Hillary voters LOVE Bernie!

[floppyboo]

according to this poll released recently (August 17-22) by Harvard Harris
http://harvardharrispoll.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/HHP-August-Wave_Custom-Banners_Registered-Voters.pdf 37

This is important information. The animosity between factions in the democratic party is rife here, and propagated by some who have the money to buy speech. This poll tells a very different story.

Go to page 37 for Hillary Clinton and page 44 for Bernie Sanders.

For those who voted for Clinton:
approve/strongly approve Clinton = 81 % very unfavorable/unfavorable = 15%
Sanders approve/strongly approve =80% very unfavorable/unfavorable = 14%

Its time to stop fighting. Obviously Hillary voters in the big outside world Love Bernie! And Hillary!

[PatrickforO]

1. Good post.

Thank you.

[CousinIT]

2. I love Bernie. Voted Hillary in General, Bernie in Primary.

I think there's room in the Dem Party for the progressive and the centrist 'wings' - there had BETTER BE or Dems will continue to LOSE and in case no one's noticed: WE. CAN'T. AFFORD. THAT. Full stop.

[dchill]

4. "there's room in the Dem Party for the progressive..."

If not, I'm out.

[tblue37]

71. I also was a Bernie primary supporter who happily voted for Hillary in the general. nt

[secondwind]

81. Same here.

[Hieronymus]

112. Me too.

[sandensea]

3. Voted for both, and very fond of them both.

They're both consummate professionals who've devoted their public lives for the sake of the rest of us. They may have differing ideas as to how best to accomplish that; but they both share that same vision and goal.

As opposed to being a craven kleptocrat, like the one Putin installed as our president in order to inflict as much harm as possible.

[CousinIT]

7. Ditto this. n/t

[TexasTowelie]

5. So,

"The animosity between factions in the democratic party is rife here, and propagated by some who have the money to buy speech."

This leads me to two questions,

1) Who on DU is spending money to buy speech as the OP suggests?
2) The Harvard-Harris poll is a monthly poll commissioned by The Hill for their exclusive use. Has anyone thought about what motive The Hill might have to commission monthly polls?

If the polls were incorrect in predicting the winner of the 2016 presidential election, then why should we believe that this poll is any way representative of the general population?

[floppyboo]

6. My apologies for suggesting it was paid speech here. I was speaking generally

of the MSM.
I also would like to know more about Havard-Harris. It surprised me to see the choices they gave
No Kamila Harris, No Tulsi Gabbard
And why the heck Steve Bannon?

Despite all that, I found the polling around the 2 last standing dems, and the un-masking of the perceived rift in the party very heartening.

[floppyboo]

10. re. were the polls correct?

I guess that's how you choose to read them. Or which ones you want to believe. LA Times had Trump out front. I think there was another one too. There was also that model created by some British company (wouldn't be surprised if it was that one that Mercer paid) where you could move the axis around for different voting groups. It was clear if you suppressed the AA vote and white males showed up Trump would win. Wish I could find it for you!

[TexasTowelie]

15. Were the polls correct?

Well according to Harvard-Harris then Mike Pence is the second most popular politician in the country. I'm surprised that even half of the country knows that Mike Pence is VP.

It makes me want to set up a dartboard across the room and throw 50 darts in that general direction to see what sticks. Harvard-Harris also said in February that 73% of voters want for Democrats to work with Trump. I wouldn't bet my next meal that their data is reliable.

[mythology]

68. The national polls were spot on

The LA Times poll was off. Yes they had Trump winning, but that was the popular vote which he lost handily. In that poll the final numbers had Trump winning the popular vote by a bit over 3 percent. Instead Clinton won by a bit over 2 percent. The LA Times poll was off by 5 percent. The national polling average had Clinton winning the popular vote by 3.3 percent, 1.2 percent difference from the election results.

The LA Times poll got attention for predicting a Trump win, but they weren't accurate on the numbers.

[mcar]

38. +1000!

And nice to see you here.

[floppyboo]

11. I guess you are part of that special 3%!

And this site is a good place for you to vent those feelings.

The catch-phrase I hear most often is the 'big tent' and all should be welcome

[murielm99]

13. We are a big tent.

That is the only reason BS was welcome at all and allowed to run as a Democrat.

[floppyboo]

16. And wasn't that awesome!

Look at all the new blood that felt they could make a difference in fighting for social justice, environmental justice, and, best of all, believing there was an option for each voice to participate in the democratic process free of corporate money!

These were things I thought were the pole holding up that big tent!

[MrsCoffee]

21. No it wasn't.

Spoilers spoil everything. The party will never be used in such a heinous manner again. Democrats' money and influence will be saved for Democrats and non-spoilers.

[Adrahil]

22. I'm not sure it was.

I saw divisions rise and get aggravated that weren't aggravated before.

I saw a candidate refuse to concede even when it was bloody obvious he had lost and inflame some of his more ardent supporters.

I'm not trying to rehash the primaries, but let's not pretend it was all sweetness and light. It wasn't, and in the end I think it did more harm than good.

[floppyboo]

54. hmm, not looking backwards here! This is a new poll

and suggests those tensions aren't as real as they may seem, or are portrayed ad infinitum to the point of dangerous group think anymore. Discussions - even heated debate - are healthy for fixing stuff that's broke. I really hope people can stop re-living that tense time and benefit from lessons learnt.

[Adrahil]

57. Yeah.... Sure.

I think this is yet another in a long line of posts from people who, in my view, seem to be dedicated to building a cult of personality.

There is lots to admire about Bernie Sanders. If asked if I "approve" of Sen. Sanders, I would say yes. His values and mine largely align, even if I think his policy positions are mostly fantasy.

But let me be clear. I will NEVER vote for him in a primary, and I strongly oppose permitting him to run as a "Democrat" again. If he is permitted to run, and he wins, I will gladly vote for him.

But don't spin this "poll" into something it is not.

[floppyboo]

59. You mistake my point. I am not looking at the over-arching results of the poll

And my intent here is to show similarities - not to cause divisions or raise one person over another.

I am saddened that so many jump to conclusions. You really have to let go of 2016.

[Purveyor]

12. Well that is certainly a "winning the hearts and minds" post if I ever saw one. Good luck in 2018..

[murielm99]

14. Whose hearts and minds are you planning on winning?

The far left, who will never find any Democrat pure enough? Blue collar white males, the non-union kind, who have not voted for Democrats in thirty years? Good luck with that.

[floppyboo]

18. oh dear. Are you okay? That sounds horribly tragic

There aren't that many far-left people out there and I don't know where to start with your non-union worker remark. Are you suggesting that is a permanent desirable condition?

[DavidDvorkin]

9. It's a worthless poll.

[trueblue2007]

118. i agree with you

[C Moon]

17. floppyboo this is a great post. Thank you.

I voted for Hillary, but I love Bernie.
We need to get the traitors out of the house, the senate and the WH.

[brer cat]

19. You believe

that Bannon is the 12th most popular politician in America?

[MrsCoffee]

20. Cool story, bro.

[Willie Pep]

23. Bernie and Hillary supporters are not that different.

Jonathan Chait did a good breakdown of one study on the election and talked about this issue.

The Democratic Party is not really divided on economics.

You think the Bernie Sanders movement was about socialism? Not really. Sanders voters have the same beliefs about economic equality and government intervention as Hillary Clinton supporters. On the importance of Social Security and Medicare, Sanders voters actually have more conservative views.

Where they mainly differ is on international trade and the question of whether politics is a rigged game. The ideological content of Sanders’s platform is not what drew voters. It was, instead, his counter-positioning to Clinton as a clean, uncorrupted outsider.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/06/new-study-shows-what-really-happened-in-the-2016-election.html

The Internet often gives a very skewed perspective as the most active people online tend to be more extreme, that is why you can find plenty of communists and neo-fascists online while never encountering them in real life. In the same vein I am sure you find more intense anti-Clinton and anti-Sanders Democrats online than in real life where most Democrats are probably fine with both of them. I am guilty of sometimes taking the Internet too seriously myself, so it is good when polls like this come out and help to give some much needed perspective.

[Iggo]

33. "Bernie and Hillary supporters are not that different."

Because the overwhelming majority of us are THE SAME GODDAM PEOPLE!!!

Jesus fucking christ! Can the 2016 Dem Primary PLEEEAAASSSEEE be over?!?!?!

Fuck!

[TheDebbieDee]

55. As long as the mention of the 2016 Dem primaries

Causes angry and bitter debates between Hillary and Bernie supporters on progressive forums, the subject will continue to be broached...

This is laying the groundwork to faction the Dem party for the 2020 Presidential Elections - we've got to stop allowing this debate to pull our strings!

[RandiFan1290]

24. Right wingers love to trash Bernie

They want to divide us.

I always notice the uptick in Bernie attacks when dump shoves his tiny foot in his mouth.

[R B Garr]

32. Actually, RWers trash Chelsea Clinton more than Bernie.

He's not a target for obvious reasons. For some reason, Chelsea is on their radar. Same with Kamala Harris, like when they tried to shush her in those hearings.

[sheshe2]

101. They are women.

[R B Garr]

116. Indeed. That looks like a big factor. nt

[Hassin Bin Sober]

49. Yep. Right wingers and Reagan Democrats

[R B Garr]

52. lol, Reagan Democrats are defined as rust-belt.

So....

[Hassin Bin Sober]

65. Gee. I need to check the map because last i looked

... Reagan had huge crossover in every state except Minnesota. That's why he won every state except Minnesota.

I suppose if you want to take a narrow Wikipedia definition then have at it...

I see them here in Chicago that claim to be Democrats then cheer on Rahm Emanuel on while he beats up on the teachers union

[R B Garr]

114. Wrong. They are by definition rust belt. Smearing

everyone who didn't vote for a socialist doesn't mean the majority of voters are Reagan Democrats. That's hilarious.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

60. Reagan Democrats

How many are still alive? The last time Reagan ran was 33 years ago.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

64. So somebody who voted at 25 would be 58 years old.

I still see a lot of them in Chicago. They're pro-union but only their own Union. Anyone else's Union is "not really necessary"

They "pay for their own health care" and don't understand why they should have to "pay for anyone else's Healthcare". Except for their own Medicare of course.

They'll complain about "kids these days wanting free stuff"

Basically a conservative Democrat that whines about socialism

[R B Garr]

117. Reagan Democrats are not everyone you don't like.

There is a specific meaning to using that term.

[Gothmog]

25. I strongly disagree with this poll

[NurseJackie]

26. Oh brother!

This is important information.

[R B Garr]

28. Yup! The journal says, "see you in JPR"

lol

[NurseJackie]

31. LOL, indeed!

That tells me all I need to know.

[R B Garr]

35. Yes, me too.

[Bradshaw3]

90. Sarcasm and divisiveness

I don't think that helps win elections in the future. The OP to me was showing that we can be unified. I guess you think that's worth an eye roll.

[NurseJackie]

92. I'm smarter than many people think I am...

... I wasn't fooled.

The OP to me was showing that we can be unified.

Okay. Whatevs. The motivation and intent were clearer to me.

I don't think that helps win elections in the future.

It's a thread on a discussion website. It's not the the DNC outreach committee.

I guess you think that's worth an eye roll.

Absolutely. I wouldn't have posted it otherwise, now, would I?

[Bradshaw3]

100. Since you know the real intent share it with the rest of us

Who said it was the DNC outreach committee? The TOS states:
"Democratic Underground is an online community for politically liberal people who understand the importance of working together to elect more Democrats"
Seems to me the post was in that vein but all I've seen from you is eye rolling and the statement that you know what was really intended.
To wit the TOS also states:
"above all, we want our members to be friendly to each other. The vast majority of our members are thoughtful people who care about issues, and most of us can handle a different opinion if it is shared in a respectful way. No matter where you stand on the political spectrum, a little human kindness goes a long way toward smoothing over our differences and making this place feel like a community."
and
"Do not imply that they are fake Democrats, fake progressives,"
and
"Underground welcomes all people who are members of the Democratic coalition, including the full range of center-to-left viewpoints"

I don't see why if you have a disagreement with a post as innocuous as this, that kind of response was deserved. Perhaps you could explain your disagreement in a way that informs and that conforms with the TOS. Thanks

[NurseJackie]

109. Well...

Since you know the real intent share it with the rest of us

What purpose would it serve? Other than to please or entertain, there's no compelling reason for me to do that.

I don't see why if you have a disagreement with a post as innocuous as this,

Honestly, I don't see how that's my problem. I'm afraid I cannot help you. Sorry.

#GoodLuck

[Bradshaw3]

131. So you are not able to defend your position or approach?

Got it.

[Eyeball_Kid]

27. PLEASE! Let's move on.

We don't need more HRC/BS discussion, IMO. That's water under the bridge. We need to focus on GOP criminal conduct and treason. Were I sufficiently paranoid, I'd suspect that this kind of talk is a right wing/Russian distraction tactic.

Let's stay focused on the present.

The nation is coming apart at the seams. Trumpy is literally dismantling the entire governmental infrastructure, and some of us are re-litigating last year's debacle. That won't stop interstate crosschecking, unrelenting Russian cyberattacks, the floundering and listless GOP Congress, and the growing pressure from climate change. On the horizon is a tsunami of GOP/Russian propaganda aimed at negating the popular sentiments that legitimately blame Trumpy and the GOP of weakening our nation. If unchallenged, they'll alter the reality frame successfully and remain in power.

[smirkymonkey]

30. Thank YOU!

God,I am so sick of this crap. It's gotten so old.

[peggysue2]

107. Yes!

1000x yes.

[Orsino]

29. Similar agendas should mean alliance.

Doesn't have to trickle down to DU, of course but out in the real world, we're gonna be bumping into each other wherever we choose to get/stay involved.

Grudges are fun, sure, but meanwhile there's good work to be done.

[OilemFirchen]

34. I'll ask again. Perhaps I'll get an answer this time.

Why is Elizabeth Warren four percent less "popular" than Donald Trump?

Do you really want to allow this poll to inform you?

[floppyboo]

58. I must have missed where you asked that.

Are you looking at name recognition? Which page of the poll are you referring to?

[OilemFirchen]

66. This page:

http://harvardharrispoll.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/HHP-August-Wave_Topline-Memo_Total-Only_Registered-Voters.pdf

Page 38:

Now we will show you some names. Please indicate if you have a favorable or unfavorable view of that person - or if you've never heard of them.

Summary Of Very Favorable/Favorable

Base: All Respondents

...

Donald Trump 41%
Elizabeth Warren 37%

[geek tragedy]

70. Because Warren's appeal outside the Democratic base is highly overrated?

She ran about 8% behind Obama in 2012.

Love her as a Senator, but the idea that she's some kind of political force outside the inner sanctum of the big tent has always been iffy.

[OilemFirchen]

75. Ah. A name recognition poll.

Very useful.

[geek tragedy]

84. I'm talking about actual election results. nt

[GreenEyedLefty]

36. I voted for Bernie in our primary but enthusiastically supported HRC in the general.

There is room in this big old tent for both them and their supporters.

[asuhornets]

37. Where's the poll for Bernie voters LOVE Hillary?

[MoonRiver]

39. Good point.

My guess is that even online polls couldn't rig that one.

[floppyboo]

56. with a little math, lets see!

Bernie had about 40% of the primary votes? Now, assuming that Hillary voters that voted Hillary then didn't change their minds, and only 4% strongly disapprove of Hillary, that would lead me to believe that 36% of the 81% of 'approve Hillary' are Bernie voters., and 45% were Hillary voters. That's not a big difference!

[lapucelle]

108. You need data to support the claim.

Assumptions aren't data.

80% of the 54% who have a favorable view of BS voted for Hillary.

The only conclusion you can reach is that a significant percentage of those who voted in the November 2016 election AND who hold a favorable view of BS in August 2017 cast their presidential vote for Hillary Clinton.

You can't combine personal speculation with raw data and reach valid conclusions unless you can prove the truth of your assumptions.

[floppyboo]

111. of course I agree with you! That's why I began with the caveat of an assumption!

[George II]

40. Did respondents have an opportunity to vote for Barack Obama? Kirsten Gillibrand?

Kamala Harris? Jerry Brown? Martin O'Malley?

No, none of them, but they had an opportunity to vote for Steve Bannon.

Also, did you see the comments on Page 1 of the document? FYI, here's an excertp:

"Results were weighted for age within gender, region, race/ethnicity, marital status, household size, income, employment, and education"

That alone shows how ludicrous this ONLINE "poll" is.

[NurseJackie]

42. Clicky-clicky! (LOL!)

[George II]

44. Uh huh......

[lapucelle]

47. Harvard gets a cut of the fee The Hill pays Harris

in exchange for the use of their name in the poll title. Harris pays respondents for their participation with Amazon and Starbucks gift cards.

[sheshe2]

102. It is from The Hill?

[lapucelle]

104. The Hill has "exclusive use " of this particular poll

per contract with Harris Insights & Analytics. "Exclusive use" polls are commissioned and paid for by the "exclusive use" holder.

The results of these polls are "donated" to the Center for American Political Studies at Harvard University. In exchange, Harris is allowed to use Harvard's name in the poll title.

Harris polls are not included in the Blue Book published by the American Association for Public Opinion Research. That organization, founded in 1947, "is the leading association of public opinion and survey research professionals".

AAAPOR has a very rigorous code of ethics.

[lapucelle]

43. Steve Bannon is the 12th most popular politician

According to that survey. Not a single POC made the cut, including Barack Obama.

[George II]

45. The poll was conducted after Bannon (a politician??? hah!) was fired. Yes, an all-white poll.

[NurseJackie]

48. I'm not sure why ANYONE would want to brag about these poll results.

[ismnotwasm]

80. It's a JPR thing

[NurseJackie]

87. They're...

[Blue_Tires]

46. Bernie, for the most part is fine...

it's his nuttiest supporters I have a huge problem with...

[George II]

50. I think I've seen this poll posted here about five or six times.

[Skidmore]

78. Me too so I'm trashcanning it

every time I see it from now on.

[Me.]

51. I Thought That Poll Has Been Discredited

about a hundred million times as well as the part that says BS is the most popular pol. Mark Penn fingerprints all over it.

[Mike Nelson]

61. They really were on...

...the same team. And both were way different from the Orange Menace.

[PatsFan87]

62. Voted for Bernie in the primary and Hillary in the general.

The fighting distracts us from the work we need to be doing rebuilding state parties and completely owning 2018.

[andym]

63. Popularity is fleeting: Hillary Clinton was the most popular politician in America in 2013 with 61%

I totally believe that Bernie Sanders is one of the most popular politicians in America (actually Joe Biden might be the most popular), and that a huge majority of Hillary Clinton general election voters appreciate him. That might not be apparent from DU, but DU is typically not representative. However, Bernie's popularity may be as fleeting as Clinton's, because popularity is like fashion, it is almost always transient or at least changeable.

For a historical review, take a look at this article from FEBRUARY 8, 2013:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-politics-clinton-idUSBRE9170NZ20130208
"WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is the most popular U.S. politician, surpassing fellow Democrats President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden as well as leading Republicans, a national poll found.

Sixty-one percent of American voters approve of Clinton, a possible U.S. presidential candidate for 2016, while 34 percent said they had an unfavorable opinion, according to the survey by Quinnipiac University released on Friday.

The poll comes one week after Clinton left her post as the nation's top diplomat..."

The Benghazi investigations and especially Comey's actions drove her favorable ratings down in the high 30's by the election and surprisingly she has not recovered much in the polls, as of July 2017, when she had favorability ratings in the low 40's.
Whether Bernie Sanders continues to be as popular among the general populace and Hillary Clinton voters in particular is a question for the future.

[lapucelle]

67. Your analysis of the data makes no sense.

45% of the 89% of all the respondents who actually voted in the 2016 presidential election voted for Hillary Clinton

80% of the 54% who view BS favorably voted for HRC. The only reasonable inference to be made is that a significant percentage of those who view BS favorably voted for Clinton.

There is no data in the study that provides evidence that supports the inference in the OP headline.

Data analysis is complex and best left to experts.


http://harvardharrispoll.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/HHP-August-Wave_Custom-Banners_Registered-Voters.pdf

http://harvardharrispoll.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/HHP-August-Wave_Topline-Memo_Total-Only_Registered-Voters.pdf

[Tarheel_Dem]

69. Not me.

[Lucinda]

72. +1

[Tarheel_Dem]

88. If I didn't hate him before, thanks to his disciples, I most certainly do now. n/t

[Warren DeMontague]

73. Of course. Bernie Sanders is a popular and important voice for progressives.

Everyone who has been paying attention understands that!

[Docreed2003]

83. Still...this thread makes me want to:

[Warren DeMontague]

85. and yet, mentions of "Sarandon" are down significantly this past week or so.

IT WORKS IF YOU WORK IT!

[Docreed2003]

86. Lol...very true!!

[NurseJackie]

94. Sarandon? Really? That gets under your skin? LOL! Why does that bother you so much?

[Warren DeMontague]

95. It doesn't get under my skin. I think it's funny.

I mean, she gets way more airtime here than she does on IMDB.

I find the obsession with her in some quarters on DU, sort of odd. But, then, DU skews demographically towards the Frampton Comes Alive set, so there's probably a decent Rocky Horror Picture Show OG contingent here too.

[NurseJackie]

97. Yeah... just as I thought. It bothers you.

That's far too much analysis, contemplation and reflection for someone who merely finds it "odd".

Okay. Thanks for the reply. Good to know!

[Warren DeMontague]

98. Sure, with words and stuff.

huh huh words.

[NurseJackie]

110. LOL!

[Warren DeMontague]

119. ...

[NastyRiffraff]

74. Not all of us.

I, for one, dislike and distrust Sanders.

[Evergreen Emerald]

76. Post will not be posted

[randr]

77. State Delegate for Bernie, voted for Hillary

Not likely to support either again

[wryter2000]

79. I like Bernie just fine

And the vast majority of Bernie folks voted for Hillary. IMHO the fights break out because of a few extremists. During the election, many of them were probably trolls.

[Vetteguy]

82. Not buying it.

The fact that the unity committee is trying to throw POC,women and gays under the bus with their caucus crap has caught the attention of loyal Democrats who are messaging Mr Perez as we speak. Nina Turner, Nomiki Konst and the rest sole purpose is to get Sanders the 2020 nomination and that is all.

[Nevernose]

89. We hear the loudest voices. Also: so what?

In real life or on the Internet. Polls like this are a good reminder that, in real life, most of us agree on most issues (although strategies not so much).

More importantly, and honestly with no disrespect: so what? I don't give a shit about those two, except maybe as prominent speakers from the left, and the fact that Bernie is still a sitting senator. Otherwise? They're both done. The 2016 campaign is over. They BOTH lost. They're not running again, and if they did I would most likely support someone else in the primary. Hillary is 0 for 2 nationally and Sanders will be 80 if he runs again.

2018 is all that's important right now. That's the best, and probably only, way of stopping Trump.

[Bradshaw3]

91. Great post with good information

We need more posts like this!

[NurseJackie]

93. LOL!

No we don't.

[Warren DeMontague]

99. you seem tense.

[sheshe2]

103. LOLTense?

[Warren DeMontague]

105. Was I not using real words?

It's kind of hard to tell these days.

[NurseJackie]

106. LOL!

Wrong again.

That cracks me up!

[Arazi]

96. Yup, I'm one of them. Now its time to come together and win in 2018

[joshcryer]

113. Of course they do, unlike Sanders supporters, they support liberalism.

A large patch of supposed Sanders supporters went full Trump. This is a documented fact.

[floppyboo]

124. It is an old fact. Let's stay present.

[samnsara]

115. i have never been a bernie fan...not ever! but he would have had my vote if he won the primary

[ucrdem]

120. Dubious conclusion drawn from questionable source.

I wouldn't call it fake news exactly, but "manufactured" might be accurate. Anyway is Senator Sanders seriously contemplating another run in 2020? Because there seems to be an uptick in news-free Sanders news.

[lapucelle]

121. It reminds me of the studies commissioned and paid for

by climate change deniers tailored to support their claims.

The Hill has a year long contract with Harris Analytics, so you can expect to see explosive bogus claims based dubious data in their in their headlines in the coming future. For some reason, this week they chose to spin McConnell's 11th place showing in popularity into a headline that proclaimed "Poll: McConnell the County's Least Popular Politician". How someone who ranks as the 11th most popular somehow morphs into the least popular of the hundred (if not thousands) of politicians in this country is frankly bewildering.

As for the uptick in in news-free BS news, it may be part of a publicity campaign. BS is on on a book tour for his just-released guide to revolution written for the juvenile/young adult market.

[The Polack MSgt]

122. Wait a minute, Hillary voters love Bernie?

So effing what.

He lost the Primary and his supporters helped lose the General

There was a grand total of one Democrat in the general election , and she was abandoned by 15 - 25% of Sanders' supporters in the GE

What kind of nonsense is this through the looking glass post trying to prove?

[floppyboo]

123. This poll is one week new - not through the looking glass

It might be helpful to look at the numbers as a present representation of sentiments, and stop being stuck in the primaries.

[lapucelle]

129. With Pelosi at #6 and Schumer at #10 on the most popular list,

Democratic congressional leadership is looking good. The Democratic congressional caucuses made the right choices when they elected their leaders.

[JHan]

125. Hillary supporters are reasonable people from my observation

No cheap shots etc. Glad you think we're fantastic. *thumbs up* for so long Hillary supporters get called "hillbots" , "vagina voters" etc, this is a welcome change.

(Edit: of course it's not lost on me the only measure of awesomeness being applied here is Hillary Supporters loving Bernie but hey, whatever it takes!)

And I still find it hilarious the traction these pollsters have been getting recently.

[BainsBane]

126. Is there any point at which anyone is going to carry about anything

other than personalities? If the goal is to create a Democratic party that stands for something, this isn't helping.

So no, I don't love any politician. Not the ones I voted for or didn't vote for. None of them gave birth to me, married me; nor did I raise them from infancy. The idea that people "love" politicians creeps the fuck out of me. If people cared a fraction about issues--any issues--as they do about insisting their favorite politician is popular, we might actually have a population capable of self government.

Additionally, that poll tracks favorability ratings. If you're going to claim respondents "love" the public figures they rate as favorable, you better warn them they are being used for that purpose.

If you're trying to promote unity, can it be around something that actually matters?

[betsuni]

127. [phone]

[Tavarious Jackson]

128. I'm very involved in my local dem group

I find this poll extremely hard to believe.

[PBass]

130. "Concern trolls" pushing "purity" are rampant on Facebook.

Still talking about how the DNC "rigged" the election, and other nonsense.

This screen grab sums up my feelings. Trolls using the primary to divide Democrats: