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NRaleighLiberal

(60,014 posts)
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 11:15 PM Aug 2017

Harvey news - on Accuweather site - damage report from Rockport

https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/reports-conditions-deteriorating-across-coastal-texas-as-harvey-nears-landfall/70002563

9:50 p.m. CDT Friday: Several buildings have collapsed in Rockport, Texas with people trapped inside, emergency managers report.
The eye of Harvey is beginning to move over Rockport, allowing winds to temporarily decrease. However, winds will pick up once the eye wall moves back over the town.

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Harvey news - on Accuweather site - damage report from Rockport (Original Post) NRaleighLiberal Aug 2017 OP
I just checked wa post, found this. :( uppityperson Aug 2017 #1
Yes they appear to have got the worst of the initial landfall malaise Aug 2017 #2
65% refused. sheshe2 Aug 2017 #3
Why did many not leave New Orleans? Roland99 Aug 2017 #4
Well, Roland? sheshe2 Aug 2017 #11
I saw your post malaise Aug 2017 #5
Poor people. Disabled. Elderly. elehhhhna Aug 2017 #23
My bad malaise Aug 2017 #25
We should do it like Cuba but we don't. elehhhhna Aug 2017 #26
Stay safe malaise Aug 2017 #29
omg. I didn't know that many people stayed. femmedem Aug 2017 #7
Part may be that dumps ice team were going to demand their papers. sheshe2 Aug 2017 #8
What was the logic of checkpointing people fleeing to Mexico? elehhhhna Aug 2017 #24
If you get check pointed fleeing to Mexico, don't you still end up in Mexico? Not Ruth Aug 2017 #32
Private detention companies have quarterly profits to meet elehhhhna Aug 2017 #34
Wonder where the 65% number came from. Hangingon Aug 2017 #9
Take it up with CNN sheshe2 Aug 2017 #15
Evacuation is expensive - and you get nothing from FEMA jpak Aug 2017 #17
"Now people are going to risk their life to save them" dixiegrrrrl Aug 2017 #12
i saw a older woman on TV today... Takket Aug 2017 #13
They had 20 years warning! Not Ruth Aug 2017 #31
Even after their mayor told them to write their social security #s on their arms if they stayed. femmedem Aug 2017 #6
I don't think you're a coward malaise Aug 2017 #22
Three storm chasers in Rockport when building collapsed unc70 Aug 2017 #10
Unconfirmed report that thd rockport high school had been Ilsa Aug 2017 #14
Partial collapse is what is being said. herding cats Aug 2017 #20
They are now in the eye - the wind returns in 20 minutes jpak Aug 2017 #16
A lot of people don't evacuate because they can't afford to. haele Aug 2017 #18
Jeff Piotrowsk (emmy winning storm chaser) is posting periscope vids from Rockport. herding cats Aug 2017 #19
Sustained winds over 130 mph, gusts to 150 mph Saboburns Aug 2017 #21
In Corpus Christi... CCExile Aug 2017 #27
Thanks for checking in! Glad you are ok. Tanuki Aug 2017 #28
Hang in there Achilleaze Aug 2017 #30
How are you doing? What is it like down there? smirkymonkey Aug 2017 #33

sheshe2

(83,748 posts)
3. 65% refused.
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 11:33 PM
Aug 2017

I posted earlier tonight that CNN reported that officials told those that refused to evacuate write their name and SS# on their arm so they could be identified.

Now people are going to risk their life to save them. Why did they not leave? They knew this was going to be bad.

sheshe2

(83,748 posts)
11. Well, Roland?
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 12:06 AM
Aug 2017

Why do you not tell me?

Many went to shelter in the Superdome. We all no how well that worked out.

Why was Bush unprepared.

Read this.

Five Days at Memorial: Book Chronicles Euthanasia of Patients During Hurricane Katrina

https://www.amazon.com/Five-Days-Memorial-Storm-Ravaged-Published/dp/B00HMVX8VS/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_14_img_0/134-4993452-3266923?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=4HF2D833B2C9FRQ65Y23

 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
23. Poor people. Disabled. Elderly.
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 06:09 AM
Aug 2017

Plus the homeless.

Ain't no rich sportsman oilman dudes and their fams saying hey let's just stay here in Rockport.

 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
26. We should do it like Cuba but we don't.
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 06:32 AM
Aug 2017

I forgot to mention the addicts, drunks, and plain crazy folk.

Sugar land here (s w Houston suburb), so far so good. We have some peeps in Corpus - they've evacuated. The whole campus of A&M Corpus was evacuated - the campus is on its own barrier island. My baby's alma mater 2015. They bus the kids out. Some stayed though.

malaise

(268,961 posts)
29. Stay safe
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 07:14 AM
Aug 2017

I'm glad they evacuated the campus - better to be safe than sorry.
Cuba has the best model for hurricane evacuations across our hemisphere but they understand community.

femmedem

(8,201 posts)
7. omg. I didn't know that many people stayed.
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 11:41 PM
Aug 2017

This is heartbreaking.

I don't understand the psychology of staying, either. Afraid of losing their jobs? Afraid of being stranded and not able to get back? Nowhere to bring their pets? Gas stations out of gas by the time they realized how bad it would be? No money for lodging and food on the road? (That's probably a big one.)

But most likely they'd never been through a major hurricane before and didn't understand how terrifying and dangerous they are.

sheshe2

(83,748 posts)
8. Part may be that dumps ice team were going to demand their papers.
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 11:58 PM
Aug 2017

How ugly is that? That does not account for all, some to stubborn to leave. This is a Cat4 with 40 inches of rain...5 days duration and they are on the damn coast!

 

Not Ruth

(3,613 posts)
32. If you get check pointed fleeing to Mexico, don't you still end up in Mexico?
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 08:52 AM
Aug 2017

Not understanding the logic

Hangingon

(3,071 posts)
9. Wonder where the 65% number came from.
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 12:01 AM
Aug 2017

We evacuated yesterday and it then became mandatory. The stay-behinds we know have all left. I am sure dome did but I don't believe 65%.

jpak

(41,757 posts)
17. Evacuation is expensive - and you get nothing from FEMA
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 12:33 AM
Aug 2017

But if you have an expensive beach house that's damaged?

FEMA throw you bags of cash all day long.

yup

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
12. "Now people are going to risk their life to save them"
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 12:11 AM
Aug 2017

No, they are not, during the storm, nope.

Back in 1994 or so, when Mobile got hit by a hurricane, the mayor and the Sheriff broadcast that evacuation was required, and went to door to door as much as they could and said the same thing to people near the shore, told them to write their names and SS#, even that did not make them leave.
and then, at night, at height of the storm and wind and rain, the 9-11 calls came in, people demanding the sheriff etc come out and get them.
Of course they could not go out and get people, the streets were flooded.
Mobile floods easily in certain parts of town and even more floods during a hurricane.

a lot of folks who survived said they shoulda evacuated and next time they would.

Takket

(21,563 posts)
13. i saw a older woman on TV today...
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 12:19 AM
Aug 2017

said she was not evacuating because most people don't know what they are doing, but she knows what she is doing, so she is going to stay.

I... I don't get it... the very fact you would stay s every indication that you do NOT know what you are doing.

I don't know what she plans on doing if he roof gets torn off or a wall of water comes through her door.

femmedem

(8,201 posts)
6. Even after their mayor told them to write their social security #s on their arms if they stayed.
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 11:37 PM
Aug 2017

That was the most serious call to evacuation I've ever heard.

I'm a coward. I keep multiple cat carriers in my closet so if I ever need to, I can evacuate all the critters with me. (I live in a coastal city in Connecticut.)

unc70

(6,112 posts)
10. Three storm chasers in Rockport when building collapsed
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 12:02 AM
Aug 2017

Jeff P was streaming live on Periscope from Rockport as eyewall came ashore. Building where they were parked sort of blew up. I think they are ok, but scary video

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
20. Partial collapse is what is being said.
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 01:09 AM
Aug 2017

It was originally reported as a total loss but then a person who saw it says a portion collapsed.

This is the hotel the media and storm chasers were staying in in Rockport.




They've since evacuated in an attempt to find a safer place before the eye passed. They were afraid the building would collapse once the back wall hit.

Video of some of the news crews before they knew the extent of the damage.

https://m.

haele

(12,649 posts)
18. A lot of people don't evacuate because they can't afford to.
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 12:49 AM
Aug 2017

If Rockport is a typical small coastal town supporting fishing or the shipping, there's probably a lot of old timers without reliable vehicles and no place to go even if they had one. Their lives are wrapped up in their (most likely) uninsured home and small pension or Social Security to support them.
They stay and take their chances because there's nothing else for them but returning to nothing if they do leave.

Sad, but it's the tragedy of their life, and they see the rest of the country doesn't care enough to elect people who would provide a safety net for them.

Haele

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
19. Jeff Piotrowsk (emmy winning storm chaser) is posting periscope vids from Rockport.
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 12:56 AM
Aug 2017

This one was around an hour ago. He mentions some of the damage and people calling for help.

https://www.pscp.tv/Jeff_Piotrowski/1MYGNXLlaYQxw

Edit to add his twitter with all his posts from tonight.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Jeff_Piotrowski

Saboburns

(2,807 posts)
21. Sustained winds over 130 mph, gusts to 150 mph
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 01:16 AM
Aug 2017

This is a killer storm. It strengthened very quickly and very, very late.

And the flooding is supposed to be the worst part. Historic flooding that is to last weeks. Yes plural. Weeks.

I got a bad feeling regarding deaths and damage.

This could be as bad as Katrina. Or worse.

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