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Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 03:35 PM Aug 2017

Trump thinks he, "Can get away with anything" He is wrong.

I think Mueller will get him.
...Trump has had to settle with some, and ignored paying others. He has gone bankrupt to avoid paying people. But this game is different.
.. Will Mueller get him? I believe he will. What if Trump fires Mueller?. Trump may be impeached. Congress will appoint someone to take his place. It could be Mueller... Trump has broken laws in dealing with other countries to corrupt our election. This is not a game for Mueller. One of his best friends, a fellow F'BI leader was fired in a way only a mean asshole fires people. Mueller will get him. When? When Mueller has an iron clad case against Trump. That is when. Remember, this: Mueller is a lot smarter than Trump. And Mueller has dealt with others like Trump before.
If I recall, Nixon thought the same thing. They got Nixon, and they will get Trump.

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Trump thinks he, "Can get away with anything" He is wrong. (Original Post) Stuart G Aug 2017 OP
Maybe, But Nixon was not Trump. pangaia Aug 2017 #1
I am not loosing confidence... Mueller will get him.. And some members of his family too. Stuart G Aug 2017 #2
Man, I hope so thegoose Aug 2017 #3
Yes, Mueller IS going to get him. ElementaryPenguin Aug 2017 #4
I really believe that this guy's luck has to run out at some point. smirkymonkey Aug 2017 #5
Nope. He will get someone to fire Mueller. Rehthugs will do nothing. They are too kairos12 Aug 2017 #6
He is no different than any other autocrative white male. Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #7
So far, he's not wrong. CanonRay Aug 2017 #8
"So far..." Stuart G Aug 2017 #9
He's been right so far lame54 Aug 2017 #10
It is only 7 months into his presidency.. Stuart G Aug 2017 #11
And the primary and the election... lame54 Aug 2017 #12
We're in big trouble. Johnny2X2X Aug 2017 #13
I do not believe we are in that deep.. Stuart G Aug 2017 #14
We have no idea yet if Trump is going to be impeached. And Pence is just as bad...... USALiberal Aug 2017 #15
No one knows what will happen or how it will happen.. Stuart G Aug 2017 #16
I agree with you! Trump is dangerous and the GOP are scared to call him out! n/t USALiberal Aug 2017 #17
The Great State of New York will bring them down, no pardons for state convictions. L. Coyote Aug 2017 #18
The Repugs won't take tRump out unless they are forced to, he's the cover for their rotten agenda. diane in sf Aug 2017 #19

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
2. I am not loosing confidence... Mueller will get him.. And some members of his family too.
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 03:52 PM
Aug 2017

Why ? An iron clad case, takes time. When Mueller has got it, it will be clear. Clear to all. Even Trump's lawyers will tell him. You this fellow Mueller knows what he is doing. That is what I believe. He and his crew will get Trump.

 

thegoose

(3,115 posts)
3. Man, I hope so
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 04:27 PM
Aug 2017

The shit he's gotten away with...I've gone from angry to profoundly depressed.

The Deplorables have brought "the Swamp of Sadness" to our country.

ElementaryPenguin

(7,800 posts)
4. Yes, Mueller IS going to get him.
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 04:38 PM
Aug 2017

And he will resign when he is impeached, because the serious crimes he'll be linked to, besides Obstruction of Justice and Money Laundering, but maybe...

CONSPIRING WITH RUSSIA TO STEAL CONTROL OF THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT (easily the highest treason ever committed) is going to be just a little hard for the GOP to defend - plus he's killing their brand, and they hate his guts!

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
5. I really believe that this guy's luck has to run out at some point.
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 04:39 PM
Aug 2017

He has gotten away with too much for too long. Karma is going to bite him in his fat ass soon enough.

kairos12

(12,851 posts)
6. Nope. He will get someone to fire Mueller. Rehthugs will do nothing. They are too
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 04:58 PM
Aug 2017

afraid of the Drumpt crazy base.

Baitball Blogger

(46,698 posts)
7. He is no different than any other autocrative white male.
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 04:58 PM
Aug 2017

They know that it will be easier to move a mountain, than it is to hold a white male accountable.

CanonRay

(14,097 posts)
8. So far, he's not wrong.
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 05:01 PM
Aug 2017

He's gotten away with everything. Every idiot thing he said and did which would have sunk anyone else's campaign, all the stupid shit he's done as President*, he's gotten away with it all, so far.

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
9. "So far..."
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 08:37 PM
Aug 2017
"all the stupid shit he's done as President*, he's gotten away with it all, so far."

So far, yes, so far that is true. It takes time to insure that your facts are correct when you are going after the President of the United States. Watergate broke in the summer of 72..Nixon resigned in summer of 74..The last 3 or 4 months, events moved very fast. I recall it became somewhat clear in the last 45 to 60 days that the investigators "got him".. Nixon was as arrogant as Trump. Don't kid yourself, Nixon had gotten away with lots in the past, and was sure he could always do so. (some people think, as do I, that Nixon himself was responsible for a 15 minute gap in the famous tape that was found incriminating him)..

Watergate investigators built that case with a very strong foundation. Mueller is doing the same. Most of his crew are very skilled investigators who know the tricks. Just because it hasn't been proven "so far" doesn't mean that it won't be proven. And just like Nixon, Trump will say he did nothing wrong and won't resign, and then he will resign...Why do I say that?...There seems to be a whole lot that Trump might have done that was illegal. The meetings between Jared and the Russians, money from Russia, etc. It will all come out...Why?...because Mueller will pressure the crowd to squeal on each other in order to get reduced jail time.. This is indeed ugly, but that is what it is. Trump thinks he can get away with anything, and Mueller will, given some time. prove he can't.

One more note: If/When Trump fires Mueller, the situation will immediately be a crisis of larger proportions. Mueller will get Trump but it will take time. We will see who is correct on this.

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
11. It is only 7 months into his presidency..
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 08:56 PM
Aug 2017

So the last 4 months things are getting warmer. Give it some time. If Mueller takes another 6 to 8 months to "get him" would that be ok?...Maybe 4 months...who knows? Give it time.
...We will know who is correct...Trump may resign for other reasons,. Other events can occur. But I do not think that he will continue to get away with whatever he does. It may seem that way now, but only time will tell. And no matter who is correct, it will get uglier and far dirtier ...I believe that too.

lame54

(35,282 posts)
12. And the primary and the election...
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 08:59 PM
Aug 2017

Trump predictions are worthless

Who knows what (if anything) will take him down

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
14. I do not believe we are in that deep..
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 09:06 PM
Aug 2017

Trump in my opinion will not, again, will not become some kind of dictator. The entire system will have to give in to that..and I do not think that can happen.. ( especially with an election in 14 months )

USALiberal

(10,877 posts)
15. We have no idea yet if Trump is going to be impeached. And Pence is just as bad......
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 09:10 PM
Aug 2017

Pence is scary because he can fake sanity.

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
16. No one knows what will happen or how it will happen..
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 09:15 PM
Aug 2017

Trump is not stable, and we all agree on that. What he does or doesn't do could happen on a whim. He could resign suddenly for some unknown reason. I just hope in the process of this uncertainty, people are not killed by Trumps actions

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
18. The Great State of New York will bring them down, no pardons for state convictions.
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 09:35 PM
Aug 2017

And Mueller understands this completely. I want to see as many charges from the state as possible.

If Trump is impeached or resigns, Pence takes his place and picks a V-P. The majority in both houses of Congress must approve a new V-P. There is a slight chance Pence will be forced to resign before Trump quits or is impeached, then Trump picks the next V-P. This is why Paul Ryan keeps his mouth shut.

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