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Sat Dec 31, 2011, 02:56 PM

Moore: Do something-anything-but don't remain silent- Not now-This is the moment-It won't come again

Michael Moore
75 Years Ago Today, the First Occupy

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Do something, anything, but don't remain silent. Not now. This is the moment. It won't come again.

75 years ago today, in Flint, Michigan, the people said they'd had enough and occupied the factories until they won. What is stopping us now? The rich have one plan: bleed everyone dry. Can anyone, in good conscience, be a bystander to this?

My uncle wasn't, and because of what he and others did, I got to grow up without having to worry about a roof over my head or medical bills or a decent life. And all that was provided by my dad who built spark plugs on a GM assembly line.

Let's each of us double our efforts to raise a ruckus, Occupy Everywhere, and get creative as we throw a major nonviolent wrench into this system of Greed. Let's make the politicians running for office in 2012 quake in their boots if they refuse to tax the rich, regulate Wall Street and do whatever we the people tell them to do.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-moore/occupy-everywhere_b_1176672.html?ref=yahoo&ir=Yahoo

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Reply Moore: Do something-anything-but don't remain silent- Not now-This is the moment-It won't come again (Original post)
kpete Dec 2011 OP
getdown Dec 2011 #1
rhett o rick Dec 2011 #3
rhett o rick Dec 2011 #2
orpupilofnature57 Dec 2011 #4
getdown Dec 2011 #5
rhett o rick Dec 2011 #6
getdown Dec 2011 #7
glinda Dec 2011 #8
getdown Dec 2011 #9
glinda Jan 2012 #19
getdown Jan 2012 #20
saras Jan 2012 #12
tooeyeten Jan 2012 #15
cherokeeprogressive Jan 2012 #22
Solly Mack Jan 2012 #10
Jakes Progress Jan 2012 #11
1stlady Jan 2012 #13
PA Democrat Jan 2012 #14
tooeyeten Jan 2012 #16
HangOnKids Jan 2012 #21
pinboy3niner Jan 2012 #17
snagglepuss Jan 2012 #18

Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Dec 31, 2011, 03:10 PM

1. quit buying their crap

 

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Response to getdown (Reply #1)

Sat Dec 31, 2011, 03:14 PM

3. Agree. This is important in more than one way. nm

 

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Dec 31, 2011, 03:13 PM

2. I agree, but we need to start discussing actual strategies and tactics.

 

I feel the most important goal is to get corruption out of the political system. Until that's done, everything else will be futile.
But that's my opinion. What ever you think is the most important issue, must be broadcast to the public. The media is our enemy and we need to figure out how to get our messages out in spite of them. Call representatives, email, print flyers and spread them around public places. Get your friends and family on board. Join DFA, moveon or PDA.

We must get the message out.

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #2)

Sat Dec 31, 2011, 03:19 PM

4. At least an Argument person to person with

 

anyone that denies the fact ,pointing out being a racist , Xenophobe is handing Our country over to the Meglomaniacs of our planet.

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #2)

Sat Dec 31, 2011, 03:19 PM

5. agreed

 

however appeals to Congress are compromised b/c they are.

Get the 1%ers out of Congress. Get the 5%ers out of Congress. Get the 11%ers out of Congress.

And take away their effin HEALTHCARE.

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Response to getdown (Reply #5)

Sat Dec 31, 2011, 05:11 PM

6. I agree that appealing to our representatives seems fruitless.

 

But I think it is a tool and we need to use it. Use everything.

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #6)

Sat Dec 31, 2011, 08:29 PM

7. ab so LUTE ly

 

make them earn their Congress kibble

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #2)

Sat Dec 31, 2011, 09:46 PM

8. We need a concerted organized method to cut funding those who make things worse. Like

getting the word out on who not to buy from, or what not to buy or what organization is actually what in it's intentions and on and on.

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Response to glinda (Reply #8)

Sat Dec 31, 2011, 10:43 PM

9. well that exists, right?

 

online?

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Response to getdown (Reply #9)

Sun Jan 1, 2012, 11:13 PM

19. Yes. Online. But wish it were more common knowledge.

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Response to glinda (Reply #19)

Sun Jan 1, 2012, 11:34 PM

20. good idea.

 

got time to do it?

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #2)

Sun Jan 1, 2012, 04:48 AM

12. Yep. And never mind the 'best'. We need a long list of 'good enough, pick any' tactics.

 

I suggest 'quit buying stuff' all the time. One reason is that it is one way, however indirect, to get corruption out of the political system. If Wal-Mart doesn't have the money to spend on politics, they won't spend it on right-wingers. Yes, this is a long-term hope, but so was ending slavery, or building the internet.

Surely there are more direct, more effective ways of ending corruption. Running for office is an obvious one, but not for everyone. Working for the local party is another, working with voting rights groups is another, exposing individual corrupt politicians and acts is another, and so on.

The internal problem for us is, of course, that we don't agree on directions and goals, so many tactics are great for some but problematic for others. I always thought that the purpose of the parties was to manage this process, to organize the tradeoffs necessary to get the various parts of a plan implemented.

The external problem for us is that our opponents at this time want to destroy everything social - to wipe our culture from the planet, and from the minds of our children - and to steal everything of economic value. Because of this, there is very little that we can offer them to assist in their 'plan' that seems like a reasonable compromise to the democratic population. NOTHING they want benefits any of us in the long run, and the short-term benefit is either that they destroy someone else instead of us, or they pay us some small portion of the booty for betraying a large number of ourselves.

Personally I think the party needs an explicitly stated policy of "We need to STOP these monsters, and so will oppose them at EVERY turn. Once they are defeated, we can then again consider instances where we may agree with particular actions, even if for different purposes, but until then we are at war and cannot afford to indulge them."

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #2)

Sun Jan 1, 2012, 01:23 PM

15. "corruption"

in the political system, is the money, "the greed" as MM points out. Citizens United is the enemy of full disclosure and America, time to turn Citizens United on their GOP head.

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #2)

Sun Jan 1, 2012, 11:56 PM

22. There is no way to get corruption out of the system without purging the current crop of politicians.

 

To say otherwise is like saying we're going to kick heroin while still hanging out with our junkie friends. It'll never work.

Our elected representatives care not a whit about us as people. To them we are merely votes. Their search for the next vote total begins on inauguration day and is financed by whatever corporation (or industry for that matter) they make the best promises to.

Personally I can't think of a single one of the 535 people who run our lives I'd like to see remain in office. Not one. No, I do not wish for republican rule, but neither do I think Dems are really on our side deep in their hearts.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Jan 1, 2012, 12:18 AM

10. k/r

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Jan 1, 2012, 12:20 AM

11. K&R even if you didn't read the memo.

Moore complained about something Obama did. So we can't do any thing he suggests. If we do, the haters win.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Jan 1, 2012, 05:51 AM

13. Yawn!!

 

Moore would probably kill himself, if he didn't have something to whine about constantly.

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Response to 1stlady (Reply #13)

Sun Jan 1, 2012, 10:34 AM

14. It's so sad that you can't see some of the great contributions Moore has made.

Sicko raised the awareness of many people about the deplorable state of health care in our country. Before the movie came out the main stream media NEVER covered the inhumane, immoral and greedy behavior of the health insurance industry.

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Response to PA Democrat (Reply #14)

Sun Jan 1, 2012, 01:25 PM

16. agree with you

Moore is on the side of Americans, not corporations.

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Response to 1stlady (Reply #13)

Sun Jan 1, 2012, 11:44 PM

21. Yawn

 

We've heard it all before. LOL!!!!!!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Jan 1, 2012, 02:14 PM

18. to read later

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