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cali

(114,904 posts)
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 11:34 AM Jul 2012

Karl Rove has some advice for President Obama: Stop suggesting Romney's a Felon!


Karl Rove To Obama: Stop Suggesting Romney’s A Felon

Sahil Kapur July 15, 2012, 10:50 AM 2020

President Obama’s fierce attacks on Mitt Romney’s history with Bain Capital hit a nerve with Karl Rove, who on “Fox News Sunday” simultaneously lashed out at the president and advised him to stop making one of his most explosive allegations: that Romney may be a felon.

Rove, the architect of President George W. Bush’s presidential victories, now runs the pro-Republican super PAC American Crossroads, which is spending heavily to help Romney defeat Obama. He took issue with the Obama campaign’s suggestion that Romney’s SEC disclosure forms — in which Romney described himself as managing director at Bain beyond 1999, contrary to his claim that he left that year — could make him guilty of a felony.

“The fact of the matter is that if the president continues to make this charge — this outrageous charge that his campaign had that Mitt Romney is guilty of felonious activity, could’ve committed a felony — that’s a big mistake,” Rove said, predicting the line of attack won’t help Obama with independent voters.

He called Obama a “cheap Chicago pol,” accusing him of engaging in “gutter politics of the worst Chicago sort.” He echoes Romney, who called Obama’s claim “reckless and absurd,” and “beneath his dignity.”

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http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/07/karl-rove-obama-romney-felon.php
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Karl Rove has some advice for President Obama: Stop suggesting Romney's a Felon! (Original Post) cali Jul 2012 OP
Consider the source of this advice and act accordingly.. nc4bo Jul 2012 #1
Bingo TroglodyteScholar Jul 2012 #9
Funny, Rove said "felon".... ananda Jul 2012 #2
Is Karl worried that he might be next? Skidmore Jul 2012 #3
Karl Rove should be a felon Generic Other Jul 2012 #4
Hey Karl, stop saying Don Siegelman is guilty. no_hypocrisy Jul 2012 #5
Uh, the felony line began as a REPUBLICAN defense, believe it or not. Marr Jul 2012 #6
If the shoe fits! Tennessee Gal Jul 2012 #7
"Leave Mittney alone!!!" HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #8
Watching Rove on Fox (shudder) News Sunday: nolabear Jul 2012 #10
"I am not a felon!" kentuck Jul 2012 #11
haha-hope you get a chance to take a look coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #40
Did he say we also shouldn't call him (Red Rover) a little pasty oinker? lonestarnot Jul 2012 #12
Karl Projecting AGAIN otohara Jul 2012 #13
LOL, Rove's 'outrage' is music to my ears... Spazito Jul 2012 #14
Hey Rovie, can't stand your own tactics? Thinkingabout Jul 2012 #15
Or WHAT? Will mittens have his buddies chase Obama & hold him down while he cuts some hair? SoCalDem Jul 2012 #16
Kkkarl = Treason orpupilofnature57 Jul 2012 #17
I have some advice for Karl Rove: Lizzie Poppet Jul 2012 #18
LOL. I agree! mnhtnbb Jul 2012 #25
That's the sound of Karl getting his ass kicked BeyondGeography Jul 2012 #19
Who would know gutter politics better than KKKKarl? notadmblnd Jul 2012 #20
Well, Rove IS the expert on gutter politics... Curtland1015 Jul 2012 #21
thank you for your concern, karl arely staircase Jul 2012 #22
or whatcha gonna do Turd? DemocracyInaction Jul 2012 #23
Oh, not true. They whine, complain, cry foul...and fuck 'em. mnhtnbb Jul 2012 #28
Karl Rove cut his political teeth with Donald Segretti's Dirty Tricksters coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #24
The "Chicago" meme is clearly the talking point du jour.... riderinthestorm Jul 2012 #26
Damn. If Nancy Pelosi had gone after Karl Rove, he might be a felon too. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #27
If Karl is helping Mittwit, then his "helpful" advice, is obviously self serving treestar Jul 2012 #29
Karl "I-do-NOT-look-like-Porky-Pig" Rove riverwalker Jul 2012 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Jul 2012 #31
poor karl...axelrod is kicking his ass... madrchsod Jul 2012 #32
Echoes of Bob Boudelang (for you old-timers like me) The Blue Flower Jul 2012 #33
AND HE IS NOT EITHER A FELON! Rain Mcloud Jul 2012 #36
Chicago, Chicago. Obvious Rove is obvious. Matariki Jul 2012 #34
Yeah good thing there's no corruption in Texas. Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2012 #37
Hmmmmmmmm, Rain Mcloud Jul 2012 #35
was that an obama or superpac ad? there's a difference you know, according to even k-k-k-karl. eom ellenfl Jul 2012 #38
The felony question came from Stephanie Cutter Ruby the Liberal Jul 2012 #47
You know you've got them on the run when.....they start spouting this stuff n/t antigop Jul 2012 #39
That news Aerows Jul 2012 #41
I am sure that will work NNN0LHI Jul 2012 #42
Is he kidding? 3feetofsnow Jul 2012 #43
He's saying "Of course he's a felon, independent voters know that already" Johonny Jul 2012 #44
Denial is not a river in Europe. Swede Jul 2012 #45
Karl should be happy if he thinks Obama is B Calm Jul 2012 #46
I'm Suggesting Karl Rove should be in PRISON for Election Theft and MURDER Ghost of Huey Long Jul 2012 #48
kkkarl's pissed cause he didn't think of using it first... spanone Jul 2012 #49

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
1. Consider the source of this advice and act accordingly..
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 11:36 AM
Jul 2012


Squealing like the stuck political pig that he is......blow it out your arse Mr. Rove.
 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
6. Uh, the felony line began as a REPUBLICAN defense, believe it or not.
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 11:39 AM
Jul 2012

They said if the Obama Administration's claims were true, Romney would be a felon. The implication being that it was all so ludicrous because obviously, Mitt Romney is not a criminal and we should all know that.

So proof emerges that he was in fact deeply involved with Bain after the date he originally claimed, and they immediately shift over to, "it's ludicous to say that constitutes a felony".

lol

Tennessee Gal

(6,160 posts)
7. If the shoe fits!
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 11:39 AM
Jul 2012

Perhaps it is pinching your toes, Mr. Rove.

You like to dish it out, but can't take it .... just like a bully. Rove and Romney ... two peas in a pod.

nolabear

(41,932 posts)
10. Watching Rove on Fox (shudder) News Sunday:
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 11:41 AM
Jul 2012

Romney is so screwed. They are panting and whining and talking about how to stop the bleeding. And they can't FIND a good thing to say about their guy.

Spazito

(50,151 posts)
14. LOL, Rove's 'outrage' is music to my ears...
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 11:43 AM
Jul 2012

It re-affirms the Obama campaign is hitting exactly the right 'notes' and Rove knows it, can't combat it even with his multiple millions PAC.

Love it, love it, love it!

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
15. Hey Rovie, can't stand your own tactics?
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 11:44 AM
Jul 2012

Don't blame Obama for Romney decisions, Obama was not CEO of Bain.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
16. Or WHAT? Will mittens have his buddies chase Obama & hold him down while he cuts some hair?
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 11:46 AM
Jul 2012

or will he put on his Cop costume & arrest him?
or will he trip him?
or smear his face with butter?


or will mittens just cry , like the whiny spoiled brat he is and has always been?

 

orpupilofnature57

(15,472 posts)
17. Kkkarl = Treason
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 11:46 AM
Jul 2012

Was a time Kkkarl would be hung for his Outing an agent of the FBI or CIA for the purpose of extortion , lucky for him it was post Nov 8 2000 .

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
20. Who would know gutter politics better than KKKKarl?
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 11:49 AM
Jul 2012

Listen to the little fucksnake whine when Dems use the rules that the right wing uses to play the game.

Never suggest that Romney could be guilty of a felony. BTW the President is nothing but a cheap chicago pol. Really?

Curtland1015

(4,404 posts)
21. Well, Rove IS the expert on gutter politics...
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 11:49 AM
Jul 2012

The difference being, at least Obama's attacks are based on facts.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
24. Karl Rove cut his political teeth with Donald Segretti's Dirty Tricksters
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 11:51 AM
Jul 2012

back in Watergate days.

Just to refresh Karl's memories of those halcyon days:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002951820

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
26. The "Chicago" meme is clearly the talking point du jour....
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 11:53 AM
Jul 2012

It used again by rMoney's spokesperson in this article...



Gillespie says Romney ‘retired retroactively’ from Bain Capital
Source: The Hill

Democrats have raised questions about when exactly Romney left Bain . Romney has said he left in 1999 to oversee preparations for the Salt Lake City Olympics, but SEC documents show him listed as Bain’s CEO beyond that time.

Gillespie on Sunday sought to clarify the matter, saying that Romney initially thought he would be leaving Bain on a temporary basis, but the challenges of the Olympics led him to “retire retroactively.”

"There may have been a thought at the time that it could be part time, but it was not part time," Gillespie said.

"He took a left of absence and in fact he ended up not going back at all, and retired retroactively to 1999 as a result," he added. He left a life he loved to go to Salt Lake City and help a country he loves more, and somehow Chicago… is trying to make it something sinister." "

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Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/237943-gillespie-says-romney-retired-retroactively-from-bain-capital

treestar

(82,383 posts)
29. If Karl is helping Mittwit, then his "helpful" advice, is obviously self serving
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 11:58 AM
Jul 2012

We just continue calling him a felon!

Response to cali (Original post)

madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
32. poor karl...axelrod is kicking his ass...
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 12:09 PM
Jul 2012

david is going to show karl how it`s done without the supreme court and rigged machines in ohio.

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,494 posts)
37. Yeah good thing there's no corruption in Texas.
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 12:30 PM
Jul 2012
I could almost get through that sentence with a straight face.

ellenfl

(8,660 posts)
38. was that an obama or superpac ad? there's a difference you know, according to even k-k-k-karl. eom
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 12:31 PM
Jul 2012
 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
41. That news
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 01:01 PM
Jul 2012

Is as tasty as a fine meal after a day long fast. Karl ROVE is declaring that attacking Mitt Romney is unfair.



Excuse me while I get myself together after laughing so hard.

Oh wait - "gutter politics" and "a cheap pol".



I don't think I'll stop laughing any time soon.

Johonny

(20,818 posts)
44. He's saying "Of course he's a felon, independent voters know that already"
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 01:12 PM
Jul 2012

they assume Republicans are all felons. What's the big deal.

 

Ghost of Huey Long

(322 posts)
48. I'm Suggesting Karl Rove should be in PRISON for Election Theft and MURDER
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 01:51 PM
Jul 2012

Sources:
The Raw Story, September 29, 2008
Title: “Republican IT consultant subpoenaed in case alleging tampering with 2004 election”
Authors: Larisa Alexandrovna and Muriel Kane

The Brad Blog, December 22, 2008
Title: “OH Election Fraud Attorney Reacts to the Death of Mike Connell“
Author: Brad Friedman

Democracy Now! December 22, 2008
Title: “Republican IT Specialist Dies in Plane Crash”
Interviewee: Mark Crispin Miller




Karl Rove’s chief IT consultant, Mike Connell—who was facing subpoena in connection with 2004 Presidential election fraud in Ohio—mysteriously died in a private plane crash in 2008. Connell was allegedly the central figure in a longstanding plot to electronically flip votes to Republicans.

In July 2008, Connell was named as a key witness in the case known as King Lincoln Bronzeville Neighborhood Association v. Blackwell, which was filed against Ohio Secretary of State Kenneth J. Blackwell on August 31, 2006 by Columbus attorneys Clifford Arnebeck and Robert Fitrakis. It initially charged Blackwell with racially discriminatory practices—including the selective purging of voters from the election rolls and the unequal allocation of voting machines to various districts—and asked for measures to be taken to prevent similar problems during the November 2006 election.

On October 9, 2006, an amended complaint added charges of various forms of ballot rigging as also having the effect of “depriving the plaintiffs of their voting rights, including the right to have their votes successfully cast without intimidation, dilution, cancellation or reversal by voting machine or ballot tampering.”

Despite Connell’s efforts to quash his subpoena to testify, he was ordered to appear for a two-hour, closed-door deposition on November 3, 2008, just eighteen hours before the 2008 national election. Though Connell had expressed willingness to testify, he was reticent after receiving threats from Rove.

Arnebeck presents evidence that Karl Rove threatened Connell, cautioning that if Connell didn’t “take the fall” for election fraud in Ohio, Connell would face prosecution for supposed lobby law violations. After this threat, Arnebeck sent letters to the Department of Justice, as well as messages to high-ranking members of the department, seeking protection for Connell and his family from attempts to intimidate. Despite Connell’s elite status as a top-rung Republican consultant for years, whose firm New Media Communications provided IT services for the Bush-Cheney 2004 campaign, the US Chamber of Commerce, the Republican National Committee, and many Republican candidates and campaigns, witness protection requests went unheeded.

Connell was an experienced pilot. His plane had been recently serviced. He had been in the nation’s capital on still-unknown business before his single engine plane crashed December 22, 2008 on the way home, just three miles short of the runway in Akron, Ohio. The cause of the crash remains unknown.


http://www.projectcensored.org/top-stories/articles/12-mysterious-death-of-mike-connell%E2%80%94karl-roves-election-thief/


Instead of prison, Karl Rove is on our public airwaves fighting for Romney, creating reality as he states:



The aide(Karl Rove) said that guys like me were "in what we call the reality-based community," which he defined as people who "believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality." ... "That's not the way the world really works anymore," he continued. "We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors…and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."
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