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Do DUers realize that there was not one major US landfall hurricane (Original Post) malaise Aug 2017 OP
Surely pat robertson will tell us this hurricane is to show how god is displeased with trump, right? Eliot Rosewater Aug 2017 #1
Hehehehehhehe malaise Aug 2017 #2
Well if we're talking about the God of Karma, then...yeah. flibbitygiblets Aug 2017 #46
Gay marriage rpannier Aug 2017 #53
Heck no, it's the media's fault! catbyte Aug 2017 #54
I have the honor of Pat Robertson steering a hurricaine right at me JHB Aug 2017 #56
Perfect, I think God was displeased with somebody's Phoenix rant! MLAA Aug 2017 #3
My part of NC would beg to differ with you dsc Aug 2017 #4
But Matthew was Cat2 when it hit SC is not a major hurricane malaise Aug 2017 #6
Matthew hit around when Trump's pussy tape came out marylandblue Aug 2017 #9
Getting up off the floor malaise Aug 2017 #15
From Jeff Masters malaise Aug 2017 #12
35 inches of rain? Ligyron Aug 2017 #45
Yep I was reading that Harvey will stall from SUnday to Tuesday malaise Aug 2017 #50
It's heading for Texas which means marylandblue Aug 2017 #5
One of my beloved nephews and his family are in Houston malaise Aug 2017 #8
I have a friend in New Orleans marylandblue Aug 2017 #11
When I hear or read about the expected rain malaise Aug 2017 #17
eh..... Sgent Aug 2017 #48
Obama the Strong kept those storms away from us! mcar Aug 2017 #7
Hehehehehehe malaise Aug 2017 #10
If we follow the beliefs of his "religious" council mcar Aug 2017 #16
For our not acknowledging that he's the new messiah malaise Aug 2017 #19
Hurricane Sandy mia Aug 2017 #13
Sandy was not a hurricane when it hit the US - complicated one that malaise Aug 2017 #14
Thanks for the information. mia Aug 2017 #20
This is even better from NOAA during Sandy October 27, 2012 malaise Aug 2017 #32
Um, yeah. While Sandy was post-tropical by the time it hit NY/NJ... Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2017 #18
Jeff Masters is boss malaise Aug 2017 #21
Irene crazycatlady Aug 2017 #49
If you want to argue semantics, be my guest...everyone in NYC thinks of Sandy as a Hurricane... brooklynite Aug 2017 #22
Tell Jeff Masters and the other experts malaise Aug 2017 #25
You probably don't think Pluto is a planet either... brooklynite Aug 2017 #28
I defer to experts malaise Aug 2017 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author brooklynite Aug 2017 #27
In South Jersey, we call it Hurricane Sandy, not Tropical Storm Sandy. TheBlackAdder Aug 2017 #52
I don't think accuracy is the same as 'arguing semantics.' LanternWaste Aug 2017 #60
I am so thankful we have such a strong FEMA head now...nt GulfCoast66 Aug 2017 #23
Sandy was a Hurricane. SleeplessinSoCal Aug 2017 #24
It was a hurricane when it hit parts of Jamaica malaise Aug 2017 #26
agree to disagree SleeplessinSoCal Aug 2017 #37
While it was a Category 2 hurricane off the coast of the Northeastern United States... malaise Aug 2017 #38
image SleeplessinSoCal Aug 2017 #34
It was a hurricanee just not when it hit the US malaise Aug 2017 #41
Their god is striking America because all do not bow and worship the new jesus, RKP5637 Aug 2017 #30
Won't work malaise Aug 2017 #36
If you follow Al Gore, you had at least 20 years to prepare Not Ruth Aug 2017 #31
Indeed the inconvenient truths malaise Aug 2017 #33
This hurricane is probably one of those demons against Trump his fundies rant about lunasun Aug 2017 #35
K&R... spanone Aug 2017 #39
I thought Isaac Sgent Aug 2017 #40
Major is Cat3 and above malaise Aug 2017 #43
We're screwed ornotna Aug 2017 #42
Well let's hope it's not Bush2 malaise Aug 2017 #44
We're going to have plenty, now. The temperature is going to start rising fr global warming... Honeycombe8 Aug 2017 #47
Yep malaise Aug 2017 #51
I'm in SW houston, hot and clear day. watch on gov radar, looks to me like the weather out in gulf- Sunlei Aug 2017 #55
Stay safe malaise Aug 2017 #57
Thanks, looks like a weekend of heavy rain for the gulf coast. Sunlei Aug 2017 #58
Listen to the birds malaise Aug 2017 #59
Obama the hurricane protector! ghostsinthemachine Aug 2017 #61
Wishing everyone the best malaise Aug 2017 #62

JHB

(37,158 posts)
56. I have the honor of Pat Robertson steering a hurricaine right at me
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 09:35 PM
Aug 2017

(not really, but...)

Pat used his special connection to on high (y'know, his broadcast license) to pray that Hurricane Gloria not hit his locale, Virginia Beach.

Well, it didn't hit VB, but it did hit Long Island (NY). The eye passed right over where I was.

malaise

(268,952 posts)
6. But Matthew was Cat2 when it hit SC is not a major hurricane
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 07:17 PM
Aug 2017

I remember because we still don't know how Matthew missed us in Jamaica.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
9. Matthew hit around when Trump's pussy tape came out
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 07:19 PM
Aug 2017

So God must have bee expressing his displeasure with Trump.

malaise

(268,952 posts)
12. From Jeff Masters
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 07:26 PM
Aug 2017

Surging beyond tropical storm strength on Thursday, Hurricane Harvey is projected to become the first major hurricane (Category 3 or stronger) to strike the United States in almost 12 years. A Hurricane Warning is in effect from Port Mansfield to Sargent, Texas, including the Corpus Christi area, with a Storm Surge Warning from Port Mansfield north to High Island and a Hurricane Watch southward to the Mexico border and. Harvey poses an unusually complex, multifaceted, prolonged, and dangerous threat over the next several days to parts of South Texas, including the central TX coastline as well as locations well inland. Localized multi-day rainfall amounts could be as much as 35", according to the National Hurricane Center (NHC).

https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/intensifying-harvey-track-hit-texas-major-hurricane

Ligyron

(7,629 posts)
45. 35 inches of rain?
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 08:28 PM
Aug 2017

I can't even imagine what that would do.

We got 17 inches over two days here in south florida back a decade ago and 50% of everywhere one went was flooded. Standing water everywhere.

Throw 35 inches of rain into some elevation and it would be biblical.

malaise

(268,952 posts)
50. Yep I was reading that Harvey will stall from SUnday to Tuesday
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 08:47 PM
Aug 2017

Homes and businesses will be heading down those rivers and since orecasts are now suggesting Houston is in for a rough ride, this could be very bad.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
5. It's heading for Texas which means
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 07:14 PM
Aug 2017

If we had built a high enough wall, it would have kept the hurricane out.

malaise

(268,952 posts)
8. One of my beloved nephews and his family are in Houston
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 07:19 PM
Aug 2017

I wish I could stop it for the poor folks in Texas, but I'm all for anything that damages the bigly ego.

The water would eclipse his wall.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
11. I have a friend in New Orleans
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 07:24 PM
Aug 2017

They are expecting 5 to 10 inches of rain, and once again, the city is not ready for it.

malaise

(268,952 posts)
17. When I hear or read about the expected rain
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 07:29 PM
Aug 2017

I don't know who is prepared for that - parts of Texas are expecting close to three feet of rain.

Sgent

(5,857 posts)
48. eh.....
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 08:34 PM
Aug 2017

We are operating at about 85% of overall capacity as of today, and have 2 levels of backups for power generation -- both generators and the 60hz system if our power plant goes down (we have a 25hz plant for the water pumps) vs 1 2 weeks ago. In addition, keep in mind that these are the pumps meant from dewatering the city once flooded (ie rain), not pumps related to the levee system which prevent tidal surge -- which almost certainly not be used for this hurricane. There will probably be localized flooding like there was a few weeks ago, but it will be nothing like the flooding during a Katrina event.

I'm still unbelievably upset that some IDIOT(s) in the SW&B took more than 20% of the system offline during the height of hurricane season for SCHEDULED maintenance, and the more that comes out on the management issues the more I want to scream. Everyone thinks its a major issue of cronyism, but imho its more that its just rank incompetence. The director of the drainage system -- 4 levels down from the mayor --- didn't even KNOW that there were pumps and turbines (electricity) out before the storm, and we had a turbine that had been out for 6 years........

Note -- NO SW&B uses 25hz pumps for moving water (potable, sewerage and drainage), and has its own power plant which dates from pre WWI. The design is from the 1800's. The reason the city hasn't moved over to 60hz is because pumps like water pumps are much more effective at 25hz -- meaning that the system is only about 60% as effective on these types of pumps. When working correctly, its one of the engineering marvels of its age, and still hasn't been replicated.

malaise

(268,952 posts)
10. Hehehehehehe
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 07:20 PM
Aug 2017

All I know is them lil hands have no such power - nature must hate the Con of a scumbag.

mcar

(42,307 posts)
16. If we follow the beliefs of his "religious" council
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 07:29 PM
Aug 2017

Such storms are God's punishment for blah, blah.

malaise

(268,952 posts)
14. Sandy was not a hurricane when it hit the US - complicated one that
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 07:27 PM
Aug 2017
https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/intensifying-harvey-track-hit-texas-major-hurricane

Surging beyond tropical storm strength on Thursday, Hurricane Harvey is projected to become the first major hurricane (Category 3 or stronger) to strike the United States in almost 12 years. A Hurricane Warning is in effect from Port Mansfield to Sargent, Texas, including the Corpus Christi area, with a Storm Surge Warning from Port Mansfield north to High Island and a Hurricane Watch southward to the Mexico border and. Harvey poses an unusually complex, multifaceted, prolonged, and dangerous threat over the next several days to parts of South Texas, including the central TX coastline as well as locations well inland. Localized multi-day rainfall amounts could be as much as 35", according to the National Hurricane Center (NHC).

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,181 posts)
18. Um, yeah. While Sandy was post-tropical by the time it hit NY/NJ...
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 07:30 PM
Aug 2017

...it still had all the power and punch of a Hurricane.

And I seem to remember a fairly significant hurricane hitting the mid Atlantic a year or two before Sandy.

malaise

(268,952 posts)
21. Jeff Masters is boss
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 07:32 PM
Aug 2017

Surging beyond tropical storm strength on Thursday, Hurricane Harvey is projected to become the first major hurricane (Category 3 or stronger) to strike the United States in almost 12 years. A Hurricane Warning is in effect from Port Mansfield to Sargent, Texas, including the Corpus Christi area, with a Storm Surge Warning from Port Mansfield north to High Island and a Hurricane Watch southward to the Mexico border and. Harvey poses an unusually complex, multifaceted, prolonged, and dangerous threat over the next several days to parts of South Texas, including the central TX coastline as well as locations well inland. Localized multi-day rainfall amounts could be as much as 35", according to the National Hurricane Center (NHC).

https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/intensifying-harvey-track-hit-texas-major-hurricane

I suspect Dumbya had the most for any President

crazycatlady

(4,492 posts)
49. Irene
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 08:45 PM
Aug 2017

Funny thing is that a mini golf course on a boardwalk near me (the golf course was renovated/changed ownership after Sandy) has two prop ships on it. The big one is Sandy and the smaller one is Irene.

Irene hit around this time in 2011. About 14 months before Sandy. Spring Lake, NJ has its boardwalk destroyed, rebuilt for the following year only to have it taken out by Sandy.

brooklynite

(94,508 posts)
22. If you want to argue semantics, be my guest...everyone in NYC thinks of Sandy as a Hurricane...
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 07:40 PM
Aug 2017

...and I remember setting up an evacuation shelter for Hurricane Irene.

malaise

(268,952 posts)
25. Tell Jeff Masters and the other experts
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 07:47 PM
Aug 2017

We debated this during Sandy - it was post-tropical.

Surging beyond tropical storm strength on Thursday, Hurricane Harvey is projected to become the first major hurricane (Category 3 or stronger) to strike the United States in almost 12 years. A Hurricane Warning is in effect from Port Mansfield to Sargent, Texas, including the Corpus Christi area, with a Storm Surge Warning from Port Mansfield north to High Island and a Hurricane Watch southward to the Mexico border and. Harvey poses an unusually complex, multifaceted, prolonged, and dangerous threat over the next several days to parts of South Texas, including the central TX coastline as well as locations well inland. Localized multi-day rainfall amounts could be as much as 35", according to the National Hurricane Center (NHC).

https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/intensifying-harvey-track-hit-texas-major-hurricane

Response to brooklynite (Reply #22)

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
60. I don't think accuracy is the same as 'arguing semantics.'
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 12:20 PM
Aug 2017

I don't think accuracy is the same as 'arguing semantics.'

There is in fact, a precise and relevant difference between the two. Good luck!

malaise

(268,952 posts)
26. It was a hurricane when it hit parts of Jamaica
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 07:48 PM
Aug 2017

Cuba and the Bahamas but it was post-tropical when it reached the US

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,112 posts)
37. agree to disagree
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 08:03 PM
Aug 2017

"......While it was a Category 2 hurricane off the coast of the Northeastern United States, the storm became the largest Atlantic hurricane on record (as measured by diameter, with winds spanning 1,100 miles (1,800 km)). Estimates as of 2015 assessed damage to have been about $75 billion (2012 USD), a total surpassed only by Hurricane Katrina....."

RKP5637

(67,105 posts)
30. Their god is striking America because all do not bow and worship the new jesus,
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 07:56 PM
Aug 2017

Groper Don the Con the stupid incompetent fuck!!!

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
35. This hurricane is probably one of those demons against Trump his fundies rant about
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 08:02 PM
Aug 2017

They could all just chant "out demon" at the Golf waters and pray I thought
????

In actual reality though, I hope the people in its path are helped and stay safe and our country's resources used to aid the area properly before and after the hurricane

Sgent

(5,857 posts)
40. I thought Isaac
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 08:09 PM
Aug 2017

was a hurricane when it hit land. Certainly knocked out power for two weeks in metro New Orleans and sucked royally. Down parish and outside the levees it flooded some.

It just was a Cat 1 though so it didn't get as much attention.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
47. We're going to have plenty, now. The temperature is going to start rising fr global warming...
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 08:31 PM
Aug 2017

with all the new fossil fuel and other crap spewing into the environment. It only takes 1 or 2 degrees.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
55. I'm in SW houston, hot and clear day. watch on gov radar, looks to me like the weather out in gulf-
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 09:24 PM
Aug 2017

moves towards tx/mexico border. local media is going crazy with 'possible' 'maybe' 'worse case' 20 inches of rain & 80MPH winds. ,

stores are packed with shoppers stripping the shelves. 20 inches of rain will have downtown Houston underwater, anyone with homes near the bayous (drainage ditches) will flood again.

I hate climate change near the gulf, extreme rain, always hot and humid. Standing water brewing flesh eating bacteria with 'rafts of invasive African fire ants floating around.

worse case-my cell phones in an otter case, grab my credit card and dogs and call an uber van go north to some nice hotel with air conditioning and a bar

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
58. Thanks, looks like a weekend of heavy rain for the gulf coast.
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 09:36 AM
Aug 2017

I think Houston area can deal with 20+ inches if it's spread out over a couple of days. So far our bad weather warning dog, "Jimmy" is calm & happy.

ghostsinthemachine

(3,569 posts)
61. Obama the hurricane protector!
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 03:27 PM
Aug 2017

Yeah. Wonder how FEMAs response will be. Hope its adequate for the people's sake.

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