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Just 20% of Americans under 30 approve of Trump: poll (Original Post) workinclasszero Aug 2017 OP
What's the percentage of people under 30 LuvLoogie Aug 2017 #1
Hope greeny2323 Aug 2017 #2
Too bad they don't vote redstateblues Aug 2017 #3
Instead Of Being Negative About Them - Let's..... global1 Aug 2017 #7
Democrats shouldn't have to BUY their votes leftynyc Aug 2017 #10
Nice Attitude..... global1 Aug 2017 #12
If the thought of living leftynyc Aug 2017 #13
So You Don't Vote Your Pocketbook?..... global1 Aug 2017 #18
If I voted my pocketbook leftynyc Aug 2017 #23
Hasn't the last election proven they treestar Aug 2017 #15
+1000000000 treestar Aug 2017 #14
This 27 year old agrees. Jamaal510 Aug 2017 #40
If you need a cookie to do your civic duty EllieBC Aug 2017 #11
And The Next Election (2018) Can Have Some Catastrophic Consequences If We Don't Take.... global1 Aug 2017 #16
global1, you are spot on here Mike Niendorff Aug 2017 #19
Funny how there's no apparent hostility toward old people Mariana Aug 2017 #20
Thank you nycbos Aug 2017 #4
If the old people hadn't voted for Trump in such high numbers Mariana Aug 2017 #21
I have hate in my heart for Trump voters. nycbos Aug 2017 #25
It's true, a lot of them still don't get it. Mariana Aug 2017 #29
Very low I believe workinclasszero Aug 2017 #36
This is why we need younger candidates Phoenix61 Aug 2017 #5
I don't think younger is necessarily the answer HopeAgain Aug 2017 #30
Check out Run for Something crazycatlady Aug 2017 #38
I'm told Trump and the Trump GOP aren't in trouble DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2017 #6
Out of the mouths of children Funtatlaguy Aug 2017 #8
Maybe they'll get off their leftynyc Aug 2017 #9
It's No Wonder Both Sides Suck....nt global1 Aug 2017 #17
Really? leftynyc Aug 2017 #22
They never heard of either of them. nycbos Aug 2017 #26
LOL - and a Yankee fan!!! leftynyc Aug 2017 #27
We're Going To Need Every Vote We Can Get In 2018.... global1 Aug 2017 #31
The supreme court leftynyc Aug 2017 #33
So If You Feel So Passionate About This Why Don't.... global1 Aug 2017 #34
ALL the ones I'm associated leftynyc Aug 2017 #39
Young people should really give us hope for the future. Doodley Aug 2017 #24
How many of them didn't vote? HopeAgain Aug 2017 #28
The Democrats need to give them a reason to vote FLPanhandle Aug 2017 #32
Well we already know that if young people actually voted Thrill Aug 2017 #35
Dear 80% of people under 30 - GET OUT AND VOTE! Stinky The Clown Aug 2017 #37
I'll believe it Jamaal510 Aug 2017 #41
 

greeny2323

(590 posts)
2. Hope
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 08:56 AM
Aug 2017

I really hope some of these younger folks are motivated to vote in 2018 based on the Trump disaster.

global1

(25,241 posts)
7. Instead Of Being Negative About Them - Let's.....
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 09:18 AM
Aug 2017

work on figuring out a way to get them out to vote. I bet a lot of these 18 - 29 y/o's are buried under massive student loans. Do you think we Dems can work on something that can help ease this burden? That could get them out to vote.

Any other things we can do to appeal to them? Let's be constructive for once.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
10. Democrats shouldn't have to BUY their votes
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 09:25 AM
Aug 2017

If they care about the country they live in, they should already be voting. I'm tired of making excuses for these lazy, entitled creeps who sit back whining how both sides suck.

global1

(25,241 posts)
12. Nice Attitude.....
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 09:36 AM
Aug 2017

I thought most people vote their pocketbook. Issues like taxes; health care; social programs; etc.

i guess we can't offer some alternatives to this young group. So let's just write them off - huh?

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
13. If the thought of living
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 09:40 AM
Aug 2017

under the reign of a degenerate who is going to put more scalia's on the court isn't enough to get them off their asses, then yes, they're too stupid to cater to. I've been voting Democratic my entire life (I'm almost 57) and I didn't need anyone to "cater" to me or buy my vote.

global1

(25,241 posts)
18. So You Don't Vote Your Pocketbook?.....
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 09:53 AM
Aug 2017

Your getting up there in age. So let's tax the hell out of you. Let's take away Medicare. Social security. Healthcare insurance going up. Huh? Those are pocketbook issues - that I'm sure that you take into consideration when you vote.

Why can't this young cohort have a pocketbook issue to motivate them? Or do you just want it all for yourself.

Let them struggle. Let them squirm. Let's make it hard for them. After all they are whiny, snotnosed, spoiled brats. Is that it?

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
23. If I voted my pocketbook
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 10:15 AM
Aug 2017

I would vote republican - every single time. I don't NEED social security or medicare - is that clear enough?

EllieBC

(3,013 posts)
11. If you need a cookie to do your civic duty
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 09:34 AM
Aug 2017

then you aren't paying attention. And you're being an entitled little shit. There are issues that will affect everyone. This last election could have some very far reaching consequences.



global1

(25,241 posts)
16. And The Next Election (2018) Can Have Some Catastrophic Consequences If We Don't Take....
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 09:47 AM
Aug 2017

back the House and Senate.

Come on people - I'm 69 y/o and I feel for this cohort of people. They are struggling. Wanting to get married, raise a family, get a good decent paying job to buy a house, furniture, a car, etc. They can't because they are buried in debt - student debt.

When I was their age - I was able to pay my way through college - no student loans.

We tell them to get a good education - and nowadays - that's even in question - and you have to sell your soul to the devil to even afford to do that.

And when you get out of school your looking at 20+ years and more to pay off your loans. And the employers take advantage of them by being tightwads on salary.

Have some compassion people!!!!

Mike Niendorff

(3,460 posts)
19. global1, you are spot on here
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 09:55 AM
Aug 2017

And I am baffled by the hostility to younger voters showing up in the replies to your post (seriously : "entitled little shits"? "creeps"? wtf is going on here?).


MDN


Mariana

(14,854 posts)
20. Funny how there's no apparent hostility toward old people
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 10:05 AM
Aug 2017

the majority of whom VOTED FOR TRUMP! They're the ones who put his disgusting ass in office, they're the ones who still say they approve of his job performance, they're the ones who would vote for him again, given a second chance! But, no one is calling them names in this thread. Why is it on the young people to clean up after the old people's stupidity?

nycbos

(6,034 posts)
4. Thank you
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 08:58 AM
Aug 2017

I am young person who hates other young people for that reason.

If these people actually voted we wouldn't have had Trump.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
21. If the old people hadn't voted for Trump in such high numbers
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 10:12 AM
Aug 2017

we wouldn't have Trump, either. Do you hate them too?

FTR, I'm an old person who didn't vote for Trump. Most people my age did vote for him, and IMO they are much more deserving of contempt than the young people are.

nycbos

(6,034 posts)
25. I have hate in my heart for Trump voters.
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 10:29 AM
Aug 2017

In particular the older voters.

I never had hate for people before.

I thought you could be an honorable person and vote for a John McCain a Mitt Romney. Even W.

However, I think the young people are more deserving of contempt.

A lot of them have left leaning values and they couldn't figure out that Hillary wasn't the same as Trump. To paraphrase Bill Maher "the difference between an imperfect friend and a deadly enemy."

Or they believed the primary was rigged "because they didn't know anyone who voted who voted for Hillary."

A lot of them STILL don't get it despite everything that Trump has done. They think issues like choice, gay rights and justice for African Americans are "distractions."


With "friends" like that who needs enemies.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
29. It's true, a lot of them still don't get it.
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 10:41 AM
Aug 2017

I don't think they're worse, though. Right now, the majority of people over 50 approve of Trump. They'd vote for him again, given the chance. They'd do it enthusiastically. They're worse.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
36. Very low I believe
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 12:02 PM
Aug 2017

Which explains to some degree how a dying group of racist baby boomers got a POS like Twitler elected.

Phoenix61

(17,003 posts)
5. This is why we need younger candidates
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 09:10 AM
Aug 2017

This is a once in a lifetime opportunity for Dems to get young people engaged in the political process. If getting Twitler and his cohorts out of office doesn't motivate someone to get off their butt and vote I don't know what would.

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
30. I don't think younger is necessarily the answer
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 10:42 AM
Aug 2017

Bernie (like him or hate him) caught the attention of many young voters...

crazycatlady

(4,492 posts)
38. Check out Run for Something
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 01:44 PM
Aug 2017

They're a group that trains Millennial Democrats (under 35) to run for office.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
9. Maybe they'll get off their
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 09:24 AM
Aug 2017

asses and vote for a change. Nah - so much easier to whine and complain about how both sides suck.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
22. Really?
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 10:14 AM
Aug 2017

No difference between a Bader-Ginsberg and a Scalia? Is the ignorance of our youth really that deep?

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
27. LOL - and a Yankee fan!!!
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 10:40 AM
Aug 2017

that's funny and incredibly sad. They stopped teaching civics and this is the result of that.

global1

(25,241 posts)
31. We're Going To Need Every Vote We Can Get In 2018....
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 11:00 AM
Aug 2017

to take back the House & Senate and render Trump impotent. If it takes SCOTUS appointments to get you out so be it. But we need to appeal to The American People across the board. Women - what issues will motivate them to GOTV? LGBTQ - what issues will get them to GOTV? The Elderly - what issues will get them to GOTV? The Sick, Disabled - what issues will get them to GOTV. Minorities - what issues will get them to GOTV? And yes - the 18 to 29 y/o cohort - what issues will get them to GOTV.

We can't just campaign against Trump. Look where that got us. And yes - we need to come down the hardest on Trump's enablers - the Repugs. They are the reason we are where we are now and they keep circling the wagons around Trump.

If we need to buy the votes to defeat them - then so be it.

With the ways we Dems can help all these groups and the America People in general - we'll all be better off.

So guy - get off your high horse and think of the whole of The American People.

I really find your attitude distasteful. I don't make it a habit here to take on my fellow DU'ers - but I had to make an exception in your case.

I'm embarrassed to call myself a Dem when I run into people with attitudes like yours.

Come on - try to be more positive!!!!

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
33. The supreme court
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 11:16 AM
Aug 2017

is the answer to ALL the questions you asked. I vote in every single election - even in off year ones where it's only local judges so telling ME to get off my high horse is fucking hilarious. How about getting those lazy entitled shits who need to be catered to and babied to get off THEIR high horses? If they didn't take the trouble to look at Hillary the candidate - what she stood for, what she supported, what she wanted to accomplish - and not the cartoon creature created by the media, it's their own damn fault for being so lazy.

global1

(25,241 posts)
34. So If You Feel So Passionate About This Why Don't....
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 11:24 AM
Aug 2017

you get out of your snit and talk to - what you call lazy people - and educate them. Fire them up. Get them engaged. Get them to GOTV. Maybe by talking to them personally you might better understand them.

It does no good just to post your complaints here. Do something constructive, positive.

Cause I don't want to be reading your negative posts after we lose in 2018 & 2020.


 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
39. ALL the ones I'm associated
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 02:37 PM
Aug 2017

with - nieces, nephews, cousins and their significant others and their friends wouldn't ever consider not voting. They're responsible people who don't need to be bought. It always surprises me when the pathetic percent of their generation comes up after the elections as to how many didn't vote. Who the fuck are these losers? As for the poor little darlings who didn't vote, I'm not in the least bit interested in their opinion on ANYTHING. Let them suffer under republican presidents. I'll be fine either way.

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
32. The Democrats need to give them a reason to vote
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 11:07 AM
Aug 2017

1) Jobs, jobs, jobs. The Democrats better be the party of American jobs in every election going forward.

2) Student Loans/Cost of University. The Democrats need to be the party of affordable education.

3) Environment. The Democrats need to be the party protecting the environment and alternative energy.

But #1 is the most important.

Thrill

(19,178 posts)
35. Well we already know that if young people actually voted
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 11:24 AM
Aug 2017

Republicans would never be elected. The problem is they don’t

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
41. I'll believe it
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 04:54 PM
Aug 2017

when it translates into votes. For sure I'll vote next November as well as every election in the future, but I lost faith in my fellow 20-somethings to do the same. Too many expect instant gratification.

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