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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 12:42 PM Aug 2017

When Donald Destroyed Historic Art to Build Trump Tower

When Donald Destroyed Historic Art to Build Trump Tower

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/07/trump-files-when-donald-destroyed-priceless-art-build-trump-tower/

To build his skyscraper, Trump first had to knock down the Bonwit Teller building, a luxurious limestone building erected in 1929. The face of the building featured two huge Art Deco friezes that the Metropolitan Museum of Art wanted to preserve. The museum asked Trump to save the sculptures and donate them, and the mogul agreed—as long as the cost of doing so wasn’t too high.

But then, according to journalist Harry Hurt III in his book Lost Tycoon, Trump discovered that taking out the sculptures would delay demolition by two weeks. He wasn’t willing to wait. “On his orders, the demolition workers cut up the grillwork with acetylene torches,” Hurt wrote. “Then they jackhammered the friezes, dislodged them with crowbars, and pushed the remains inside the building, where they fell to the floor and shattered in a million pieces.”

The art world was shocked. “Architectural sculpture of this quality is rare and would have made definite sense in our collections,” Ashton Hawkins, the vice president and secretary of the Met’s board of trustees, told the New York Times. Robert Miller, a gallery owner who had agreed to assess the friezes, told the paper that “the reliefs are as important as the sculptures on the Rockefeller building. They’ll never be made again.”

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Trump—posing as spokesman John Baron, one of the fake alter egos he used to speak to the press throughout his career—told the Times that he had the friezes appraised and found they were “without artistic merit” and weren’t worth the $32,000 he supposedly would have had to pay to remove them intact. “Can you imagine the museum accepting them if they were not of artistic merit?” Hawkins said in response.
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When Donald Destroyed Historic Art to Build Trump Tower (Original Post) Miles Archer Aug 2017 OP
Kick. dalton99a Aug 2017 #1
Same thing MFM008 Aug 2017 #2
It's the equivalent of the Taliban blowing up those Buddhist statues, IMO. LisaM Aug 2017 #3
We can both thank David Corn Miles Archer Aug 2017 #7
I'd heard that it had happened and it didn't surprise me, but... LisaM Aug 2017 #20
The man is a sociopath. madaboutharry Aug 2017 #4
Pics annabanana Aug 2017 #5
Instead... syringis Aug 2017 #8
It seems that there is nothing connected to trump in any way that justhanginon Aug 2017 #18
LOL I love "bordello on steroids" syringis Aug 2017 #19
Gorgeous! Thanks for posting the pics! mtngirl47 Aug 2017 #16
Thank you for that, anna. dixiegrrrrl Aug 2017 #21
I remember an article about that syringis Aug 2017 #6
That John Baron guy is a real piece of shit Blue Owl Aug 2017 #9
tRump liked his alter ego so much he named his youngest after him flibbitygiblets Aug 2017 #10
I remember how much my friends in NYC hated him for doing this BigmanPigman Aug 2017 #11
Tragic in this instance, telling in his attitude toward art and historic preservation generally. suffragette Aug 2017 #12
Was this before the Trump Foundation could have paid him for them? keithbvadu2 Aug 2017 #13
What do you want to bet the contractor doing the demolition didn't get paid, either? Hugin Aug 2017 #14
The Bonwit Teller Building (1929-1980) sandensea Aug 2017 #15
Our country is now the rare piece of art that he is shamelessly destroying. NRaleighLiberal Aug 2017 #17

LisaM

(27,800 posts)
3. It's the equivalent of the Taliban blowing up those Buddhist statues, IMO.
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 12:51 PM
Aug 2017

BTW, thank you for posting this, I've been searching around for a piece on this very subject.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
7. We can both thank David Corn
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 01:14 PM
Aug 2017

He tweeted the link today in response to Trump being sad over destroying our "beautiful and historic" Confederate monuments.

LisaM

(27,800 posts)
20. I'd heard that it had happened and it didn't surprise me, but...
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 07:52 PM
Aug 2017

I didn't know the name of the building they let him destroy to build his horribly ugly tower.

syringis

(5,101 posts)
8. Instead...
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 01:35 PM
Aug 2017

...we got that :



I have seen beautiful old street clocks.

This one is just as horrible as the vulgar tacky tower.

He has never enough of that golden stuff??

justhanginon

(3,289 posts)
18. It seems that there is nothing connected to trump in any way that
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 04:05 PM
Aug 2017

does not have some sense of vulgarity attached to it. He surrounds himself with it. Whether it be his rediculously overdecorated
ostentatiously golden home in Trump Tower or Mara-Lago which looks like a bordello on steroids, they reek with a lack of taste. With Republicans in general I have found they are basically a disaster for the arts because they simply cannot make a direct correlation between the aesthetic and their lust for money and power.

syringis

(5,101 posts)
19. LOL I love "bordello on steroids"
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 05:14 PM
Aug 2017

His triplex has the most hideous decor I have ever seen. A nightmare

Is it not possible to legally save antics from destruction ?

Here (Belgium), a building can be classified. It is possible to classify just a part or even a specific piece, decoration, whatever worth to be preserved.


It avoids brutal destructions.

It is a shame for the friezes. In french we say : donner des truffes à un cochon (feed pigs with truffles)

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
21. Thank you for that, anna.
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 09:55 PM
Aug 2017

not surprised he destroyed them. Only money and Ivanka are beautiful to him, no matter how many times he throws the word around.

syringis

(5,101 posts)
6. I remember an article about that
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 01:06 PM
Aug 2017

I could'nt find it.

I remember him saying he has replaced cheap craps by nice antics or something like that...

A friend of mine, a historian of arts said Trump and his architect deserved to be hanged at the top of the monstruosity that replaced the Bonwit building.


flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
10. tRump liked his alter ego so much he named his youngest after him
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 02:38 PM
Aug 2017

Poor kid, named after a fake person. (I know, I know, not going after the kid, just the idiot father)

BigmanPigman

(51,582 posts)
11. I remember how much my friends in NYC hated him for doing this
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 02:44 PM
Aug 2017

along with a million other reasons. He was, is, and will always be a shithead.

keithbvadu2

(36,724 posts)
13. Was this before the Trump Foundation could have paid him for them?
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 02:55 PM
Aug 2017

Was this before the Trump Foundation could have paid him for them?

Hugin

(33,104 posts)
14. What do you want to bet the contractor doing the demolition didn't get paid, either?
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 03:00 PM
Aug 2017

They probably got the standard, "You can say you were working for ME! ME! ME!" line.

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