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https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/reports-conditions-deteriorating-across-coastal-texas-as-harvey-nears-landfall/700025639:50 p.m. CDT Friday: Several buildings have collapsed in Rockport, Texas with people trapped inside, emergency managers report.
The eye of Harvey is beginning to move over Rockport, allowing winds to temporarily decrease. However, winds will pick up once the eye wall moves back over the town.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)malaise
(268,961 posts)Sadly many people refused to evacuate
sheshe2
(83,748 posts)I posted earlier tonight that CNN reported that officials told those that refused to evacuate write their name and SS# on their arm so they could be identified.
Now people are going to risk their life to save them. Why did they not leave? They knew this was going to be bad.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)sheshe2
(83,748 posts)Why do you not tell me?
Many went to shelter in the Superdome. We all no how well that worked out.
Why was Bush unprepared.
Read this.
Five Days at Memorial: Book Chronicles Euthanasia of Patients During Hurricane Katrina
https://www.amazon.com/Five-Days-Memorial-Storm-Ravaged-Published/dp/B00HMVX8VS/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_14_img_0/134-4993452-3266923?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=4HF2D833B2C9FRQ65Y23
malaise
(268,961 posts)Selfish Aholes
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)Plus the homeless.
Ain't no rich sportsman oilman dudes and their fams saying hey let's just stay here in Rockport.
malaise
(268,961 posts)Many probably didn't have the resources
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)I forgot to mention the addicts, drunks, and plain crazy folk.
Sugar land here (s w Houston suburb), so far so good. We have some peeps in Corpus - they've evacuated. The whole campus of A&M Corpus was evacuated - the campus is on its own barrier island. My baby's alma mater 2015. They bus the kids out. Some stayed though.
malaise
(268,961 posts)I'm glad they evacuated the campus - better to be safe than sorry.
Cuba has the best model for hurricane evacuations across our hemisphere but they understand community.
femmedem
(8,201 posts)This is heartbreaking.
I don't understand the psychology of staying, either. Afraid of losing their jobs? Afraid of being stranded and not able to get back? Nowhere to bring their pets? Gas stations out of gas by the time they realized how bad it would be? No money for lodging and food on the road? (That's probably a big one.)
But most likely they'd never been through a major hurricane before and didn't understand how terrifying and dangerous they are.
sheshe2
(83,748 posts)How ugly is that? That does not account for all, some to stubborn to leave. This is a Cat4 with 40 inches of rain...5 days duration and they are on the damn coast!
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)Utter venom
Not Ruth
(3,613 posts)Not understanding the logic
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)Hangingon
(3,071 posts)We evacuated yesterday and it then became mandatory. The stay-behinds we know have all left. I am sure dome did but I don't believe 65%.
sheshe2
(83,748 posts)jpak
(41,757 posts)But if you have an expensive beach house that's damaged?
FEMA throw you bags of cash all day long.
yup
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)No, they are not, during the storm, nope.
Back in 1994 or so, when Mobile got hit by a hurricane, the mayor and the Sheriff broadcast that evacuation was required, and went to door to door as much as they could and said the same thing to people near the shore, told them to write their names and SS#, even that did not make them leave.
and then, at night, at height of the storm and wind and rain, the 9-11 calls came in, people demanding the sheriff etc come out and get them.
Of course they could not go out and get people, the streets were flooded.
Mobile floods easily in certain parts of town and even more floods during a hurricane.
a lot of folks who survived said they shoulda evacuated and next time they would.
Takket
(21,563 posts)said she was not evacuating because most people don't know what they are doing, but she knows what she is doing, so she is going to stay.
I... I don't get it... the very fact you would stay s every indication that you do NOT know what you are doing.
I don't know what she plans on doing if he roof gets torn off or a wall of water comes through her door.
Not Ruth
(3,613 posts)Should have listened to Al Gore
femmedem
(8,201 posts)That was the most serious call to evacuation I've ever heard.
I'm a coward. I keep multiple cat carriers in my closet so if I ever need to, I can evacuate all the critters with me. (I live in a coastal city in Connecticut.)
malaise
(268,961 posts)I think you listen to experts.
unc70
(6,112 posts)Jeff P was streaming live on Periscope from Rockport as eyewall came ashore. Building where they were parked sort of blew up. I think they are ok, but scary video
Ilsa
(61,694 posts)Badly damaged by high winds and debris.
herding cats
(19,564 posts)It was originally reported as a total loss but then a person who saw it says a portion collapsed.
This is the hotel the media and storm chasers were staying in in Rockport.
Link to tweet
They've since evacuated in an attempt to find a safer place before the eye passed. They were afraid the building would collapse once the back wall hit.
Video of some of the news crews before they knew the extent of the damage.
https://m.
jpak
(41,757 posts)haele
(12,649 posts)If Rockport is a typical small coastal town supporting fishing or the shipping, there's probably a lot of old timers without reliable vehicles and no place to go even if they had one. Their lives are wrapped up in their (most likely) uninsured home and small pension or Social Security to support them.
They stay and take their chances because there's nothing else for them but returning to nothing if they do leave.
Sad, but it's the tragedy of their life, and they see the rest of the country doesn't care enough to elect people who would provide a safety net for them.
Haele
herding cats
(19,564 posts)This one was around an hour ago. He mentions some of the damage and people calling for help.
https://www.pscp.tv/Jeff_Piotrowski/1MYGNXLlaYQxw
Edit to add his twitter with all his posts from tonight.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Jeff_Piotrowski
Saboburns
(2,807 posts)This is a killer storm. It strengthened very quickly and very, very late.
And the flooding is supposed to be the worst part. Historic flooding that is to last weeks. Yes plural. Weeks.
I got a bad feeling regarding deaths and damage.
This could be as bad as Katrina. Or worse.
CCExile
(468 posts)Hey, I'm alive! No coffe, but alive!
Tanuki
(14,918 posts)Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Also, welcome to DU! And stay safe!