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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGuardian: The alt-right hates women as much as it hates people of colour
(I often repeat the Germaine Greer quote that women have very little idea how much men hate them)NOTE: Article is from May 2017
Although best known for its white nationalist brand of racist ideology, theres growing recognition that patriarchal politics is also central to the movement. Several observers have pointed out that the alt-right advocates not just white supremacy, but more specifically white male supremacy, that the movement feeds on toxic resentment of women, and that sexism serves as a gateway drug pulling a lot of young men into it. The few alt-right women who have been profiled embrace their own subordination.
Missing from these accounts is a recognition that the alt-right is reshaping patriarchal politics. Its version of male supremacy is not just more explicit or aggressive its strikingly different from the version thats been dominant among US rightists for decades.
Consider abortion. Some alt-rightists, unsurprisingly, argue that abortion is simply immoral and should be banned. Yet many others in the movement disagree and for reasons that have nothing to do with respecting womens autonomy or privacy. These alt-rightists support legal abortion because, they claim, its disproportionately used by black and Latina women and, secondarily, because they see it as a way to weed out defective white babies. In other words, they support abortion as a form of eugenics. Both sides of this internal alt-right debate agree that women have no business controlling their own bodies. As Greg Johnson of the alt-right website Counter-Currents put it, in a White Nationalist society some abortions should be forbidden, others should be mandatory, but under no circumstances should they simply be a matter of a womans choice
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/may/02/alt-right-hates-women-non-white-trump-christian-right-abortion
CrispyQ
(36,457 posts)wryter2000
(46,037 posts)it's more counter culture. When I was growing up, it was mainstream.
wryter2000
(46,037 posts)No mistake there were almost no female faces among the Nazis and KKK-ers.
Le Gaucher
(1,547 posts)They love submissive types who do the following 3 things.
1) Feed him
2) Fuck him
3) And shut the Fuck up.
Still sickened that 53% of white women voted for the Con. WTF?
AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)what is the latest statistics on that
CousinIT
(9,239 posts)As for breaking it down by women, no idea.
I think many men are against it -- but they will never be in a position to want or need one so it's easy for them to oppose.
IronLionZion
(45,427 posts)and just how many conservative men admitted they are never ever going to have a wife or daughter who would need the coverage.
CousinIT
(9,239 posts)They're either madonnas or sluts. Never a human being needing health care. No conservative man wants to "pay for another man's kid" - when it's in the oven or out of it. And no conservative wants to pay for "sluts" to have sex. To them having sex for a woman isn't human, it's dirty. And having babies is just the cruel consequence (financially, physically and otherwise) these "sluts" deserve.
It's a crazy-ass goddamned attitude, but there it is.
Germaine Greer was right. Most women have no CLUE how much men hate them.
JI7
(89,247 posts)AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Been warning people on FB about this for a while anyway.
Basically the MRA's have found a sympathetic ear, and the hard right racists have extended a hand to them, as if in friendship, but it's entirely a recruiting strategy.
CousinIT
(9,239 posts)I believe it's true.
radius777
(3,635 posts)as the MRA's generally welcome men of any race into their ranks, and tend to laugh at the WN's as losers who pedestalize white women.
The connection is that both movements attract men with personal (and often mental) issues.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Skittles
(153,150 posts)sexism is far more pervasive than racism
CousinIT
(9,239 posts)You rarely hear it mentioned. Racism - you see/hear about it every day.
Skittles
(153,150 posts)and misogyny comes from people of ALL colors
JI7
(89,247 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)could be so filled with hatred. I just wanted to cry after reading some of the disgusting things those men said about her.