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NickB79

(19,233 posts)
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 03:38 PM Aug 2017

Are we finally going to have a discussion about the future of rebuilding coastal cities now?

Because we really, really, really should not be rebuilding some portions of Houston in the years to come. Within some of our lifetimes, we'll be looking at FEET of sea-level rise, bringing with it rising tides and stronger storm surges, along with more extreme precipitation events like we're seeing today.

Fighting an unwinnable battle against the sea, instead of letting go of the land we cannot hold, is the perfect recipe for disaster. That is how climate change will bankrupt and collapse nations in the future, pushing us into a perpetual cycle of rebuilding after each disaster, only to rack up more and more unsustainable debt.

We need to rebuild on higher ground. We need to return currently populated land to bayou's, swamps and mangroves. We need to do this NOW, not 20 years from now.

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Are we finally going to have a discussion about the future of rebuilding coastal cities now? (Original Post) NickB79 Aug 2017 OP
NO! 45's making sure of that. BigmanPigman Aug 2017 #1
You and I didn't make the decision on where to build and lay down massive amounts of concrete SharonClark Aug 2017 #2
More and more people every year FLPanhandle Aug 2017 #3
One of the reasons I only had one child. NickB79 Aug 2017 #4
Hahaha. No, we're not. maxsolomon Aug 2017 #5
How many said we shouldn't rebuild New Orleans after Katriana? B2G Aug 2017 #6
At some point the economic pain will outstrip the brainwashed denial of global warming Orangeutan Aug 2017 #7
Bless your heart. nt procon Aug 2017 #8
Houston is 50 miles inland from Galveston... brooklynite Aug 2017 #9
Houston Area has the advantage of a lot of space marylandblue Aug 2017 #10
This! Docreed2003 Aug 2017 #11

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
1. NO! 45's making sure of that.
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 03:45 PM
Aug 2017

Why would Harvey change him or those who support him, nothing else does?!

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
2. You and I didn't make the decision on where to build and lay down massive amounts of concrete
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 03:46 PM
Aug 2017

That was a decision made by corporations and city 'planners'. Its all about tax revenue.

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
3. More and more people every year
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 03:50 PM
Aug 2017

They have to go somewhere and most people live near the coast. Too many human beings on this planet.

NickB79

(19,233 posts)
4. One of the reasons I only had one child.
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 03:54 PM
Aug 2017

I can hardly bear to think about the hell that she'll see in her lifetime as climate change ravages our planet.

maxsolomon

(33,310 posts)
5. Hahaha. No, we're not.
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 04:01 PM
Aug 2017

Sunk Cost Fallacy.

We will have that conversation at some point in the distant future, though. When it's too late.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
6. How many said we shouldn't rebuild New Orleans after Katriana?
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 04:03 PM
Aug 2017

I seem to recall lots of outrage at the suggestion we don't.

brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
9. Houston is 50 miles inland from Galveston...
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 04:20 PM
Aug 2017

...I understand the problem (I teach this in grad school), but how much land are you proposing to abandon to develop.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
10. Houston Area has the advantage of a lot of space
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 04:34 PM
Aug 2017

A lot of low density housing and undeveloped land in the outer areas. If you give people incentives to rebuild at higher density further inland and outside of areas prone to flooding, it would do a lot to increase resilience in the future. Galveston has a bigger problem. Under worst case scenarios, it could be completely under water by 2100.

But I don't think we will have this conversation in earnest until parts of cities are permanently underwater. Florida coast will probably the first to face this issue.

Docreed2003

(16,858 posts)
11. This!
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 05:51 PM
Aug 2017

Baton Rouge had catastrophic flooding last August due to a similar situation where a storm stalled over southeast Louisiana dumping feet of rain. The flooding issue is not just a "coastal" issue, it's clearly a global warming issue.

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