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CousinIT

(9,239 posts)
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 02:49 PM Aug 2017

Guardian: The alt-right hates women as much as it hates people of colour

(I often repeat the Germaine Greer quote that women have very little idea how much men hate them)

NOTE: Article is from May 2017

One hundred days on from Donald Trump entering the White House with its help, what will the alt-right do next? The small, loosely organised movement, which has helped to revitalise far-right politics in the United States, has made skilful use of internet activism and has a receptive ear in Trump’s chief strategist Steve Bannon, who as former head of Breitbart News once proclaimed his network “the platform of the alt-right”. More than shaping White House policy, however, the alt-right’s greatest impact may come from its efforts to shift the political culture.

Although best known for its white nationalist brand of racist ideology, there’s growing recognition that patriarchal politics is also central to the movement. Several observers have pointed out that the alt-right advocates not just white supremacy, but more specifically white male supremacy, that the movement feeds on “toxic resentment of women”, and that sexism serves as a “gateway drug” pulling a lot of young men into it. The few alt-right women who have been profiled embrace their own subordination.

Missing from these accounts is a recognition that the alt-right is reshaping patriarchal politics. Its version of male supremacy is not just more explicit or aggressive – it’s strikingly different from the version that’s been dominant among US rightists for decades.

Consider abortion. Some alt-rightists, unsurprisingly, argue that abortion is simply immoral and should be banned. Yet many others in the movement disagree – and for reasons that have nothing to do with respecting women’s autonomy or privacy. These alt-rightists support legal abortion because, they claim, it’s disproportionately used by black and Latina women and, secondarily, because they see it as a way to weed out “defective” white babies. In other words, they support abortion as a form of eugenics. Both sides of this internal alt-right debate agree that women have no business controlling their own bodies. As Greg Johnson of the alt-right website Counter-Currents put it, “in a White Nationalist society … some abortions should be forbidden, others should be mandatory, but under no circumstances should they simply be a matter of a woman’s choice


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/may/02/alt-right-hates-women-non-white-trump-christian-right-abortion
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Le Gaucher

(1,547 posts)
4. They dont hate all women.
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 02:55 PM
Aug 2017

They love submissive types who do the following 3 things.



1) Feed him
2) Fuck him
3) And shut the Fuck up.

CousinIT

(9,239 posts)
7. Most Americans favor access to safe legal abortion at least in some circumstances
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 03:33 PM
Aug 2017
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2017/08/trump_s_phoenix_speech_was_awful_he_should_keep_talking.html

As for breaking it down by women, no idea.

I think many men are against it -- but they will never be in a position to want or need one so it's easy for them to oppose.

IronLionZion

(45,427 posts)
9. It was very interesting to see how many opposed coverage for women's health insurance
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 05:44 PM
Aug 2017

and just how many conservative men admitted they are never ever going to have a wife or daughter who would need the coverage.

CousinIT

(9,239 posts)
13. It goes to how many men can't bring themselves to consider women human.
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 12:24 AM
Aug 2017

They're either madonnas or sluts. Never a human being needing health care. No conservative man wants to "pay for another man's kid" - when it's in the oven or out of it. And no conservative wants to pay for "sluts" to have sex. To them having sex for a woman isn't human, it's dirty. And having babies is just the cruel consequence (financially, physically and otherwise) these "sluts" deserve.

It's a crazy-ass goddamned attitude, but there it is.

Germaine Greer was right. Most women have no CLUE how much men hate them.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
8. They're co-opting the MRA populace into their ranks and, surprisingly, radicalizing them further.
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 05:42 PM
Aug 2017

Been warning people on FB about this for a while anyway.

Basically the MRA's have found a sympathetic ear, and the hard right racists have extended a hand to them, as if in friendship, but it's entirely a recruiting strategy.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
15. There is a connection, but also deep division,
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 01:07 AM
Aug 2017

as the MRA's generally welcome men of any race into their ranks, and tend to laugh at the WN's as losers who pedestalize white women.

The connection is that both movements attract men with personal (and often mental) issues.

CousinIT

(9,239 posts)
14. You may be right about that. Yet sexism isn't acknowledged nearly as much as racism is.
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 12:25 AM
Aug 2017

You rarely hear it mentioned. Racism - you see/hear about it every day.

Skittles

(153,150 posts)
16. no female president, yet we are over half the population
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 01:51 AM
Aug 2017

and misogyny comes from people of ALL colors

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
19. It made me physically ill. I honestly couldn't believe that people
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 03:58 AM
Aug 2017

could be so filled with hatred. I just wanted to cry after reading some of the disgusting things those men said about her.

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