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highplainsdem

(48,971 posts)
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 09:07 PM Aug 2017

LOVE Jonathan Chait's headline in NY Mag: Robert Mueller Eliminates Trump's Trump Card

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/08/robert-mueller-eliminates-trumps-trump-card.html


Donald Trump’s ability to issue presidential pardons has been the ultimate weapon looming over Robert Mueller’s investigation. Trump could potentially pardon himself of any crimes. More importantly, he could dangle a pardon to his former staffers to encourage them not to supply Mueller with any incriminating information on Trump. Mueller is apparently handling his investigating like the prosecution of a mob boss, pressuring underlings to flip on the boss. Trump’s advantage is that, unlike a mob boss, he can give out an unlimited number of get-out-of-jail-free cards. Trump has reportedly mused in public about using the pardon — and his pardon of Joe Arpaio flaunted his willingness to use it on behalf of a political ally, even in outrageous fashion.

But there turns out to a flaw in Trump’s strategy. The presidential pardon only applies to federal crimes...

-snip-

Trump can pardon anybody facing charges from Mueller, but not from Schneiderman. It is probably significant that Mueller is letting this fact be known to Trump’s inner circle. Trump’s biggest source of leverage over Mueller just disappeared.
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LOVE Jonathan Chait's headline in NY Mag: Robert Mueller Eliminates Trump's Trump Card (Original Post) highplainsdem Aug 2017 OP
Mueller is infinitely aquamarina Aug 2017 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Duppers Aug 2017 #2
I have one of those shirts. Barack_America Aug 2017 #5
It's astonishing that 45, with his crimes, wanted to moonscape Aug 2017 #3
Idiot thought being president was like being king in an absolute monarchy. He kept tblue37 Aug 2017 #6
This. GallopingGhost Aug 2017 #8
I've thought the same. Duppers Aug 2017 #7
The Big Boy League plays hardball for keeps. oasis Aug 2017 #4
 

aquamarina

(1,865 posts)
1. Mueller is infinitely
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 10:43 PM
Aug 2017

Smarter than Donnie Two Scoops. He's probably strategized every possible legal scenario and then some. Trump is metaphorically playing checkers against Garry Kasparov

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moonscape

(4,673 posts)
3. It's astonishing that 45, with his crimes, wanted to
Thu Aug 31, 2017, 12:41 AM
Aug 2017

go anywhere near high public office. Gambino wouldn't have done it. But then, those mob bosses were smart.

The hubris!

tblue37

(65,336 posts)
6. Idiot thought being president was like being king in an absolute monarchy. He kept
Thu Aug 31, 2017, 12:49 AM
Aug 2017

hearing that the president is the most powerful person in the world, and he believed it. He has no understanding at all about the way the U.S. government works, so he is completely surprised to discover that he can't just rule by fiat and force everyone to bow down and submit to his whims.

GallopingGhost

(2,404 posts)
8. This.
Thu Aug 31, 2017, 02:11 AM
Aug 2017
Exactly this. In fact, Omarosa used those exact words in a statement prior to the farce of an election. I'd have to look up the whole quote to write it verbatim, but she said everyone would have to "bow down" to him.

I'm sure he thought he could bully, threaten and intimidate everyone around him, and he has certainly done that to many. But not everyone rolls over so easily. Mueller has one hell of an impressive team.

Duppers

(28,120 posts)
7. I've thought the same.
Thu Aug 31, 2017, 01:27 AM
Aug 2017

The narcissistic dumbass deserves prison and financial ruin.

Thing is no one in this clan was intelligent enough to figure out the risks, the chances of being caught. They had gotten away with too much already.


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