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shraby

(21,946 posts)
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 04:04 PM Aug 2017

Watching MSNBC and they are bringing in equipment and men from the Army.

I said last night that they should tap the equipment the army has and got disparaging remarks citing the Posse Comatitas (sp?) law. That law covers using the military against the citizens.

The military can be used to assist if needed in emergencies, and they finally got them in motion at Orange, TX.

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Watching MSNBC and they are bringing in equipment and men from the Army. (Original Post) shraby Aug 2017 OP
You were right. Posse comitatus has to do with using the military The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2017 #1
I just wondered why it took them so long, important point is they are taking advantage of shraby Aug 2017 #2
It takes awhile to marshall all that equipment and qualified crews The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2017 #3
Glad to see them doing it to it. shraby Aug 2017 #4
NO 1800 plus died madokie Aug 2017 #5
1st Battalion 22nd Infantry & 82nd Airborne at Hurricane Andrew Sedona Aug 2017 #6
I remember they were called up to help and they did a great job too! lunatica Aug 2017 #8
I agree lunatica Aug 2017 #7

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,608 posts)
1. You were right. Posse comitatus has to do with using the military
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 04:06 PM
Aug 2017

for law enforcement. There's no prohibition against military assets being used for disaster relief.

shraby

(21,946 posts)
2. I just wondered why it took them so long, important point is they are taking advantage of
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 04:10 PM
Aug 2017

the Blackhawks, and other large helicopters and all the rubber rafts they have and manpower to get them in motion.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,608 posts)
3. It takes awhile to marshall all that equipment and qualified crews
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 04:13 PM
Aug 2017

and set up procedures, staging areas, fuel access, etc.

Sedona

(3,769 posts)
6. 1st Battalion 22nd Infantry & 82nd Airborne at Hurricane Andrew
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 04:24 PM
Aug 2017

I watched the 82nd Airborne arrive in Homestead.......which was appropriate because it looked like a war zone. It took them about five days to show up but when they did....everything changed for the better. I'll never forget dozens of fine young men jumping off helicopters carrying M-16s running toward me.



http://1-22infantry.org/history/andrew.htm

The first views of the damage from the storm for the soldiers of 1/22 Infantry came as the battalion deplaned on August 30, 1992, at Homestead Air Force Base and embarked on busses towards the then unbuilt First Brigade base camp. Hangars were torn open, C-130 cargo planes and F16 fighters were flipped over and strewn about as if they were toys. The 1st Battalion 22nd Infantry soldiers could see that their work was cut out for them and they could also begin to understand the "why" behind their deployment.

While the battalion set up a base camp in the vicinity of the outskirts of Homestead, Florida, key leaders and staff reconnoitered the local area where the battalion would be conducting its mission. The city was divided into zones by streets and geographic areas among all of the battalions of the first brigade in the same fashion as other units of the division. The initial reconnaisance revealed the complete devastation that the poeple of the Homestead area had endured with the passage of the hurricane. Only major streets and highways had any of the debris cleared off of them and all other roads were blocked with trash and debris. Roofs had been blown off of buildings, and telephone and light poles had been blown over. Power and lights were off in all parts of the district, and potable water and food was unavailable.

After the reconnaissance operations, the battalion commander and staff devised their plan to alleviate the problems in the assigned area of operations (AO). The plan divided the battalion sector into company zones that were then marked on acetate graphics, overlaid on the Homestead, Florida map. Each company then divided its sectors into platoon areas of operations and each of the leaders was assigned general cleanup tasks. First priority went to removal of anything that would cause a health hazard, either to a soldier or civilian, followed by food distribution. The third priority was concentration on large debris removal. Lastly, leaders would follow through by asking the residents what it was that they needed help with to get their lives back in order.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/82nd_Airborne_Division#Hurricane_Andrew

In August 1992, the division deployed a task force to the hurricane-ravaged area of South Florida to provide humanitarian assistance following Hurricane Andrew. For more than 30 days, troopers provided food, shelter and medical attention to the Florida population as part of the U.S. military Domestic Emergency Planning System. The 82nd was part of over 20,000 Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine and an additional 6200 National Guard troops deployed for the disaster.[38]
They also provided security and a sense of safety for the victims of the storm who were without power, doors, windows and in many cases roofs. There were, as with all disasters, criminals trying to take advantage of the situation, in this case looters and thieves. The presence of the 82nd quickly eliminated that factor from the equation.[39]

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