And yet this fucker goes from 34 to 38% in Gallup poll?

[PearliePoo2]

How can this be? Sickening

[appleannie1943]

1. I saw that a little bit ago and had the same reaction.

[Wounded Bear]

2. Meh, that's basically the margin of error...

[njhoneybadger]

3. America is a disgrace to the world

[Eliot Rosewater]

4. I can answer this, serioulsy

Same reason he could get almost enough votes to win, he didnt win, in the Popular Vote or EC, lost outright in one and the other was stolen by on the ground KGB agents.

But he still got 48% of the vote from people who KNEW what a vile piece of human shit he was.

I am surprised he isnt over 40%, America is deeply sick with racism and ignorance.

The rest of the planet must deal with us, as if we are children with weapons.

[Egnever]

5. Try to keep in mind polling takes a few days at least for effects to start to show up.

[Angry Dragon]

6. Trump was out walking and kicked over a bunch of rocks

[countingbluecars]

7. When was the poll conducted

after his first, second, or third statement on Charlottesville?

[LeftInTX]

20. After the 3rd

It is a tracking poll. Done every single day.
Also his Rasmussen daily tracking poll went from 40 to 42.

The Gallup shows a sharp increase.

Most Americans, including 49% of Democrats do not want statues removed. I read that in a WaPo poll. The WaPo shows that Americans hate racists of all stripes, but don't want statues removed.

[DemocraticSocialist8]

32. There was a YouGov poll too

I hate to word it like this, but most of the opposition is coming from white Americans. Most of them conservative yes, but I'd imagine a number of white Democrats are against their removal too. Black people don't seem to care either way. The YouGov poll showed that 49% of Blacks either strongly agree or somewhat agree with their removal. Only a mere 11% of Blacks don't want them removed...those are basically your black right-wingers. However a MASSIVE 40% of Blacks have 'no opinion' which basically means "I don't care."

Here's a link to the YouGov poll via Vox...

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/8/17/16161366/poll-charlottesvilles-robert-e-lee-statue

As a black man, I can understand where some black people are coming from. For us, they've been up all this time and removing them now isn't necessarily going to change what was done in the past or what continues to be done in terms of policy in the present. Even though I understand that argument, I disagree with it. I'm in the 49% that wants them removed. They never should've been erected in the first place and the fact that 1,000+ emblems of the Confederacy live on across America is a problem. Schools are named after Confederate generals, military bases like Fort Bragg and Fort Benning are named after Confederates...not to mention the statues. They fucking lost! Why are there more statues named after traitors than people who fought against slavery?!?!

[madokie]

50. As an old white man

I apologize to you and every black person in the world for what the white man has done to you and yours. Native American, yes you all too. It wasn't right then and it ain't right now what the hell is going on. I honestly thought we were on the path of stomping out racism until we elected our first Black President. As soon as it looked like he had a chance the racist element of our society came crawling out of the woodwork. Just as sure as the moon will block out the sun momentarily tomorrow

My question is is Racism true with all nationalities? Are the Swedes racist? Are the Mexicans racist? Are the Japanese racist? On and on
As a member of the Human Race we can and must do better.

I'm a guy who every where I go, goes out of my way to make small talk with anyone who doesn't look like me to let them know that I love and respect them as a fellow human, that I see them as my brother or sister, not as an adversary. My heart hurts for all of us, we can and must do better. I know I already said that but I can't say it enough

Today I'm taking my last stroll through life and I'm not liking what I'm seeing. I worry for all those I leave behind. I hurt because I feel I didn't work hard enough, that I let my guard down after a few wins back in the sixties and seventies. I got complacent, but I never got comfortable with who I wound up being. mybad.

PEACE

May we join hands in solidarity in fighting this 'racism' cancer that is tearing us apart

[LiberalLoner]

53. Hear, hear!

[bagelsforbreakfast]

8. A lot more Nazis in America that we thought, eh? n/m

[Hieronymus]

11. America has reached a new low, thanks to Nazis.

[bagelsforbreakfast]

17. I look at that Michael Moore film WHERE TO INVADE NEXT and think...

Why don't we have a smart enough public to demand that good things other Western nations take for granted?

[diva77]

43. and thanks to Reagan for removing the fairness doctrine so that monsters like Rush Limberger

could dominate the airwaves with hate-talk and propaganda and historical revisionism

[Hoyt]

9. Too many Americans like racists and Nazis.

[cwydro]

15. Sadly.

Spot on.

[RKP5637]

26. Exactly! And many Americans IMO are naive about how many there are. n/t

[bdamomma]

36. Sad

if they knew their history and how the vile Nazis killed millions of people. What the hell is wrong with them, or is a scheme and Russia is pulling the strings. They love Russia/Putin too what is with that???

[JI7]

41. they do know the nazi history which is why they support them

[bdamomma]

58. what to kill people?

[TrishaJ]

55. No, I think it has to do with what he said

about removing the statues. I think he's getting a little bump of approval for that. I like to give the public a little credit on this one.

[PearliePoo2]

10. Gallup is a 3 day rolling poll.

Totaling disgusting support for this bastard.

[GoCubsGo]

12. They could have over-sampled republicans.

And, therefore his flying monkey cult followers. It's not unusual for that to happen, especially if they're doing landline telephone polls.

[Butterflylady]

13. I don't believe it.

[0rganism]

14. betting on margin of error for that one

we'll have to see if the trend is consistent with other polls

[Not Ruth]

16. Russia hacked Gallup

[FLPanhandle]

18. I live in a deep red area

I'm not surprised at all.

The people here don't give a damn about statues or Nazi's or who is to blame for violence.

What they care about is jobs and well-paying jobs at that. Until they become convinced that Trump isn't going to help in that area, they will support him.

Everything else is noise to them.

[Lurks Often]

21. Yup, not that I expect most here to accept your answer

[RKP5637]

27. I think that's quite true. Trump knew what to say to pull in the vote, but I doubt he will deliver.

[6000eliot]

33. What has he done about that to deserve their support?

He's done nothing but the racist clown show as far as I can tell. They must be fools if they think he can deliver on that empty promise.

[Motownman78]

44. Check back in after another

year and a half. If he hasn't done anything towards job creation by than, you will see a major loss in his support.

[FLPanhandle]

56. The point is, they still believe

It's too early for them to have given up hope, if nothing improves in the next 18 months, then that support will waver.

[DeminPennswoods]

47. Spot on

That's the way it is up here where I live in western PA, too.

[uponit7771]

52. Yeap

[Raine1967]

19. Give him a few days, he'll do what he always does --

and he will flop/drop back down. This is the Bannn bump--


8 days ago we were looking at nuclear war -- now we are focusing on the nazis. we are gonna have a new crisis next week.

[Yonnie3]

22. Most of that poll was after his sickening answers on the 15th too.

Did 3% of our country start approving of him because of the presser where he blamed the alt-left and noted the fine people with the swastikas?

Can't say.

Gallup says their margin of error is +/- 3%
Earlier poll +3 is 37%
Later poll -3% is 35%

We can't say there has been a change.

What is sickening is that number isn't 0%

[Bleacher Creature]

23. Probably just polling noise. Nt

[Orangepeel]

24. Random error

In any one given poll, there is going to be fluctuation because some outlying joker answered the phone. Polls with larger samples are better because that joker's answer has less weight if it's averaged with more people. A average of polls is better because it smooths out the idiosyncrasies.

If one poll says 34 and another says 38, it's *possible* his approval went up 4 points, but it is more likely his approval was really 36 on both days.

[democratisphere]

25. Favorable ratings from Nazis and racists.

Disgraceful.

[Stinky The Clown]

28. Statistical noise, I suspect.

Daily polling matters little. Trends matter.

[doc03]

29. Maybe what Steve Bannon said was true nt

[underpants]

30. He got votes from 20% of the population. It's the Dead of summer.

There are those who will never admit their mistake. Most don't think it was a mistake.

I could go on but basically his base number with adjustments to polls (to be fair you know) is 30%. He's barely above it.

[HopeAgain]

31. Don't underestimate how divided and entrenched

People in this country are.

[DemocraticSocialist8]

34. As leftists we have to come to grips with the fact that

many right-wingers simply don't care about racism and some actively push back against all claims of racism. That's a problem because that means they will support racist politicians as long as said racist politician doesn't hurt them. We've known this to be the case for years now...look at the Southern strategy and how effective it was! They've always been this way. I think now though, people on the Left who wanted to give them the benefit of the doubt for so many years are now beginning to realize how far gone many on the Right are.

[Motownman78]

45. If his supporters are racist

than why did so many in PA, MI, WI, and OH vote for Obama twice? Like someone mentioned about a YouGov poll, a plurality of even AA just don't care about the statues. All most people care about jobs, and that is what the Dumpster Fire ran and won on.

[DemocraticSocialist8]

48. Honestly I don't believe Trump won the 2016 election

I believe the election was stolen from Clinton just like 2000 was stolen from Gore. Only 2016 was MUCH worse than 2000. The more I see from this so-called President, the more I don't believe he won. 2016 was an attempted coup. Millions of non-white voters were labeled double voters across 28 states and potentially didn't have their votes counted. Look up Kris Kobach and CrossCheck. There has been a considerable amount written about it now.

I DO think you had conservative Obama voters vote for Trump because they didn't like Clinton, but I don't think that's the reason he won. He won because a LOT of votes weren't counted. It's why so many on the Left are now talking about the democratic threat of mass voter suppression.

2016 was almost certainly stolen. I think they wanted to maintain control of the Supreme Court at all costs and wanted to pass extremely draconian policies. The right-wing, demographically-speaking, is shrinking. It's going to reach a point where the only way they'll be competitive on a national level is by suppressing the vote of non-Whites. It's a MAJOR issue. A Top 3 issue IMHO.

[customerserviceguy]

35. Sampling sizes are probably too small

If you use small numbers of people to represent really large numbers of people, you'd better have a larger small number than a smaller small number.

Was I clear on that?

[Snake Plissken]

37. I wouldn't read too much into polls taken over the Summer months, when people are on vacation

They tend to swing wildly, after Labor Day will be a more realistic representation

[pstokely]

38. school has already started here

although some places don't go back until after Labor Day

[Snake Plissken]

39. Yeah but everyone is still in Summer mode, less people pay attention to the news in Summer

Even if Trump's freak show is playing nonstop around the clock

[Awsi Dooger]

40. It's unwise to expect additional decline

Not unless the economy and stock market tank.

Trump still receives benefit of a doubt from all the idiots who think he'll deliver superior jobs for themselves and particularly their children.

I don't think an impeachment proceeding would have much impact on that group.

[Azathoth]

42. He's at 80% support among GOPers

Fox and talk radio are in lockstep support. The small dip will disappear as the loyal cultists come back to fold.

[bearsfootball516]

51. Statistically speaking

Being at 80 percent at this point in your presidency is terrible. I've heard before that when the rating dips into the 70s, it's supposed to set off alarm bells for that party.

[DeminPennswoods]

46. There was going to be political blowback

Anyone who didn't think so was pretty naive.

[BSdetect]

49. There's a Fuckwit Production Line somewhere.

[krispos42]

54. he's hit the floor

And bouncing off of it. It's variations in the margin of error bouncing of his base.

Only way it will go lower is if a video surfaces of converting to Islam.

[Mc Mike]

57. Polls often attempt to influence reality, instead of reflect it.

Just an opinion.

[edsmith2727]

59. I think it's pretty clear from the election results that polls don't mean dick.