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Well CNN is being an obedient corporation (Original Post) jorno67 Jul 2012 OP
Ermm.. what facts? ananda Jul 2012 #1
Gergen has dealings with Bain and Romney going way back millijac Jul 2012 #2
Yes, this should be highlighted! Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2012 #16
Didn't Gergen admit to being paid by Bain? n/t FSogol Jul 2012 #3
Maybe Gergen has connections to Bain? WI_DEM Jul 2012 #4
Gergen has admitted ties to Bain. He disclosed on CNN once before. Zen Democrat Jul 2012 #5
I don't understand that either. pa28 Jul 2012 #10
What charges? I wasn't aware Obama had made any charges tularetom Jul 2012 #6
Actually, the article does not match the headline. RagAss Jul 2012 #7
CNN had the SwiftBoaters on daily in 2004 KurtNYC Jul 2012 #8
Mr. Bohemian Grove himself... Comrade_McKenzie Jul 2012 #9
Gergen's own words: Summer Hathaway Jul 2012 #11
CNN is pure propaganda, they don't do "facts" just1voice Jul 2012 #12
Bitter old has-been who's just just pouting because the Obama White House Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2012 #13
Gergen and facts appearing together ... LMAO lpbk2713 Jul 2012 #14
CNN is every bit as sold out as FOX! Hubert Flottz Jul 2012 #15

Zen Democrat

(5,901 posts)
5. Gergen has admitted ties to Bain. He disclosed on CNN once before.
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 03:40 PM
Jul 2012

Therefore, I don't understand why he doesn't recuse himself from commenting on Bain. He said he has "close personal and financial ties" to the firm.

pa28

(6,145 posts)
10. I don't understand that either.
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 03:54 PM
Jul 2012

He spills ink all over the place disclosing his many ties to Bain. Great, so he wins an award for his honesty.

But once you reach the end of his very impressive list of personal and financial connections to Bain you wonder why any editor would even allow such a self serving PR item to be published.

Gergen goes on about how trustworthy and philanthropic these people are but then, hilariously, peppers disclaimers all over the place: 'What we know now', 'facts could change', 'the evidence so far'.

So you ask once again. Why is he commenting and how did the editor conclude this piece had any value at all other than PR support for the Romney campaign?

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
6. What charges? I wasn't aware Obama had made any charges
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 03:43 PM
Jul 2012

He asked a few questions about Romney's dealings at Bain but he didn't make any "charges".

Besides if Romney releases his tax returns that would probably answer the questions Obama asked.

Looks pretty straightforward to me. I know this Gargoyle or WTF his name is wants to help out his old boss but he's not helping. Better if he'd just STFU.

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
8. CNN had the SwiftBoaters on daily in 2004
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 03:47 PM
Jul 2012

they sold the Sadam has WMDs thing, projected Ohio and Florida in 2004 for Bush, etc. Fox-lite.

Summer Hathaway

(2,770 posts)
11. Gergen's own words:
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 04:22 PM
Jul 2012
"I have a past relationship with the top partners at Bain that is both personal and financial."

"When the story first broke Thursday in The Boston Globe suggesting that Romney and Bain had fudged, CNN asked if I would do some reporting."

Was CNN expecting Gergen, given his admitted relationship with top partners at Bain, to "do some reporting" that would be completely truthful and without bias?

"I reached two of the top people whom I know in the company and, on background, they told me the same story that Bain sources told CNN's John King."

Is this meant to serve as some kind of corroboration: "They told me the same story they told someone else"?

"Both partners with whom I spoke firmly and unequivocally said that after he physically left in February 1999, Romney no longer made decisions for Bain regarding investments, hiring, firing or any other management issues.

Could these Bain partners now be lying? Possibly. On a rare occasion in the past, when I was wearing a reporter's hat, a friend has lied to me for self-protection. But based on relationships over several years, I trust his or her account."


In other words, Gergen admits to having been lied to before, but trusts those who have lied to him nonetheless?

That's some hard-hitting journalism there.

 

just1voice

(1,362 posts)
12. CNN is pure propaganda, they don't do "facts"
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 04:25 PM
Jul 2012

When people get that simple notion they stop responding to the MSMedia propagandists. Here's a simple definition of propaganda, it perfectly described CNN and all other MSMedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda

---Propaganda is a form of communication that is aimed at influencing the attitude of a community toward some cause or position. Propaganda is usually repeated and dispersed over a wide variety of media in order to create the chosen result in audience attitudes.

As opposed to impartially providing information, propaganda, in its most basic sense, presents information primarily to influence an audience. Propaganda often presents facts selectively (thus possibly lying by omission) to encourage a particular synthesis, or uses loaded messages to produce an emotional rather than rational response to the information presented. The desired result is a change of the attitude toward the subject in the target audience to further a political agenda. Propaganda can be used as a form of political warfare.---

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,500 posts)
13. Bitter old has-been who's just just pouting because the Obama White House
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 04:28 PM
Jul 2012

hasn't kissed his useless ass like past administrations. And as stated above on top of that he's a Bain tool.

Hubert Flottz

(37,726 posts)
15. CNN is every bit as sold out as FOX!
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 04:32 PM
Jul 2012

I NEVER watch either one. If they lie to you about one thing, you have got to wonder if they're not lying all the time. CNN's has used up all the credibility capital Ted Turner ever earned for CNN. CNN has become a training camp for FOX noise/neocon propagandists. They even have Fred Thompson on their damned commercials. The "Guest" commentators CNN has on there are all neocon flunkies and pimps.

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