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RandySF

(58,786 posts)
Sat Dec 31, 2011, 07:12 PM Dec 2011

Obama has just won the 2012 presidential election.

Mitt Romney just promised to veto the Dream Act if he is president. He just delivered Colorado, Nevada, New Mexico and possibly even Florida and Arizona to Barack Obama on a silver platter. Game over. We win.

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Obama has just won the 2012 presidential election. (Original Post) RandySF Dec 2011 OP
It should be so easy...there will be a few bumps in the road... rfranklin Dec 2011 #1
Excuse my ignorance, but what is the dream act? quinnox Dec 2011 #2
The Latino voters know about it, that's why the OP lists the states s/he did. Viking12 Dec 2011 #5
You can't count on what Mitt says today... jorno67 Dec 2011 #3
Before counting on what Mitt says.... izquierdista Dec 2011 #22
that's really good! renate Jan 2012 #36
I am not convinced he will be the candidate. I still have my money on Jeb. nm rhett o rick Dec 2011 #4
They are saving Jeb for later. progdog Dec 2011 #6
+1 Little Star Dec 2011 #11
2016 Mz Pip Dec 2011 #15
And have a less fucked-up economy to deal with -- especially after they fucked it gateley Dec 2011 #26
As long as Kkkarl & Poppy breath, I don't orpupilofnature57 Dec 2011 #7
I believe KKKarl can take down any of the current batch of clowns rhett o rick Dec 2011 #17
I think that it will be Daniels/McDonnell this time around kepping Jeb for 2016. grantcart Dec 2011 #16
If they decide to wait until 2016 for Jeb, I believe it will be Mit / Michelle. nm rhett o rick Dec 2011 #18
Jeb will be the Veep thelordofhell Dec 2011 #19
I have toyed with that idea too, but I figured they rhett o rick Dec 2011 #23
Never happen...he would never settle for second fiddle. Take if from a Floridian. Lochloosa Dec 2011 #28
Papi bush didn't settle for it either thelordofhell Dec 2011 #31
The election is 11 months away and the American voters attention span is about 11 hours madokie Dec 2011 #8
Colorado won't forget DREAM. joshcryer Dec 2011 #9
I don't think Latino voters are going to forget the contrast. Joe the Revelator Dec 2011 #10
Me neither. pinto Dec 2011 #14
A great GOTV point for Dem's. The South West Dem groups, along with the rest nationally, pinto Dec 2011 #12
If only Romney were the nominee grantcart Dec 2011 #13
if only i was that simple.. oldhippydude Dec 2011 #20
It will definitely mobilize Latino voters for Dems......... marmar Dec 2011 #21
dont count on it bowens43 Dec 2011 #24
Which is actually dwarfed by Obama's signing of the NDAA ixion Dec 2011 #25
kick bigtree Dec 2011 #27
Although I think you are right don't discount GOP "voter agendas" Botany Dec 2011 #29
That is one amazing gift he gave Obama. Thanks Romulus! Firebrand Gary Dec 2011 #30
R#28 & K for, you beat me to it, & with BACHMANN waiting for divine intervention to win Iowa UTUSN Jan 2012 #32
In theory Gman Jan 2012 #33
Sweet. WilliamPitt Jan 2012 #34
Yeah.. sendero Jan 2012 #35
KnR 34 I Buying into this....Obama gonna win big time ...Mitt or no Mitt opihimoimoi Jan 2012 #37
It couldn't even pass through a Democratic Congress last year Ter Jan 2012 #38
 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
2. Excuse my ignorance, but what is the dream act?
Sat Dec 31, 2011, 07:14 PM
Dec 2011

And if I don't know about it, I don't know how many of the people who aren't obsessed with politics will know about it either.

jorno67

(1,986 posts)
3. You can't count on what Mitt says today...
Sat Dec 31, 2011, 07:14 PM
Dec 2011

he will be completely for the Dream Act when the time is right for him...

It's how he rolls.

Mz Pip

(27,439 posts)
15. 2016
Sat Dec 31, 2011, 07:30 PM
Dec 2011

They hope that 8 years will be enough time for people to forget what a fuckup his brother was.

gateley

(62,683 posts)
26. And have a less fucked-up economy to deal with -- especially after they fucked it
Sat Dec 31, 2011, 08:19 PM
Dec 2011

up even worse in their goal to make sure O is a one-termer.

 

orpupilofnature57

(15,472 posts)
7. As long as Kkkarl & Poppy breath, I don't
Sat Dec 31, 2011, 07:21 PM
Dec 2011

rule it out.They've got to stewing apprehension , and the fact they can't sell snake oil salesmen like they're used to.

thelordofhell

(4,569 posts)
19. Jeb will be the Veep
Sat Dec 31, 2011, 07:34 PM
Dec 2011

Then if by some miracle the repubs win, the President will be assassinated and Jeb will be the new President........it almost worked for his dad

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
23. I have toyed with that idea too, but I figured they
Sat Dec 31, 2011, 07:37 PM
Dec 2011

would go for the Knewt. Should he win, Karl would reveal something in his past that would require him (or threaten him) to step down. But assassination by a "terrorist" would allow them to invoke draconian powers.

thelordofhell

(4,569 posts)
31. Papi bush didn't settle for it either
Sat Dec 31, 2011, 11:50 PM
Dec 2011

That's why the bush family got John Hinckley to assassinate ronald reagan, only it didn't work.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
8. The election is 11 months away and the American voters attention span is about 11 hours
Sat Dec 31, 2011, 07:22 PM
Dec 2011

they'll forget all about this by the time the election gets here.

This is not true with many of us though, for us we remember.

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
9. Colorado won't forget DREAM.
Sat Dec 31, 2011, 07:24 PM
Dec 2011

I don't know about the other states but Colorado is guaranteed to be blue because of this.

pinto

(106,886 posts)
12. A great GOTV point for Dem's. The South West Dem groups, along with the rest nationally,
Sat Dec 31, 2011, 07:29 PM
Dec 2011

ought to keep this promise in view.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
13. If only Romney were the nominee
Sat Dec 31, 2011, 07:29 PM
Dec 2011

It is quite possible Tuesday that Romney gets both a lower percent and and fewer caucus supporters than 4 years ago. That he is not in third or fourth place is only because there are 6 running diluting the anti Romney vote.

He may win some primaries but ironically will look weaker and weaker causing the party to coalesce around one of the Governors at the convention when no candidate comes in with more than 35% of the delegates.

oldhippydude

(2,514 posts)
20. if only i was that simple..
Sat Dec 31, 2011, 07:34 PM
Dec 2011

i agree that we need to keep this up front, in the general election in November... what scares me is the voter Id laws, frankly the manipulation of election data, and the unlimited funds thanks to Citizens United...

these positions wont hold on a level playing field.. but these folks have it tilted to thier advantage..


and by the way South Carolina has a large hispanic base too!!

marmar

(77,077 posts)
21. It will definitely mobilize Latino voters for Dems.........
Sat Dec 31, 2011, 07:36 PM
Dec 2011

....... but it will also perhaps motivate the nativist right-wing who aren't too sold on Mitt right now.


Botany

(70,501 posts)
29. Although I think you are right don't discount GOP "voter agendas"
Sat Dec 31, 2011, 11:35 PM
Dec 2011

Last edited Sun Jan 1, 2012, 12:34 AM - Edit history (1)

Even though we in DU are painted as the fringe we tend to represent the majority
of the Americans.

Add up the people the republicans have pissed off:

gays
women
hispanics
blacks
workers
democrats
environmentalists
people of faith .... who are not wing nuts
students
the unemployed
the under employed
intellectuals
the middle class
people who support the arts

Mitt's "tin ear" as per the Latino vote shows why voter suppression and election
rigging along w/ control of the media has to be part of the republican plan.

sorry to babble


It should be game over not only for the POTUS but for the Congressional races too.




UTUSN

(70,684 posts)
32. R#28 & K for, you beat me to it, & with BACHMANN waiting for divine intervention to win Iowa
Sun Jan 1, 2012, 12:13 AM
Jan 2012

it's just belly laugh after belly laugh!1 (For now. I'm not counting chickens.)

Gman

(24,780 posts)
33. In theory
Sun Jan 1, 2012, 12:12 PM
Jan 2012

Reality says its always been a challenge to get Hispanics to the polls. If Hispanics voted according to their numbers there would be a lot less Repubs in office.

 

Ter

(4,281 posts)
38. It couldn't even pass through a Democratic Congress last year
Sun Jan 1, 2012, 01:55 PM
Jan 2012

The majority of people and politicians oppose it, this won't hurt him at all.

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