To Those That Think This Current Offensive Against Romney Is "Too Soon"

[Ikonoklast]

and will be forgotten by election day, I hate to tell you this.

The 'drip, drip, drip' of information about Romney, his taxes, his reign at Bain Capital, his off-shore accounts is soon to turn into a firehouse connected to hydrant with a broken shutoff valve that all the money in the world will not be able to stop.

This was just the start of what is to come.

By October, Willard will be melting under the onslaught coming from the Obama campaign.

Cripe, he has no real answer to any of these questions right now.

His campaign was caught completely flat-footed over something they should have known was coming.

Do you think they will be able to effectively counter what else in in the works?

They got struck amidships by a torpedo, there are three more fish in the water running hot and true, and they have no freaking clue as to what direction they are coming from.

[democrat_patriot]

1. They were expecting Dems to cover for them (Like they did re: Bain a month ago).

No dems this time - just R's asking for tax returns....

They were not prepared for this.

[GoCubsGo]

25. It kind of makes you wonder...

Were Booker's and Rendell's comments a head fake? Did they say all that stuff supporting Bain to give the illusion that the Dems were fighting over the Bain issue, and therefore weren't going to go there regarding Romney because some of them were sympathetic?

[monmouth]

2. The sooner POTUS hits 50% the better IMO. It will be difficult for $money to catch up...n/t

[Ikonoklast]

3. I don't believe those polls trying to keep it a horse race.

I think that Republican internal polling has them more than a little nervous, and Democratic internal polling has them more than a little optimistic.

Romney will need to go even more negative in order to counter the current trendline, which will then make him look desperate as he continues to refuse to answer the questions about Bain, taxes, offshore money, etc.

[Sheepshank]

4. Honestly, all of Romney's responses caught on tape, can be used to continue the onslaught

Romney strategy right now seems to attempt to downplay all these issues being raised. Their best defense is to attempt to make them into non issues as quickly and as dismissively as possible, hoping voters will forget.

It's only on further investigation and further discussion that the importance of these Bain, tax returns and other issues are being truly appreciated. It's like a trial lawyer teasing out every since nuance of a case to the jury. You think a question is inane and of no import until a response is given and woven into the whole fabric of the crime scene.

All this time and over the next few months, evidence is being gathered, rehashed and put into context of new revelations that keep trickling in....the old info is constantly being braught back for analysis.

It's a brilliant legal court strategy and not too surprising it's being used by Obama.

It's not too early to attack Romney on Bain, on his mismanagment of Mass and any other issue. In order to use his responses for follow up ads...Team Obama has to leave plenty of time for the production of those new follow up ads. That will ensure people won't forget the issue or how he is handling the issue. It's like the next installment of a soap opera.

[Ikonoklast]

14. Wealthy corporate vulture capitalists always seem to make more than a few enemies along the way.

And they have information about those dealings which they keep close at hand, ready to be used at the proper moment by the right person when it will do their former adversary the maximum damage.

One must stay aware of those they screw over on their journey through life, as they are most certainly are still aware of you.

[coalition_unwilling]

16. Romney seems to be channeling his inner Nixon:

PRESIDENT: You think, you think we want to, want to go this route now? And the--let it hang out, so to speak?

DEAN: Well, it's, it isn't really that--

HALDEMAN: It's a limited hang out.

DEAN: It's a limited hang out.

EHRLICHMAN: It's a modified limited hang out.

PRESIDENT: Well, it's only the questions of the thing hanging out publicly or privately.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limited_hangout

[Spitfire of ATJ]

24. .....sheeze,.....sounds like someone's fly is open.....

[coalition_unwilling]

32. Tee-hee-hee. I agree there is that sort of

scatological sub-text at play

[KharmaTrain]

5. The Best Defense...

Team Obama knew that they'd be facing over a billion dollars in lies, distortions and other Rove and SuperPac games against them. They saw how Willard was carpet bombing his opponents during the primaries and could see the big advertising buys being made in advance of the Fall campaign. The need for a pre-emptive and hard hitting strike was apparent and looks as though Team Obama has scored a big hit.

Politics is perception and the more questions you put about your opponent the more often you'll put them on their heels...and this is especially the case with Rmoney who had never had to answer for his "strengths" in past campaigns that showed them to be vulnerabilities. Peel away a layer and you start seeing his narrative isn't quite what it appears to be...and Team Obama appears to have more layers to go...and so far Mittens has little to respond with.

Next we'll see Willard's Olympic's "service" examined and how he turned that into a self-serving money grab of public/federal money. And there's more to come.

In his zeal for power, Mittens has made a lot of enemies out there...including a good number on his side of the sandbox. He's running from more than he's running for right now...

Cheers...

[steve2470]

8. +1 nt

[BumRushDaShow]

11. Shock and Awe

to re-use that oft-uttered phrase. Guess you have to thank the authors of the doctrine who released it while Clinton was in office in 1996 (and it was implemented under Shrub):

The goal of Rapid Dominance will be to destroy or so confound the will to resist that an adversary will have no alternative except to accept our strategic aims and military objectives. To achieve this outcome, Rapid Dominance must control the operational environment and through that domi- nance, control what the adversary perceives, understands, and knows, as well as control or regulate what is not perceived, understood, or known.


http://www.dodccrp.org/files/Ullman_Shock.pdf

[BumRushDaShow]

6. The rethugs glamorized the Gordon Gekko persona

and assumed that everyone else did too. Rmoney's trail seems to make Gekko and one of his real life counterparts - Michael Milken- look like an amateur.

[Proud Public Servant]

7. I've said this before about businessmen

turned presidential candidates: they have no experience dealing with tough questions or dogged opposition. They spend their careers surrounded by sycophants, both internally and in the business press; at some level, I think they just can't believe there are no longer people fawning over them. Same thing happened with Trump, and with Perot. Being a CEO is the worst possible background you could have if you expect to run for president.

[Ikonoklast]

9. You can't fire a Senator who calls you on your B.S.

You can't downsize the House of Representatives to only those that support your agenda.

You can't expect to make a bad decision and not be held accountable by a friendly board who you hand-picked.

You can't tell the voting citizenry if they don't like it, too bad, like a CEO tells captive customers and hope to survive politically.

[coalition_unwilling]

18. "They're smiling in your face\All the time

they want to take your place\The back stabbers (backstabbers)"

As true now as when the O'Jays sang it

[Stuart G]

10. It is not too soon..You are correct...nt..

[Overseas]

12. I agree. It isn't too soon and the best ads can be run again later.

Hope Democrats keep up the vicious ads.

The "You Lie" Party doesn't have a leg to stand on in arguing for civility. We just need Mitch McConnell's declaration about their primary goal-- above country and constituents-- to make sure our president is not re-elected.

And that's the party that flashed all those "Country First" placards when foisting Palin upon us.

[MyshkinCommaPrince]

13. Not too soon

I don't think it's too soon, but I do hope they have more that can be brought forward in coming weeks and months. I'm not convinced that this, alone, will be enough to get the point across. We're easily distracted, as a culture, and the other side has mounds of moolah to throw into confusing, distracting, or manipulate the populace, or to try to raise dissatisfaction with both parties and the political process and reduce voter turnout.

[coalition_unwilling]

15. RMoney could always go nuclear:

[JHB]

17. One more thing: look at how he's acted and reacted

All of his responses and statements since this came out have been textbook legalese MBA-speak. He's overly-specific about some things but never really answers the questions, and gets extremely defensive at the suggestion that do more than the absolute minimum he can get away with.

"If I give them more they'll just find something else to ask for". Well, let them. Show everything and make them look like birthers if they keep moving the goalposts.

"I've followed the law and showed everything I need to." So what? Do more. You're running for president for Pete's sake, Mitt. Nobody's obligated to vote for you.


If he wants people to believe him, he can show everything. All his tax returns, all his Bain papers, every last cent in every account he and his wife have (no "worth between this and that millions", how about a real number) in this country and offshore, in blind trust or numbered accounts. Everything.

[Tanuki]

19. They needed to hit hard before the Olympics

Mutt and Mrs. Ann would have been preening and posturing all over the place, and using it as a victory lap of Mutt's glory days of "saving the Olympics" in 2002. As it is now, he has a major Bain-cloud hanging over his head, and people will be reminded of the vast sums of tax money they wrote off pampering their dancing horse

[backscatter712]

20. Also, bear in mind that the strategy includes downticket races.

We still need time to tie GOP congressional candidates & other candidates to the anchor named Mitt Romney before we drop them all in the Marianas Trench...

That's the strategy - any Republican that voted to kill jobs, or block funds for teachers/firefighters/veterans/etc., or who attacked Social Security/Medicare/Medicaid, or who voted to help outsourcers, bail out banksters, or foreclose on peoples' homes is to be tied to Mitt Romney's coattails of big-buisiness-at-the-expense-of-the-middle-class.

[Ikonoklast]

21. "Mr. Wannabe Republican Congressman, do you support Mitt Romney NOT PAYING ANY TAXES?"

"I er, uh, Capitalism Good! Class Warfare! NO! Wait...YES!"

This question should be asked of every Republican turd running fo office.

[oldhippydude]

22. BINGO!!! n/t

[ryan_cats]

23. Not a problem for me as long as they keep it coming!

Not a problem for me as long as they keep it coming!

It seems that each day the problems for rmoney are snowballing and once it reaches critical mass, he'll never be able to get in front of it.

I wonder if Newt is chewing the carpet over his being 'disenfranchised' heh heh.

[blm]

26. Agreed - people will be tuning out from the barrage of ads in the fall. They won't trust Romney by

the end of summer because they're being told the truth about him now.

[patrice]

27. And even if they could switch candidates, it would do them no good, maybe even more harm.

The only card they have left to play is to do what Cheney is suggesting: 9/11 2.0 which could take a variety of very subversive forms I suppose and even then the only thing they'll get out of that will be chaos, a split in the electorate that grows and solidifies Republicans/Libertarians/Conservatives/Tea-Partyers and certain kinds of Anarchists on one side and Democrats/Liberals/Leftists/Socialists on the other.

[Motown_Johnny]

28. Bleh, a few weeks ago people were saying that he missed the chance

to define his opponent early.


Some people will never be happy.

[Zalatix]

29. It's time for Obama to either

1) Attack Romney's crappy job creation in MA, which in no way can he spin doctor away.

47th in job creation 47th in job creation 47th in job creation 47th in job creation fucking jackhammer that point in until every time someone sees Romney's face they see "47 47 47 47 47".

Remind the world of what Bain Capital did to KB toys. Do not let anyone forget that.

Start sending "Romney = Robbedme" memes in the internet undercurrents. Let THAT become a popular meme and Rmoney's campaign is over.

2) Tout Obama's job creation record. The ACA. His victories against China in the WTO. Make this the primary direction of his ad campaign starting around mid-August, while still not letting up on tactic #1.

Obama's gotta stomp Rmoney's campaign. Stomp it now.

[Blue Meany]

30. At the heart of this issue is character...

Romney has lived the life of a selfish, privileged bully. Everything he did in his career was out of self-interest. Consequently, there is a lot's fuel to add to the fire. There's been no discussion yet of 2002 Winter Olympics in which he doled out lucrative contracts. Given who he is, there are bound to be intersections between the olympics and Bain and with his political career. Same with his time as Governor of Mass. We are bound to find conflicts of interest and crony capitalism because that's how he operates. The only thing to which he has any loyalty beyond his family is the Mormon Church. And there lots of connections between Bain, and Mormon-owned companies, usually based in Utah (and they didn't suffer layoffs or factory closings). When coupled with outsourcing, predatory capitalism of other companies, and tax evasion, it does raise the question of how much loyalty he has to America. So...there is plenty of ammunition to keep him on the defensive throughout the campaign.

Obama has led a different sort of life, much more focused on public service. For this reason, there is so much to find that would be explosive to the campaign. Republicans have to lie, distort, or take out of context to attack Obama in this same way.

[politicasista]

31. He had to do this

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even if it done to demean other Democrats/surrogates. Not Obama's fault, but those that cover him.

[Doctor_J]

33. I'ts the same sad sacks who want to "stay on the high road"

a big reason we've been losing for 20 years.

[JoePhilly]

34. YUP ... this is the foundation on which the House of BAIN PAIN will be built on.