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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums**BREAKING: U.S. Orders Russia to Close Consulates in New York, D.C. and San Francisco
http://fortune.com/2017/08/31/russian-embassy-us-retailation-against-russia/Reuters
12:52 PM ET
The United States is requiring Russia to close its consulate in San Francisco and two annex buildings in Washington, D.C. and New York City, the State Department said on Thursday, in response to the Kremlin's decision to shrink the U.S. diplomatic mission in Russia.
Last month Moscow ordered the United States to cut its diplomatic and technical staff in Russia by more than half, to 455 people, after Congress overwhelmingly approved new sanctions against Russia.
"We believe this action was unwarranted and detrimental to the overall relationship between our countries," State Department spokeswoman Heather Nauert said in a statement on Thursday."In the spirit of parity invoked by the Russians, we are requiring the Russian Government to close its Consulate General in San Francisco, a chancery annex in Washington, D.C., and a consular annex in New York City," Nauert said. "These closures will need to be accomplished by September 2."
FLPanhandle
(7,107 posts)No way Trump signed off on this without objections.
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)Hassin Bin Sober
(26,325 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)That's great!
FoxNewsSucks
(10,429 posts)They got the right writers, and it is so true and hilarious.
The only bad thing is that he's so good at impersonating the pussygrabber that I can barely stand to watch it sometimes. I am so fucking sick of tRump and his butthole mouth that it's hard to watch.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,325 posts).... I didn't know until last week that there was an actual show.
Alec Baldwin is great for lampooning Trump's impersonation but this guy really has Trump down
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)misanthrope
(7,411 posts)Because it's too true.
berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)Hassin Bin Sober
(26,325 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Zoonart
(11,851 posts)you're the puppet."
Closer and Closer
BigmanPigman
(51,584 posts)dividing the country. Seems fair to me.
Bleacher Creature
(11,256 posts)At some point, the relationship between Trump and Putin will crumble. And the moment that happens, Putin will consider Trump's presidency to be more harmful than not.
And when that happens, it'll be time to release a certain tape . . .
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)Leith
(7,809 posts)that a pee-pee tape would be the least of PINO's worries. Russian has lots more that is more damning than shitgibbon and prostitutes pissing on a bed. The trumpanzees would like the tape.
LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)And when that happens, it'll be time to release a certain tape . . ."
TOTALLY agree with your assessment, and it feels like that time may be coming sooner rather than later.
maveric
(16,445 posts)Just a quick ask.
mopinko
(70,086 posts)as you need. they do most of the same things.
Pope George Ringo II
(1,896 posts)Consulates are anywhere else. Embassies have the ambassador, consulates have consuls. If you need a visa, a passport, information, or whatever you'll never worry about the difference. Really the difference is that ambassadors get to talk to the host country's diplomatic personnel on things private citizens don't. Sometimes a big business deal involves the embassy, but it's mostly about government-to-government contact.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)You find Consulates in the rest of the country and some towns and these can many times be in someone house. It's like the Embassy has a bunch of delegates that can do the small stuff for it.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,848 posts)set up to deal with specific issues.
A while back I was a paralegal for an attorney, now a U.S. Citizen, who'd grown up in Peru. Once during the year or so I worked for him, his office became a temporary consulate for a day to handle some legal issues for local Peruvians.
maveric
(16,445 posts)😎
MontanaMama
(23,307 posts)Now, who locked 45 in the closet to get this done?
Not Ruth
(3,613 posts)Igel
(35,300 posts)You need some hefty administrative processing to get a visa to Russia, and every summer a lot of students and researchers heading there for study have their visa processing backed up well into August. There's almost always angst on SEELangs over this. SEELangs is the Slavic and East European Language listserv that Russianists and Slavists set up for keeping in touch with each other and current on issues confronting the Slavist community. (A "Slavist" studies things Slavic, and SEELangs is mostly language, linguistics, and literature, from Slavic librarians to faculty to high school teachers to professional translators and historians or political scientists. I think Brits call us "Slavicists" but they also say "Slavonic" languages and not "Slavic".)
My oral fluency in Russian was never what it should have been because I didn't study there. For most Slavists a stint in-country in a language study program, an immersion program, or even as an ESL teacher really helps them as undergrads and as grads. You want things like this. In fact, Title VI is set up to make sure that understudied but strategically important languages and cultures have grad students and researchers funded. (Even if the faculty usually reduce the language study requirement to something entirely pro forma and use the Title VI funding to encourage not language acquisition and competence but fund students who are going to go on to be researchers and faculty in things unrelated to strategic or national security.)
Back in the '70s when I started studying the language most of my parents' peers were like, "Why are you studying a communist language?"
My response was simple. In WWI we had a large German-speaking community in the US and getting US-citizen translators for German was a piece of cake. After WWI German was an "enemy" language and those communities quickly transitioned to English, so that by the US entrance into WWII we had a real shortfall of German translators and interpreters. This severely hurt interrogation of prisoners, translation of intelligence intercepts, and the ability to send people behind German lines. They had to set up crash courses in German, and that's not a good thing. German was not just out of vogue for study by US citizens it was frowned upon for a decade or two, and immigrants weren't considered trustworthy. Japanese had the same problem, but it didn't go from having a surfeit of linguistic skills by those who could easily get clearance to virtually none. It started out near none and just stayed there. Japanese was not a prestige language.
It's likely that Russia will prioritize economic visas more than educational visas. That's in *their* self interest. Educational visas are in the US' interests.
leftstreet
(36,106 posts)Wasn't it Peskov who just confirmed it?
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,327 posts)ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)What will we get tomorrow that will fuel the news cycle over the weekend?
Weekend Warrior
(1,301 posts)I thought the administration thought it was beneficial to us.
mercuryblues
(14,530 posts)Someone in those consulates are ratting on trump. This closure is to flesh him/her out and stop the leaks.
Pachamama
(16,887 posts)C Moon
(12,212 posts)in an attempt to save Putin's newly bought country.
ffr
(22,669 posts)Fucking no good Russians!
lark
(23,094 posts)How dare we retaliate against his BFF, Pootie.
Not Ruth
(3,613 posts)ailsagirl
(22,896 posts)Squinch
(50,949 posts)I wonder what his thoughts are about how to cut his losses.
RecoveringJournalist
(148 posts)I honestly don't care if Trumplestiltskin was forced or anything. This needed to happen. He needs to be putin his place.
malaise
(268,949 posts)Rec
BainsBane
(53,031 posts)They are closing in on him.
malaise
(268,949 posts)Hope they have him too