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Wed Sep 13, 2017, 02:02 PM

Jonathan Chait: Bernie Sanderss Bill Gets America Zero Percent Closer to Single Payer

Jonathan Chait writes today for the New York Magazine. Excerpt:

The bill does not contain any tax increases, leaving those to a separate piece of legislation. A nonspecific health-care plan that lacks a plausible financing system has accomplished approximately zero percent of the necessary work, as the Republicans discovered this year.

There is nothing in Sandersís rhetoric that indicates he even recognizes the shape of the political problem. Instead he employs the classic populist technique of imagining the people as a whole standing united around an obvious solution, and only the machinations of an invidious elite can thwart them.

Read more: :http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/09/sanderss-bill-gets-u-s-zero-percent-closer-to-single-payer.html

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Reply Jonathan Chait: Bernie Sanderss Bill Gets America Zero Percent Closer to Single Payer (Original post)
Pugster Wednesday OP
The Velveteen Ocelot Wednesday #1
ProfessorGAC Wednesday #2
comradebillyboy Wednesday #3
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SaschaHM Wednesday #5
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Hoyt Wednesday #7
GaryCnf Wednesday #8
Pugster Wednesday #9
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brooklynite Wednesday #11
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Response to Pugster (Original post)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 02:06 PM

2. Dumb

Buried in the minutia and completely failing to comprehend any symbolic value in getting the issue out there, front and center.

Do i think it short term likely? No. To suggest it's valueless because of the details haven't been resolved is just silly.

He can drone all he wants about the "populist technique", but that's how LBJ operated and after YEARS of effort, he got what he wanted and millions benefitted.

Chait should pull this article back.

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Response to Pugster (Original post)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 02:08 PM

3. Chait is right on this one...

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Response to Pugster (Original post)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 02:09 PM

4. K&R

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Response to Pugster (Original post)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 02:11 PM

5. Did anyone expect the bill to be anything more than "Repeal and Replace" for Democrats?

As soon as people started hopping on to the bill (that probably won't make it out of committee), it was clear that this would not be making any of the hard and (depending on the constituency) politically perilous decisions necessary to implement Single Payer.

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Response to Pugster (Original post)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 02:11 PM

6. Maybe because republicans control congress

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Response to Pugster (Original post)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 02:11 PM

7. Ignoring the political realities, the criticism I have seen is that his bill provides no

funding mechanism or estimate of the cost to the average Jane.

Even California had to mothball the single payer effort for the time being.

We get we need it and it will be good for us, but you can't just leave it at that. It would be great to have 100% coverage for health, dental and vision.

Right now, might as well have a bill that proposes to eradicate cancer.

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Response to Pugster (Original post)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 03:12 PM

8. Tear





Conyers et al. in the House, Sanders et al. in the Senate = the COURAGE to stand for SOMETHING = victory in 2018

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Response to GaryCnf (Reply #8)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 03:33 PM

9. I will call it courage when the CBO estimates are out

How's that.

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Response to Pugster (Reply #9)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 03:42 PM

10. Ironic, isn't it?

Harris, Booker, and, in fact, EVERY rising star among Democratic senators standing with Bernie and nothing left for the folks who want anything with Bernie's name on it to fail to do but to hope that they all go down.

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Response to GaryCnf (Reply #8)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 04:22 PM

11. They stood for that in 2010, 2014 and 2016...

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #11)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 04:52 PM

12. No, John Conyers

and less than a third of House Democrats AT MOST "stood for that" (what was the high point before, 55 in the house in 2015?) while the "experts" controlling the political leadership all said it was pie in the sky "everyone gets a pony" political gamesmanship, just like they are doing now.

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Response to Pugster (Original post)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 05:12 PM

13. Chait is spot on here.

 

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