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Archae

(46,323 posts)
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 10:44 PM Jul 2012

Red Sox senior advisor says "media is to blame" for Paterno scandal, Paterno isn't.



Joe Paterno isn’t responsible for Jerry Sandusky’s continued criminal acts, according to legendary baseball statistician Bill James. The press is.

James, who is a Red Sox senior advisor for baseball operations, believes that Paterno, the former Penn State football coach, should be absolved of all blame for covering up former defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky’s sexual abuse of boys for years.

A report issued by ex-FBI director Louis Freeh this week said Paterno and school administrators “concealed critical facts” about Sandusky’s transgressions. But James blames the press, including a Sports Illustrated article, for putting Sandusky and his charitable organization for kids, Second Mile, on a pedestal.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/backpage/james_media_not_paterno_responsible_kt7sBXL64DK1Sn5iLbStRJ#ixzz20egeNKXk
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Red Sox senior advisor says "media is to blame" for Paterno scandal, Paterno isn't. (Original Post) Archae Jul 2012 OP
i guess it's maybe true that all jocks are dumbfucks spanone Jul 2012 #1
Delicious delicious ironing. mathematic Jul 2012 #5
Welcome to DU Ruby the Liberal Jul 2012 #7
Yeah, I know, par for the course. mathematic Jul 2012 #10
Your defense of PSU leadership caught my eye before your post count. Ruby the Liberal Jul 2012 #12
Oh I get it now. mathematic Jul 2012 #15
That, or it was in response to post #10 Ruby the Liberal Jul 2012 #16
I don't trash all jocks. Archae Jul 2012 #9
Bill James deserves all the criticism he gets for these comments mathematic Jul 2012 #11
Exactly. Archae Jul 2012 #13
Looking at Sanduskys face during the perp walk it looks like he feels victomized... uponit7771 Jul 2012 #2
Actually it's very simple. Archae Jul 2012 #3
That sick fuck wasn't feeling victimized, IMO. Ruby the Liberal Jul 2012 #8
BillJames is an idiot Angry Dragon Jul 2012 #4
And the Defense team for the Paterno estate calls Bill James as their next witness... Ruby the Liberal Jul 2012 #6
To put this in perspective: Downwinder Jul 2012 #14
The media didn't cover up Sandusky abusing kids, that's sound logic. Initech Jul 2012 #17

mathematic

(1,439 posts)
5. Delicious delicious ironing.
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 11:24 PM
Jul 2012

I could press my whole wardrobe with all this ironing.

Bill James has degrees in English, Economics, and Education and never played a game of baseball. It took a while for his ideas to take hold in baseball in part because he is NOT a jock. He's a nerd, through and through.

But do continue to wantonly trash sportsmen and sportswomen.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
12. Your defense of PSU leadership caught my eye before your post count.
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 12:05 AM
Jul 2012

Oops! Another sports analogy. My bad.

So, you think they are all being railroaded and deserve better as "sportsmen"?

mathematic

(1,439 posts)
15. Oh I get it now.
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 12:20 AM
Jul 2012

You weren't sincerely welcoming me. You were busting out your troll hunting gear and warning the good folks of DU. When troll hunters go wrong.

All I can do is recommend you carefully reread my post and the post I was responding to. You'll find I made no defense of the penn state leadership, anybody involved in the sandusky case, or anybody commenting on the sandusky case. You'll also note that the post I responded to made no mention of the penn state leadership, anybody involved in the sandusky case, or anybody commenting on the sandusky case (this last one being the ironic part, as the poster misidentifies Bill James as a dreaded "jock&quot .

Archae

(46,323 posts)
9. I don't trash all jocks.
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 11:50 PM
Jul 2012

But I still will trash this dipwit Bill James.

Blaming the media? I expect that from assholes like Rush Limbaugh or Bill O'Reilly.

mathematic

(1,439 posts)
11. Bill James deserves all the criticism he gets for these comments
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 12:04 AM
Jul 2012

Trashing jocks for something the non-jock Bill James said is, well, ridiculous. It's more of the same alienating "us" vs "them" nonsense combined with some mythical liberal identity of anti-jock.

Archae

(46,323 posts)
13. Exactly.
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 12:14 AM
Jul 2012

When I was in High School I hated all jocks since the ones I knew were jerks.

And they hated me because it was easy for me to get good grades.

Nowadays I judge jocks on what they do and how they act, like I judge all people.

Bill James isn't a jock, and he's an asshole.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
2. Looking at Sanduskys face during the perp walk it looks like he feels victomized...
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 10:48 PM
Jul 2012

...and so does the Paterno family.

I would love to know from a psychologist or someone why the Sanduskys and Paternos can't see the damage they've cause to so many people.

Archae

(46,323 posts)
3. Actually it's very simple.
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 10:50 PM
Jul 2012

They made tons of ca$h from Penn State's "Most Holy Football" program, and they are thus "above the rulz."

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
8. That sick fuck wasn't feeling victimized, IMO.
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 11:43 PM
Jul 2012

He was in complete shock. His love was pure, and people just don't understand it. Even his superiors agreed - they just told him they knew and asked that he not bring his "guests" (!!!!) into the showers anymore. As per the written records back in 2001.

He was dazed because no one but Curley, Paterno, Schultz and Spanier truly understood him.



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Angry Dragon

(36,693 posts)
4. BillJames is an idiot
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 10:57 PM
Jul 2012

is it the same press that James wants to push the Red Sox??


Perhaps we should treat all sports people the same as everyone else and not worry about if they had a homer, a touchdown, a big basket.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
6. And the Defense team for the Paterno estate calls Bill James as their next witness...
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 11:39 PM
Jul 2012

Hitching your horse to the wrong post, Bill. Let us know how that works out for ya.

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