If you didn't vote for Hillary Clinton you are responsible for the fascist psycho in the White House

[onecaliberal]

While a category 4 hurricane is slamming the entire state of Texas practically, the psycho is on Twitter and pardoning a convicted racist. There can be no dount what the subhuman orange maggot is all about.

Fuck the asshats who were worried about benign emails from the most qualified human on the planet to run this county. Instead we are knee deep in fascism and 1/3 of the county are a okay with that. We are so completely screwed.

[alcibiades_mystery]

1. Seriously. Will people ever take responsibility for their actions

[cilla4progress]

2. Enough with the

Divisiveness. We've got to stick together!!

[JI7]

3. there is no "we" with those who didn't vote for Clinton

those people have no concern or trouble with what ARpaio was doing. and in fact most of them like it .

[Egnever]

25. That is nonsense

There are a lot of people that took a chance on Trump because they are sick of Washington. It was a bad choice and many now regret it but it is an understandable choice.

Washington has been screwing the little guy for decades now and for many Clinton represented a continuation of business as usual.

Sure Trump was an obvious nightmare to us but mostly folks don't pay attention the same way most of us here do.

[Orrex]

29. Yes, those people took a chance

And those people are called idiot racist fuckheads.

If they have now seen the light, well, that's super-duper. But they looked at the idiot racist fuckhead and said "that man is the best choice to lead the most powerful nation in the history of the world."

They are idiot racist fuckheads. That includes my aunt and my sister, in case you're wondering, so I'm not moved by people who cry "My mom voted for Trump. Are you calling my mom an idiot racist fuckhead?"

[JI7]

39. They voted for white supremacy. And they still support him

[Bettie]

46. You know, I do not think that there are a lot of people on DU

who didn't vote for Clinton in the general election.

However, your statement about it being an understandable choice is problematic for me.

I can not understand how someone could vote for an open misogynist, racist, and so many other things.

Mocking a disabled reporter, encouraging violence at his rallies, openly displaying his disdain for women, POC and too many others to list would be deal breakers for any decent person.

The fact that his voters embraced these things or worse, minimized them as unimportant tells me all I need to know about their basic lack of human decency.

[HeartachesNhangovers]

50. For a lot of people, politics isn't about personalities.

I can not understand how someone could vote for an open misogynist, racist, and so many other things.

Many people vote strategically - for the party or politician that they think will better serve their interests. They don't look at politicians as people - just as an end to a means.

[emulatorloo]

52. Everybody at DU voted for the Dem nominee.

So I think we're pretty united going forward.

[cilla4progress]

4. The focus needs to be on fighting

This abomination.

[onecaliberal]

5. We're fighting them. Those who were more worried about her email than this shitstorm

We're stuck with. They're enjoying what orange maggot does. We're NEVER going to win them over and honestly I don't give a rats ass about them.

[haveahart]

38. WE are fighting them but some of the "never Hillarys" are still in denial and not really helping

the Democrats win the battle. Still holding tight to their misguided grudges.

[onecaliberal]

40. Agreed. I just keep holding onto the fact that she won by more than 3 million votes

Some of the suppression tactics used in 16 have been struck down by the court. I'm just very angry and not very hopeful. I just can't for the life of me figure out how the dumb fucks who voted for him didn't see this coming.

[JI7]

7. fighting this abomination means knowing who is ok with what Arpaio did.

[Doug the Dem]

6. I voted for Hillary in the Primary and the General

But what the fuck is up with this fatwa against those who didn't? Yeah, people who voted for Trump are idiots! But what about Stein and Johnson voters? Obviously, they were naive as hell. But what, we're going to exile them to The Outer Darkness now?

In 2018 and '20, we're going to need every non-wingnut we can get!

[JI7]

9. if they are troubled by what Arpaio did and what Trump is doing they should have no problem voting

democratic.

but if they aren't it just shows why they didn't vote for Clinton against Trump . these things do not trouble them and likely they support it.

[world wide wally]

16. All we need to do is Get Out The Vote!

We don't even need their sorry vote!

BUT we need to get out our voters

[Egnever]

26. The fact ours did not come out should tell you something

[onecaliberal]

41. Ours DID come out. We won by 3MILLION. Problem is russia hacked 23 states voting machines.

[BzaDem]

17. Do you think their future vote hinges on our approval of them?

I don't. I think many will continue to not vote Dem, because they feel their political advocacy is more purposeful when they can complain about the lack of progressive policy. Actual progressive policy victories would make it harder for such complaints to be made.

I could imagine some who see the error of their ways, and decide in the future not to use their political power to destroy the lives of their fellow citizens. It would be hard for me to imagine a large number of people in this bucket (as they knowingly and wilfully took an action with consequences that were easily predictable and predicted). But I could imagine at least some who recognize reality in the future.

However, that doesn't mean we have to approve of their past actions, or excuse them, or make it sound like such actions are better than votes for Trump himself. Do you really think there is a non negligible set of people who were going to return to the Democratic fold, but then decided not to because of some internet posts condemning their past actions (which under the hypothetical, they themselves agree were wrong)?

[woodsprite]

21. I voted for Hillary in the GE as well, but not in the primary.

Those who are continuing, actually renewing and trying to escalate the divisiveness at DU are distracting from the work that needs to be done. DU has been my online home since 2004 and I intend to stay.

I had built a decent ignore list during the primaries and run-up to the GE and had cleared some, thinking this crap was over and we all were back to having a common goal or "enemy" once again. Looks like I'll have to revisit the list.

[smirkymonkey]

22. Same here, and I agree with you. Our focus needs to be on ONE

common goal. To unseat republicans and specifically Trump. I'm tired of this infighting. It's so counterproductive.

[brush]

32. People who voted 3rd party...ya really think we can rely on them?

Many of them also voted for Nader (see Susan Sarandon).

Let's look elsewhere. If they vote for the Dem nominee, fine.

But IMO we can't count on them.

[obamanut2012]

48. THey weren't naive

[fallout87]

8. Whats the point

Of all of these threads lately? Is there some large group here that didn't vote for her? If so, I dont see them posting in the open about it.

[JI7]

10. they do things like dismiss the Russian hacking and other right wing attacks

[PoiBoy]

12. +1,000,000... n/t

[Rhiannon12866]

14. I think some are forgetting about MIRT

Anyone who signs up with an idea of advocating for Trump - or anyone else who violates the DU ToS - is stopped right at the door.

[area51]

11. I'm in the Houston area ....

and I'd rather see people mentioning that the electors turned traitor against this country and gave us Trump, instead of people grinding personal axes.

[greeny2323]

13. Yep. This is correct. n/t

[world wide wally]

15. What's done is done....

We have to UNIFY for tomorrow!

[Madam45for2923]

43. Que ser, ser Whatever will be, will be The future's not ours to see Que ser, ser What will be,

Que será, será
Whatever will be, will be
The future's not ours to see
Que será, será
What will be, will be

[broadcaster90210]

18. BINGO

nt

[Mike Nelson]

19. Partly...

...anyway. Most of the voters did their job. The system failed...

It was never about the emails. She was a woman. He was the wrong color. Gays were getting married. Lazy people were getting too much money. And, their Jesus was getting very mad.

[Mike Nelson]

28. That's fine...

...while I disagree with you, I understand your point of view.

[Vinca]

20. We can continue flogging people, but it's kind of like rats on a treadmill.

We really need to focus on tomorrow, not yesterday. We can't change yesterday.

[MoonRiver]

23. TRUTH

[AngryAmish]

24. 53% of white women voted for Trump

Fuck them.

[orleans]

47. wow--

i did not realize this number was so high.

wth?????

reading through this article i see a comment by a female saying trump will be a voice for women. OMG!!! (as if a *real* woman would not have been the perfect voice???) she's a "former attorney" and i totally understand why she is a "former" attorney.

this piece ran back in january. i wonder how these assholes feel about their vote now? (still sticking by it or having a change of heart yet?)

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/14/us/women-voters-trump.html?mcubz=0

[HopeAgain]

30. Please vent your frustration at Trump in a productive way.

[RazBerryBeret]

31. i hope you posted this on Facebook

and other social media sites... it would be more productive there... not many Trump supporters on this site, so here you are pretty much preaching to the choir.

[MoonRiver]

33. Well, a lot of people, here and elsewhere, did not vote for Hillary or Chump.

I think those are the ones this OP is addressing.

[onecaliberal]

42. That. So much that.

[RazBerryBeret]

49. while I'm not disagreeing with you at all...

I think the percentage of non voters on THIS site is relatively small.
If you're engaged enough to be active on a democratic website you probably voted. and YEAH.. i know there "was one guy here that said he wasn't gonna vote cause he was a bernie-bro/green-party-sympathiser/clinton-hater..." heard it over and over.

My point is: Big picture, our time and energy would be better spent spreading this message to a larger percentage of non-voters.

[ucrdem]

34. TBH it probably wasn't the number of voters who didn't vote D.

It was gamed by the pros and while a total blow-out showstopper landslide would have made things more difficult, it's possible that she got one. She did in CA, where it took over a month to tote up all the early votes, provisional votes, same-day registration votes etc. Yet in red states they had it all figured out by 8:00 pm election day and that was that. The next day we were told Dems didn't turn out, and even though they did in record numbers, that's still the prevailing meme. So yes absolutely, voting counts, but it would count more if we had a decent electoral system.

p.s. K'n'R

[TDale313]

37. Good post.

[procon]

35. It was a simple choice: HRC or Trump, there was no middle ground.

No excuses! Anyone who shirked their civic duty and did not vote, or voted for any other candidate than the ONLY Democrat on the Ballot, helped elect Trump. No sympathies for anyone who balked, just look around you today and see the consequences of your self righteous moral rectitude.

[TDale313]

36. Not. Helpful.

But please, keep sowing the divisiveness. 🙄 (And yes, I did vote for Hillary in the General.)

[MrsCoffee]

45. Oh please.

That ship sailed last year. That's how we got here.

Messages reminding people that voting has consequences is not unproductive. It's basically a PSA.

[jalan48]

44. This may be true but I think a Trump was in our future regardless.

After 4-8 years of President Hillary Clinton hate by the Republicans ignorant Americans would have been primed to vote for Trump or someone like him. The problems in our country are much deeper than the election of one candidate. We're hanging by a thread here.

[Cosmocat]

54. YEP

Had Hillary won, it would be a whole different, and more violent, crazy now.

God's honest truth is it probably saved a lot of violence and bloodshed, at least for now.

And, you are right, we are hanging on by a thread, and 2018 is very likely the last stand.

[samnsara]

51. i too am at the point of saying if you didnt vote HRC this mess is on you ( not the hurricane tho)

[Gothmog]

53. Agreed