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Sun Sep 10, 2017, 08:44 PM

Election 2016 Memoirs: A Tale of Two Standards

Where's the media outcry for failure to take responsibility for the loss? Where's the outrage for the attack?


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Reply Election 2016 Memoirs: A Tale of Two Standards (Original post)
lapucelle Sep 2017 OP
mcar Sep 2017 #1
murielm99 Sep 2017 #2
KitSileya Sep 2017 #7
NurseJackie Sep 2017 #14
DURHAM D Sep 2017 #3
BainsBane Sep 2017 #4
JHan Sep 2017 #6
JHan Sep 2017 #5
murielm99 Sep 2017 #8
JHan Sep 2017 #11
BainsBane Sep 2017 #13
KitSileya Sep 2017 #9
JHan Sep 2017 #10
uponit7771 Sep 2017 #12
BainsBane Sep 2017 #15
R B Garr Sep 2017 #16
BainsBane Sep 2017 #17
R B Garr Sep 2017 #18
BainsBane Sep 2017 #19
R B Garr Sep 2017 #21
mythology Sep 2017 #20
JI7 Sep 2017 #22

Response to lapucelle (Original post)

Sun Sep 10, 2017, 08:56 PM

1. I await the criticism here

From those who expressed outrage that Hillary dared to criticize Bernie.......

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Response to lapucelle (Original post)

Sun Sep 10, 2017, 09:17 PM

2. How many years has Bernie been in Congress?

Around twenty-five, right? Doesn't that mean he has been inside the Beltway for a long, long time? And he couldn't get any endorsements from his colleagues?

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Response to murielm99 (Reply #2)

Sun Sep 10, 2017, 10:25 PM

7. I didn't realize until now that Sanders went to D.C.

TWO years before the Clintons! And he has the gall to accuse others of being establishment? What, has establishment suddenly changed to mean able to work with others to achieve one's goal?

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Response to KitSileya (Reply #7)

Mon Sep 11, 2017, 08:23 AM

14. I didn't realize that LGBT groups could be characterized as being "establishment"...

... or bundled together in that "guilty-by-association" way of phrasing things. What reason would anyone have to talk about LGBT groups with that "inside the beltway" negative connotation? Why the resentment and belly-aching?

But, returning to the point of the OP... the double-standard is clear to see if anyone cares to look, and the to be HONEST about what they see.

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Response to lapucelle (Original post)

Sun Sep 10, 2017, 09:41 PM

3. Poor baby. nt

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Response to lapucelle (Original post)

Sun Sep 10, 2017, 10:02 PM

4. Do you suppose the media pundits

And other critics forgot about that? Or perhaps they never even read Bernie's book?

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #4)

Sun Sep 10, 2017, 10:17 PM

6. it doesn't matter to them.

I'm part of the converted. I now understand it doesn't matter what she says or how she says it, it will be misconstrued, truncated, dissected, overblown. The usual fuckery.

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Response to lapucelle (Original post)

Sun Sep 10, 2017, 10:04 PM

5. Yes, there's a gross double standard.

No surprises.

I was always amused by the claim that those groups who endorsed HRC were "establishment".

"Establishment": The word that became an albatross hung round the neck of the dem candidate ALL of 2016.

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Response to JHan (Reply #5)

Sun Sep 10, 2017, 10:27 PM

8. Planned Parenthood.

Remember that?

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Response to murielm99 (Reply #8)

Sun Sep 10, 2017, 10:31 PM

11. Yes, now the Republicans are salivating at knocking the wind out of Planned parenthood...

to the detriment of women everywhere.

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Response to murielm99 (Reply #8)

Mon Sep 11, 2017, 08:08 AM

13. Yes, the establishment

Who risk their lives providing healthcare to the poorest women in America, who face bomb threats and doctors being murdered.

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Response to JHan (Reply #5)

Sun Sep 10, 2017, 10:27 PM

9. Lol

Establishment: able (and willing) to work with others to acheve one's goals (and change society for the better, bit by bit.)

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Response to KitSileya (Reply #9)

Sun Sep 10, 2017, 10:29 PM

10. Yes, essentially..

I still can't get over it, it was mystifying then.. remains so now, ESPECIALLY now.

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Response to JHan (Reply #5)

Mon Sep 11, 2017, 05:29 AM

12. +1

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Response to lapucelle (Original post)

Mon Sep 11, 2017, 03:29 PM

15. Interesting how those who excoriated Clinton for

failing to "look forward" have ignored this thread.

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #15)

Mon Sep 11, 2017, 03:37 PM

16. Wow, I just saw this. Thanks for kicking it!

Yes, it is interesting that this thread is being ignored. Those are a bunch of nasty distortions in that book quote. Shows the inherent divisiveness.

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Response to R B Garr (Reply #16)

Mon Sep 11, 2017, 03:48 PM

17. All those LGBT, union, environmental, and abortion rights

"establishment" types.

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #17)

Mon Sep 11, 2017, 05:36 PM

18. Yeah, it's not a plot against anyone for the base of the party to actually support

the Democrat who was running before he decided how to best promote his candidacy.

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Response to R B Garr (Reply #18)

Mon Sep 11, 2017, 05:54 PM

19. and who worked for years establishing relationships

which Sanders had every opportunity to do, since he got to DC before Hillary.

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #19)

Mon Sep 11, 2017, 07:45 PM

21. She literally worked on a personal level for years -- decades -- on establishing

relationships, all over the United States and all over the world. I still listen to her book, Hard Choices, on audio in the car, and it's just amazing how many people she touched and knew and how long it took to build that level of camaraderie.

It's obvious reading this excerpt from his book that there are carefully chosen buzzwords in his recollections, all of which support a divisive position to whip up some interest, so to speak, lol. And he has been in DC longer than Hillary, interesting! That would qualify as establishment, no doubt.


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Response to lapucelle (Original post)

Mon Sep 11, 2017, 06:05 PM

20. This was debated as part of the primaries

 

It was a stupid argument on Sanders part then too.

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Response to lapucelle (Original post)

Mon Sep 11, 2017, 10:05 PM

22. when did that come out ?

 

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