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NC_Nurse

(11,646 posts)
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 08:54 AM Jul 2012

Is anyone else watching Up with Chris Hayes? Excellent show today

on financial industry fraud. They have the guy from Bain, Conard, that is an apologist for overcompensation of the 1%. He's getting his ass handed to him. Awesome.

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Is anyone else watching Up with Chris Hayes? Excellent show today (Original Post) NC_Nurse Jul 2012 OP
I DVR both of his shows every weekend...The best!..n/t whathehell Jul 2012 #1
Agreed. I have given up on other shows. His is the one worth watching. NC_Nurse Jul 2012 #2
I haven't watched MTP or the others since these shows started Atman Jul 2012 #9
I still can't believe the gall of Tim Russert UnrepentantLiberal Jul 2012 #27
Do you mean the Sunday Morning Talk shows? whathehell Jul 2012 #34
I'm waiting for the Bain guy malaise Jul 2012 #3
The young woman on the panel doesn't take any crap tularetom Jul 2012 #4
Waiting for Chris to ask the Bain guy about Romney .... Tennessee Gal Jul 2012 #5
Here we go malaise Jul 2012 #8
Yep, here it comes! Tennessee Gal Jul 2012 #10
Conard just said Romney's GREED took 3 yrs of negotiation ProgressiveEconomist Jul 2012 #17
He does look rather perturbed, doesn't he? (ha) madashelltoo Jul 2012 #6
It is so refreshing to see people stand up to these bullshitters and not NC_Nurse Jul 2012 #7
The Bain guy is adding nothing to the discussion malaise Jul 2012 #11
Conrad is a mouthpiece Motown_Johnny Jul 2012 #12
Based on the BS he has been spewing malaise Jul 2012 #15
Took a long time .... had to establish value .... Tennessee Gal Jul 2012 #13
Conard explicitly said "it took three years". IMO that's NEWS. See post #17 above. ProgressiveEconomist Jul 2012 #23
Conard says: madashelltoo Jul 2012 #14
I call Bullshit malaise Jul 2012 #20
Shady at best lobodons Jul 2012 #22
Conrad just contradicted himself. Tennessee Gal Jul 2012 #16
That was interesting pinboy3niner Jul 2012 #19
This guy is a Romney supporter. He just had a whopper of a talking point GusFring Jul 2012 #18
ROBME IS "NOT" PROUD OF IT BECAUSE madashelltoo Jul 2012 #21
More on this Scumbag malaise Jul 2012 #25
Did chris ask him who he supports? That outsourcing quote was evil. GusFring Jul 2012 #24
THE SEGMENT CHRIS READ FROM CONARD'S BOOK madashelltoo Jul 2012 #26
We pay lower wages, we are not responsible for their healthcare, safety, etc." CTyankee Jul 2012 #28
"We can use that country as a toilet & not have to clean the crap" paraphrased. He was proud of that AnotherMother4Peace Jul 2012 #30
Right to the very heart of the issue! Well said! lonestarnot Jul 2012 #33
Funny reading the responses on FB Atman Jul 2012 #29
Yes, I agree - he let him talk about Bain & that Romney should be proud of his work at Bain AnotherMother4Peace Jul 2012 #32
I wish veganlush Jul 2012 #31
Does this show repeat? senseandsensibility Jul 2012 #35

Atman

(31,464 posts)
9. I haven't watched MTP or the others since these shows started
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 09:15 AM
Jul 2012

I've tried, but they are so insipid, so in-balanced in any way, so totally devoid of facts, they're just unwatchable after you seen UP and MHP.

The "old" Sunday shows are nothing more than campaign stops for the candidates, which is why you rarely see any of them on UP or MHP...they have to sit and answer real questions from people who aren't automatically friendly to their positions.

 

UnrepentantLiberal

(11,700 posts)
27. I still can't believe the gall of Tim Russert
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 10:01 AM
Jul 2012

saying that he let Chimpy's pals lie to him about the need to invade Iraq so they would be caught in a lie latter.

What a country.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
34. Do you mean the Sunday Morning Talk shows?
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 02:14 PM
Jul 2012

I've given up on most of those as well, but I do

like a lot of the evening MSNBC shows, as well as Martin Bashir.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
4. The young woman on the panel doesn't take any crap
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 09:01 AM
Jul 2012

And she seems to have numbers to back up her statements.

ProgressiveEconomist

(5,818 posts)
17. Conard just said Romney's GREED took 3 yrs of negotiation
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 09:28 AM
Jul 2012

about the terms of his departure to satisfy.

Remember, Romney owned 100 percent of Bain capital stock, and Bain profits averaged 88 percent over a long stretch of deals. Monetizing those kinds of gains puts a huge multiple on the amount of capital Mitt originally supplied, so huge that the partners could argue over just how huge for YEARS.

The words Conard put in Mitt's mouth are:

"i've created a tremendously valuable firm that's making all you guys rich".

madashelltoo

(1,696 posts)
6. He does look rather perturbed, doesn't he? (ha)
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 09:10 AM
Jul 2012

I bet he thought he was coming in as the sharpest knife in the drawer, but the young lady is handling him with ease. I'm loving it. His eyes are rolling around as only the entitled can.

NC_Nurse

(11,646 posts)
7. It is so refreshing to see people stand up to these bullshitters and not
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 09:14 AM
Jul 2012

let them get away with platitudes about how great the US is. Bill Black has got the facts and the studies that refute EVERY point this guy makes. Wouldn't it be great if all of the news shows had REAL debates?

malaise

(268,943 posts)
11. The Bain guy is adding nothing to the discussion
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 09:21 AM
Jul 2012

except that he too can't recall.
Taking a long time my ass!!!
What a waste of time Edward Conard.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
12. Conrad is a mouthpiece
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 09:23 AM
Jul 2012

not even any new talking points.



He does stay on message very well, I have got to give him that.

Tennessee Gal

(6,160 posts)
13. Took a long time .... had to establish value ....
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 09:25 AM
Jul 2012

others to consider ..... blah, blah, blah .... yada, yada, yada ....

Okay, specifically on what date did they come to terms for his separation from Bain? That date would determine how long he was still working there. And his name and signature was still on SEC documents until when?

ProgressiveEconomist

(5,818 posts)
23. Conard explicitly said "it took three years". IMO that's NEWS. See post #17 above.
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 09:39 AM
Jul 2012

IMO that's NEWS. See post #17 above.

Conard just supplied ammunition for ads that would turn Romney into Gordon Gekko.

madashelltoo

(1,696 posts)
14. Conard says:
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 09:26 AM
Jul 2012

"Romney left in 1999 and the 'partners' ran the company. Who are the partners? There are no partners listed on the SEC documents. And, there are other agreements with Rmoney's signature other than the SEC. Individual transactions. He's lying for his boy. Not convincing me though.

Again with the "I don't recall him coming back." It took them three years to negotiate his leaving. Well, then that means he was still there and he was still the responsible party. This is bullshit.

malaise

(268,943 posts)
20. I call Bullshit
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 09:31 AM
Jul 2012

one more paid hack - expect to see him more often.

Yes Willard was so proud that he's lying about the dates.

 

lobodons

(1,290 posts)
22. Shady at best
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 09:36 AM
Jul 2012

Seems a little shady that undisclosed partners are making all the decisions and nobody knows who they are.

Tennessee Gal

(6,160 posts)
16. Conrad just contradicted himself.
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 09:27 AM
Jul 2012

Earlier he said he did not remember Mitt attending any meetings. He just said he attended the meetings and he never saw Mitt.

What is the truth, Conrad?

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
19. That was interesting
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 09:30 AM
Jul 2012

First he said, "Do I remember every single meeting? No." Later, he says he attended all mgt mtgs and "Mitt was never there."

madashelltoo

(1,696 posts)
21. ROBME IS "NOT" PROUD OF IT BECAUSE
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 09:35 AM
Jul 2012

He knows the public will hate him for it. He will never own up to what they've done. They want us to believe them and they are lying more and more to cover up the fact that he owned and operated and approved of every transaction. Robme is the man.

madashelltoo

(1,696 posts)
26. THE SEGMENT CHRIS READ FROM CONARD'S BOOK
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 09:45 AM
Jul 2012

is the reason why we find what they did in off shoring or outsourcing so despicable. He could say with ease, "We pay lower wages, we are not responsible for their healthcare, safety, etc." They exploit these people with no qualms at all and take jobs away from America because we demand respect from our employers. This man is making me sick to my stomach.

They think this is a dog days of summer issue, well, it's not. It is the reason why we are in the mess we are in. They will find slaves if it's the last thing they do. No, they won't bring them home, like they did with African Americans, where they might one day rise up to confront them on their own soil. They will work them to death and step over their carcasses in foreign countries. Fucking pigs!

CTyankee

(63,903 posts)
28. We pay lower wages, we are not responsible for their healthcare, safety, etc."
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 10:18 AM
Jul 2012

I wonder how that statement squares with the American voter. My guess is that he/she will ask "where does all this leave me and my family?"

Nobody on the panel addressed that question. I wish they had.

A great show. NO ONE else on the networks or cable is talking about this.

AnotherMother4Peace

(4,242 posts)
30. "We can use that country as a toilet & not have to clean the crap" paraphrased. He was proud of that
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 10:56 AM
Jul 2012

I can't refer to that evil being as a gentleman, more like a monster - AND to think that he's proud of what he did at Bain, and he says Mitt Romney should be proud of these "accomplishments". Pretty disgusting

Atman

(31,464 posts)
29. Funny reading the responses on FB
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 10:32 AM
Jul 2012

Not nearly as friendly a response. Quite a few people think Hayes went to easy on Conard. It was pointed out, and I believe rightly, that if he had truly gone for the jugular, Conard would have clammed up and gone the defensive. Instead, Hayes generally put his at ease and let the rope out gradually with which to hang himself. It's hard to say how anyone could think this made Conard -- or Romney -- look good.

AnotherMother4Peace

(4,242 posts)
32. Yes, I agree - he let him talk about Bain & that Romney should be proud of his work at Bain
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 11:52 AM
Jul 2012

AND then he read that excerpt from his book. The excerpt refers to the advantages of outsourcing: unregulated polluting, exploitation of workers, no government interference, no accountability..... That made the guy squirm - & I think that excerpt should be used against Romney.

veganlush

(2,049 posts)
31. I wish
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 10:58 AM
Jul 2012

there was an audio podcast of his show, like there is for Maddow and for at least part of Hardball.

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