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Caliman73

(11,728 posts)
1. They need to be questioned and exposed.
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 12:17 PM
Aug 2017

What is the history that you are trying to preserve? Why is it important to preserve the likeness of traitors to the United States? What message are you wanting to send by preserving statues of people who fought against and killed Americans?

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
2. The monuments to Civil War treason and conservative/reactionary political oppression and violence
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 12:17 PM
Aug 2017

can be preserved elsewhere. Private property.........Hey, I got it.

The Trump Presidential Library and Museum of Traitors and Losers.

He could take them all, display them for the KKK and the nazis.

Maybe include a copy of the House Trumpcare bill and his favorite golf cart.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
5. Better idea: The Daughters of the Confederacy (who were behind a great many of the monuments)...
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 12:31 PM
Aug 2017

...should fund a nice piece of PRIVATE property where all of their statues and monuments can be displayed for those that wish to view them, NOT shoved down anyone's throat that goes to a public park in the South.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Daughters_of_the_Confederacy

Formation and stated aims

The UDC was established in September 10, 1894 at Nashville, Tennessee, by Caroline Goodlett and Anna Raines. According to the author Kristina DuRocher, the stated aims of the organization included "creating a social network, memorializing the war, maintaining a 'truthful record of the noble and chivalric achievements' of their veterans, and teaching the next generation 'a proper respect for and pride in the glorious war history'."

In 1896, the organization established the Children of the Confederacy to teach the same values to the younger generation, through a mythical depiction of the Civil War and Confederacy designed to rewrite history. According to DuRocher, "Like the KKK's children's groups, the UDC utilized the Children of the Confederacy to impart to the rising generations their own white-supremacist vision of the future."

The communications studies scholar W. Stuart Towns notes UDC's role "in demanding textbooks for public schools that told the story of the war and the Confederacy from a definite southern point of view". He adds that their work is one of the "essential elements [of] perpetuating Confederate mythology".

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During the period 1880-1910, the UDC was one of many groups that celebrated Lost Cause mythology and presented "a romanticized view of the slavery era" in the United States. Historian James M. McPherson has said that the present-day UDC promotes a white supremacist and neo-Confederate agenda, saying "I think I agree a hundred percent with Ed Sebesta, though, about the motives or the hidden agenda not too deeply hidden I think of such groups as the United Daughters of the Confederacy and the Sons of the Confederate Veterans. They are dedicated to celebrating the Confederacy and rather thinly veiled support for white supremacy. And I think that also is the again not very deeply hidden agenda of the Confederate flag issue in several Southern states."

Kirk Savage, professor of history of art and architecture at the University of Pittsburgh, wrote in his book Monument Wars that the UDC has tried to legitimize Jim Crow rule in the American South.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
6. You are right, the Sons of Confederate Veterans could as well, I have read a few of their magazines
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 12:36 PM
Aug 2017

they claim to be about history but if you read all of the magazine they are also about perpetrating the revisionist and political cover of the racists as well.

They could front some funding for such a museum as well.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
7. It's only about THEIR VERSION of history...
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 12:50 PM
Aug 2017

...Many of the monuments were not asked for, and many not really wanted. The Sons and Daughters of the Confederacy "gently" forced them on cities and towns. Take them all down. Put them in a privately funded museum setting. Purge the history books of the fanciful Confederate revisionist history. Remove the Confederate flag from any and all public, government-fund institutions, state or federal.

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