Hillary should get a medal for surviving 45 through the debates

[BigmanPigman]

and the campaign for that matter. I would have lost it after 20 seconds. He REALLY harassed her mentally and emotionally (and even physically...following her around the stage). Every time I hear more about what he did to her I want to hit something. Do they still make punching dolls like they used to with a clown on them? I need to purchase one. Of course I could just tape a photo of his ugly puss onto any generic one.

[cilla4progress]

1. Actually,

she should be awarded the Presidency since 1) they stole it; 2) she won.

[dalton99a]

10. +1

[niyad]

2. or you could put his pic over a pillow, and smack it with an old tennis racket. again and again,

until you feel a bit better. (goodwill, arc, etc. don't actually waste a good racket!!)

[meow2u3]

5. Personally, I'd like a dart board with his ugly mug on it

...or better yet, the Toxic Tangerine's pic on a dart board.

That would be cathartic!

[niyad]

6. that works too!

[Johonny]

3. She really crushed him in the debates.

There really is no excuse to have voted for Trump and those that did should be ashamed. Some are, too many aren't.

[AngryAmish]

16. You need to see this video that proves how badly she crushed Trump in the debates

Watch the whole thing. All of it. Every second is gold.

[FiveGoodMen]

4. I didn't watch the debates, but I saw clips of his performance on the news this morning

WHY THE FUCK DIDN'T THE MODERATOR STOP HIM??????

In what universe is that acceptable behavior? Especially in something as important as a presidential campaign.

That's not a rhetorical question.

If anyone knows what excuse was given for allowing that, I'd like to hear it.

[ProudLib72]

7. At that point she deserved it because...emails?

Two thoughts come to mind. First, his behavior was so far outside of normal that they didn't know what to do about it. Second, it is acceptable to treat women badly.

I really do think that we would have seen a different response if we had had a male candidate. That's not calling her run a mistake. It's just stating a nasty fact of our society's view of women.

[FiveGoodMen]

8. So, it was nothing to do with standards of behavior?

Just a judgment call by someone who didn't like Hillary?

Why not just allow one candidate to shoot the other live on stage? That would settle matters quickly (/sarc)

[ProudLib72]

9. It had already been established that his standard of behavior equated to that of a bully

And it was somehow acceptable. Remember, his popularity lay in the fact that he wasn't your "ordinary" politician. In fact, he wasn't even a politician at all. It wasn't so long ago that we listened to the stupid GOP meme that tRump could be forgiven for making huge mistakes because he didn't understand politics. So, yeah, I think these moderators were curious to see how far he would go. It gave the people the spectacle they wanted and boosted the TV ratings.

[FiveGoodMen]

11. You speak of this as though it were just an impromptu discussion held in the street somewhere

This was a scheduled, televised, moderated debate, right?

Why don't you believe there should be established rules to that?

[ProudLib72]

12. I'm not saying there should not be rules

I'm simply giving my take on why it happened. It was a combination of the TV stations wanting ratings, the acceptance of tRump's bully behavior, and misogynistic tendencies that culminated in letting tRump get away with his bullshit. Because of these three things, they bent the rules and let the debates become a travesty. No way in hell am I trying to normalize this or condone it in any way.

[karynnj]

13. Strongly disagree - look at Trump in the primaries, where he attacked several men

The prevailing idea before this election is that men need to be careful in appeaaring to attack a woman. Remember that in Clinton's Senate race, Lazio was completely trasked - not for being rather unimpressive -- but for being seen to invade her space when he wanted her to sign something.

2016 was beyond weird -- from the moment that Trump's announcement did not lead to condemnation. His history with women should have blown up his campaign -- as should his attack on McCain ... and many many other things. It is so werid, that any second quessing of an alternative Clinton response is problematic.

Something is wrong when a substantial percent of someone's supporters openly admit that he is not a good person.

[ProudLib72]

14. Just to clarify, I did not say it was a problem with HRC's response

I said it was acceptance of bullying by his base. You're right that he was called out on several occasions for his terrible behavior, but it seemingly had zero effect. I agree that there was nothing Hillary could have done differently. I mean, she finally stood up to him and his supporters when she came up with the "deplorables" term. Overnight, his supporters coopted the term and proudly identified themselves as deplorables.

2016 turned the model of the gracious candidate on its head. Remember, tRump actually used the "woman card" against Hillary? And it wasn't as if his misogyny was aimed at her. We had a whole series of incidents where it was made obvious. Still, it bore little relevance when it came down to the electorate deciding he was fit. It's just amazing the extent to which he proved he was unfit and still got support. My contention, then, is that the media was complicit to some extent in bolstering his image of an atypical (and therefore "good&quot choice.

[NurseJackie]

15. She deserves two!