rzemanfl Aug 2017 #16
Plus, in the pic above... Docreed2003 Aug 2017 #26
k&r JonLP24 Aug 2017 #21
He had to make his way thru back streets and alleys. Premeditated w/o doubt. L. Coyote Aug 2017 #24
That, or the seven buck-an-hour Nazi nightwatchman... Brother Buzz Aug 2017 #27
Could be, although someone here said he got some trust fund money. n/t rzemanfl Aug 2017 #33
Good point. nt ecstatic Aug 2017 #28
So, as I understand... Stryst Aug 2017 #29
It's an FCA product, so they might just not have worked... nt ExciteBike66 Aug 2017 #30
Brilliant point malaise Aug 2017 #31
That is an amazing observation Orrex Aug 2017 #32
looks like the asshole had his onethatcares Aug 2017 #34
 

The_Casual_Observer

(27,742 posts)
2. Oh he shut it off. He is a chicken shit kind of terrorist. He thought he could get away.
Tue Aug 15, 2017, 09:07 PM
Aug 2017

Instead of saving us the grief and snuffing himself like a good nazi.

Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
10. Yeah, it just depends on the force and speed of impact.
Tue Aug 15, 2017, 09:11 PM
Aug 2017

Airbags are not designed to go off under a given speed and force. If one or both of those were not exceeded, the airbags would not deploy.

I suppose it's possible he pulled the fuze for his airbags. But it's also possible they just didn't deploy.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
11. Did you see the front of the car? I looked like it was in pretty bad shape.
Tue Aug 15, 2017, 09:20 PM
Aug 2017

I don't know exactly HOW much force it would take to deploy an airbag, but the damage looked pretty serious to me.

Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
17. It actually wasn't as bad as you would think. Mostly cosmetic.
Tue Aug 15, 2017, 09:26 PM
Aug 2017

It was mostly isolated to the front fascia, hood, and windshield. I think it might have just been right on the threshold of when an airbag would deploy. I'm not an expert though.

rzemanfl

(29,556 posts)
18. Thank you for the picture. I found this on net-
Tue Aug 15, 2017, 11:02 PM
Aug 2017
The airbag is connected to a crash sensor, which will deploy the airbag if the car gets into a sufficiently severe crash, which is usually defined as a head-on and near-head-on crash at approximately 8 to 14 MPH.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
25. plenty fast enough and hard enough to deploy the airbags
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 12:45 AM
Aug 2017

I've seen too many results of too many low speed accidents. I'd say he disabled the airbags somehow

But then again the airbags may have deployed and deflated as they're designed to immediately deflate

 

BASE

(44 posts)
6. I'm curious about that too
Tue Aug 15, 2017, 09:09 PM
Aug 2017

Maybe the people he hit slowed him down enough that there wasn't enough of an impact. There is also a crash sensing switch that kills the fuel pump in everything I've wrecked. You have to reset that thing before it will run if it trips.

rzemanfl

(29,556 posts)
9. "In everything I've wrecked" kinda makes me not want to ask you for a ride. I did not know
Tue Aug 15, 2017, 09:11 PM
Aug 2017

about the fuel pump kill switch.

 

BASE

(44 posts)
12. lol, that does sound bad
Tue Aug 15, 2017, 09:20 PM
Aug 2017

But the shutoff is a real thing and it's necessary to keep you from dying in a fire with fuel injected cars. gas spraying everywhere is a bad thing after a wreck.

rzemanfl

(29,556 posts)
14. Make perfect sense. I started driving when cars had carburetors (except for Vette's a few Chevys).
Tue Aug 15, 2017, 09:23 PM
Aug 2017

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,324 posts)
15. Fords used to be notorious for the switch activating on large bumps.
Tue Aug 15, 2017, 09:25 PM
Aug 2017

Not sure if that is still the case.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
20. Used to happen in my old Escort
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 12:17 AM
Aug 2017

all the time on a really raunchy section of the 10 freeway in Southern California. I had to pick a very specific path from lane to lane at that area to avoid having the car shutdown at freeway speed.

Chellee

(2,095 posts)
23. Hey!
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 12:38 AM
Aug 2017


Nobody wants to ride with me either.

Yes, I've totaled several cars. But some of them barely even looked dented. Apparently, it's the way I dent them.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,324 posts)
13. Air bags do not remain inflated.
Tue Aug 15, 2017, 09:23 PM
Aug 2017

Are you saying the air bags didn't inflate?

Iirc, the bags deflate pretty quickly in case the car is still moving and needs to be controlled.

rzemanfl

(29,556 posts)
16. He was able to back away really fast. That's all I know. Another poster says the fuel
Tue Aug 15, 2017, 09:25 PM
Aug 2017

pump also shuts down in a crash.

Docreed2003

(16,858 posts)
26. Plus, in the pic above...
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 12:49 AM
Aug 2017

If the airbags had deployed, you should be able to see them, or at least the deflated bags...the steering wheel shows no signs of airbags in that pic!

Brother Buzz

(36,416 posts)
27. That, or the seven buck-an-hour Nazi nightwatchman...
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 01:15 AM
Aug 2017

bought the biggest bling car he could afford: a high millage 2010 Dodge Challenger that was in a minor fender bender that blew the air bags and never got replaced.

Stryst

(714 posts)
29. So, as I understand...
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 01:21 AM
Aug 2017

Acceleration/deceleration is measured in gravity (g). 1G equals the force of acceleration of the Earth's gravity well pulling at you. Full breaking from normal highway speeds produces about 0.6 g of acceleration force.

Since you don't want your airbags triggering during normal breaking, the switches are set much higher. Most airbags are triggered by small tubes that break at around 9-10 g, because most car collisions produce between 10-80 g of acceleration.

People are much softer than cars, and when they're hit, they get knocked away. This absorbs some of the acceleration force, so it's possible that when he hit the other car, the collision produced less than 10 g of acceleration.

The reason his bumper and hood were so messed up is because modern cars have purposeful failure points, like panels that crumple, and a bumper that flies away. This all absorbs that acceleration force during a collision, but it also means that even low impact collisions mess up your car.


I took college physics, and I kind of know cars, but take all of this with a grain of salt.

Orrex

(63,202 posts)
32. That is an amazing observation
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 06:42 AM
Aug 2017

I honestly don't think it would have occurred to me.

I'm skeptical that this murderous piece of shit thought far enough ahead to disable the airbags, but...

onethatcares

(16,166 posts)
34. looks like the asshole had his
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 09:18 AM
Aug 2017

shoulder harness on.

Where are Tanaka airbags when you really need them???

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