Wed Aug 16, 2017, 06:27 PM
uppityperson (115,527 posts)
How does taking down a statue "change history"?
I don't understand, it seems nonsensical. Explain to me, if you can, please. Thank you.
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uppityperson | Aug 2017 | OP |
uponit7771 | Aug 2017 | #1 | |
Bladewire | Aug 2017 | #2 | |
MoonRiver | Aug 2017 | #4 | |
uppityperson | Aug 2017 | #5 | |
MoonRiver | Aug 2017 | #3 | |
The_Casual_Observer | Aug 2017 | #6 | |
Caliman73 | Aug 2017 | #7 | |
Bradshaw3 | Aug 2017 | #8 | |
Leith | Aug 2017 | #9 | |
Suburban Warrior | Aug 2017 | #10 | |
defacto7 | Aug 2017 | #11 |
Response to uppityperson (Original post)
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 06:28 PM
uponit7771 (89,029 posts)
1. It doesn't, seems like a strawman argument no? Americans shouldn't memorialize traitors IMHO
Response to uppityperson (Original post)
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 06:29 PM
Bladewire (381 posts)
2. Who said taking down the statues was to change history?
I've never heard this. Please explain if possible or provide links? |
Response to Bladewire (Reply #2)
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 06:31 PM
MoonRiver (36,926 posts)
4. Chumpy was saying that during his latest crazy rant.
No link, but I heard him say it.
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Response to Bladewire (Reply #2)
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 06:32 PM
uppityperson (115,527 posts)
5. Trump, white supremacists, Nazis, backers of them it's been a common thing the last couple days
that people are trying to change history by removing statues.
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Response to uppityperson (Original post)
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 06:30 PM
MoonRiver (36,926 posts)
3. Just another stupid statement from the Idiot in Chief.
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Response to uppityperson (Original post)
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 06:35 PM
The_Casual_Observer (27,276 posts)
6. In a twisted way. Those statues serve to glorify and honor the confederate idiots for some kind
of false defective history, they believe that the removal of them will rob them of this.
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Response to uppityperson (Original post)
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 06:36 PM
Caliman73 (11,011 posts)
7. It doesn't change history. It changes the future, and that is what they are afraid of.
White Supremacists/Nationalists hide behind the argument of changing history or culture because they know that taking down those racially intimidating statues from the public square, will enable an accurate narrative to be written about the place that the Confederacy should have in the history of the United States. Slavery, the Confederacy and all efforts made to revive overt White supremacy in the 20's-30's, the 50's-60's, and this current movement; belong in our history books as the shameful history of racism in the United States. They are not arguing about history. They are fighting for continued dominance in the social norms, continued unearned advantages in economic, legal, and social power. It has nothing to to with actual history and everything to do with pushing White privilege and dominance into the future.
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Response to Caliman73 (Reply #7)
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 06:37 PM
Bradshaw3 (7,060 posts)
8. Spot on take n/t
Response to uppityperson (Original post)
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 06:38 PM
Leith (7,704 posts)
9. It Doesn't - They Are Deflecting
Removing the statue removes the constant reminder and veneration of a historical criminal.
It has nothing to do with who was a slave owner. It has everything to do with who deserves to be honored. Don't fall for their usual frame changing, deflection, reversal of blame, or anything else of that sort. Do. Not. Fall. For. It. ![]() |
Response to uppityperson (Original post)
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 06:39 PM
Suburban Warrior (405 posts)
10. Or culture, as Trump said
Response to uppityperson (Original post)
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 06:43 PM
defacto7 (13,485 posts)
11. When you look at Mt. Rushmore what do you think about?
When you see the Statue of Liberty what goes through your mind?
These guys should be in textbooks and in context, not open to subjective opinion for whatever future generations want to make of them. These statues are artistically formed to be elevated monuments and that is not where these personalities belong in our nation. |