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jillan

(39,451 posts)
Tue Jul 17, 2012, 02:47 PM Jul 2012

I have a theory about Mitt's tax returns and what he's hiding.

I used to work at a large corporation. One of the woman in my office was a Mormon.

This corporation's charity of choice was the United Way. Every year they had a big fund drive for the UW.
One year I was put in charge of collecting donations from the staff in our office. If we got 100% participation we would get pizza or some other form of bribery.

Everyone was willing to donate at least $1 or two - except this one Mormon woman.
She flat out told me that the only place that she will donate to is her church - even knowing that everyone else in our staff of 20 had donated - she wouldn't budge. It was the Mormon church and nothing else. Good for her, she stood up to what she believed in, inspite of pissing off all of her co-workers. Inspite of helping someone in need that wasn't a member of her church.

So this is my theory of what I think Mitt is hiding.
I think his tax returns will show that he paid more to the Mormon Church than he did in taxes - by quite alot.
I *believe* that Mormons are supposed to donate 10% of their earnings to the church - and with Mitt's megamillions, he probably invested a whole lot more in Mormons than the pittance he re-invested in America.

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I have a theory about Mitt's tax returns and what he's hiding. (Original Post) jillan Jul 2012 OP
I think that's an excellent point ... Kristina A Jul 2012 #1
A definite possibility. sadbear Jul 2012 #2
Possible but what if said church folks formed one of the shell companies malaise Jul 2012 #3
this isn't a very big deal to most people. Offshore and swiss accounts are much more likely cbdo2007 Jul 2012 #4
I guess it could be SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #5
The Mormon church isn't a charity. sadbear Jul 2012 #7
Then there would be no reason for it to show up on his tax returns SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #10
What do you mean? Marcia Brady Jul 2012 #11
good point. do you get a tax cut for donatng to any church? Whisp Jul 2012 #17
Yes, you do SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #21
maybe Rmoney is afraid of the Mormon church finding out Whisp Jul 2012 #23
Could be n/t SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #24
That is a possibility but it can't be what the Obama team is driving toward KurtNYC Jul 2012 #6
I'm elbows-deep in the oppo file XemaSab Jul 2012 #8
In 2010 (Romney's only released tax return) he paid the LDS $1.5 million banned from Kos Jul 2012 #9
I think he's hiding the simple fact that he's paid amost NO taxes. Marr Jul 2012 #12
I think you have hit the proverbial nail on the proverbial head. Lint Head Jul 2012 #13
Nope, I never gave to United Way, Wasted too much money on parties. hollysmom Jul 2012 #14
Definitely a possibility. HopeHoops Jul 2012 #15
You're right, it is 10%. lady lib Jul 2012 #16
My guess is he probably paid little or no taxes one of those years DefenseLawyer Jul 2012 #18
The company my wife works for has a heavy Mormon influence. JoePhilly Jul 2012 #19
Good for her! I always hated working for companies and having to deal with the nasty strong armed madinmaryland Jul 2012 #20
This theory was mentioned on the news shows as a possibility - Romney's father donated 19% to the Liberal_in_LA Jul 2012 #22

Kristina A

(18 posts)
1. I think that's an excellent point ...
Tue Jul 17, 2012, 03:07 PM
Jul 2012

I haven't posted much on DU, but I certainly think you're possibly onto something. Perhaps part of the reason he isn't releasing his information is due to his ties to the Mormon Church. Exposing any corruption within the church would not only be damaging to his failing campaign, but just as damaging to the church.

malaise

(268,931 posts)
3. Possible but what if said church folks formed one of the shell companies
Tue Jul 17, 2012, 03:10 PM
Jul 2012

that donated early and big and then disappeared. In other words, since he's so big in the church could he have been hiding money in 'charity'.

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
4. this isn't a very big deal to most people. Offshore and swiss accounts are much more likely
Tue Jul 17, 2012, 03:11 PM
Jul 2012

to cause voters to run the other way.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
5. I guess it could be
Tue Jul 17, 2012, 03:13 PM
Jul 2012

But most people aren't going to be upset with someone for donating huge sums of money to charity.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
10. Then there would be no reason for it to show up on his tax returns
Tue Jul 17, 2012, 03:19 PM
Jul 2012

Are you seriously saying that donations to the Mormon church don't count as contributions to charity?

I'd like to see some proof of that.

Marcia Brady

(108 posts)
11. What do you mean?
Tue Jul 17, 2012, 03:21 PM
Jul 2012

Not sure what you're saying. Is LDS treated differently (for tax purposes) than, say, a Presbyterian church, or a Lutheran church?

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
17. good point. do you get a tax cut for donatng to any church?
Tue Jul 17, 2012, 06:26 PM
Jul 2012

say, RC...

I would think not....
but who knows.
someone has to pay for all those robes and rings.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
21. Yes, you do
Tue Jul 17, 2012, 06:55 PM
Jul 2012

So long as the church is a tax exempt entity, you can deduct all donations. The money I give to church every week comes off my taxes as a charitable deduction.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
23. maybe Rmoney is afraid of the Mormon church finding out
Tue Jul 17, 2012, 07:13 PM
Jul 2012

that he has not been donating the required 10%.

ha.

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
6. That is a possibility but it can't be what the Obama team is driving toward
Tue Jul 17, 2012, 03:14 PM
Jul 2012

It comes across as attacking someone else's religion.

If it turns out that Romney pays no taxes in the U.S. that will be plenty of fodder. Throwing the Mormon thing in is distracting and is un-needed.

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
8. I'm elbows-deep in the oppo file
Tue Jul 17, 2012, 03:16 PM
Jul 2012

Maybe what he's hiding is the fact that he donated to lot of liberal causes, like the $150 check to planned parenthood.

 

banned from Kos

(4,017 posts)
9. In 2010 (Romney's only released tax return) he paid the LDS $1.5 million
Tue Jul 17, 2012, 03:17 PM
Jul 2012

about the same he paid in taxes.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
12. I think he's hiding the simple fact that he's paid amost NO taxes.
Tue Jul 17, 2012, 03:24 PM
Jul 2012

Kind of hard to go into a tax policy debate arguing for lower taxes on billionaires and more taxes for working people when you already have cash coming out of your ears and haven't paid taxes in years. Imagine trying to use that line about "half the country" paying no taxes after such a revelation.

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
14. Nope, I never gave to United Way, Wasted too much money on parties.
Tue Jul 17, 2012, 03:47 PM
Jul 2012

It is just a third party between charities that wastes money on high salaries. I like to give money to charities that I have checked out for financial responsibility.

Worked for a company where the president wanted 100% participation, the pressure was pretty bad, I was kept in a room and "reasoned with" for several hours. After they collected their money, they gave a big party to the volunteers with alcohol and food.

I collect money for a charity and I give a gift to my helpers out of my own pocket every year, as do the other organizers. Very little money is spent on fund raising.

lady lib

(2,933 posts)
16. You're right, it is 10%.
Tue Jul 17, 2012, 06:21 PM
Jul 2012

I think there's still some debate among Mormons as to whether that's 10% of the gross or net, with the purists donating 10% of their gross annual income. One of his concerns might be that his fellow Mormons might realize that not only was he avoiding paying US taxes, but perhaps he was tithing too little. Just a guess...

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
18. My guess is he probably paid little or no taxes one of those years
Tue Jul 17, 2012, 06:31 PM
Jul 2012

Loopholed his way down to zero. Mark it zero, Dude. It's a league game.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
19. The company my wife works for has a heavy Mormon influence.
Tue Jul 17, 2012, 06:40 PM
Jul 2012

The Mormon men are a protected class. She manages technology projects and for the past 5 years, when a project is in trouble, they give it to her to fix. Once its running smoothly, they give it to a Mormon guy, and they give her some other failing project.

The Mormon guys all all one or two levels above her. She's found that most of them do nothing. They rely on their staff to do everything. And as a result, they never know what things are failing.

My wife figures they'll make her fix the big issues, until she quits, and then hire a new sucker to do the work that the Mormon guys won't do.




madinmaryland

(64,931 posts)
20. Good for her! I always hated working for companies and having to deal with the nasty strong armed
Tue Jul 17, 2012, 06:50 PM
Jul 2012

tactics of United Way and the Corporation. Getting called in to your bosses office because you have not donated to United Way. Fuck them. I'll choose who I want to donate to, and it will not be the corporate owned UW.

 

Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
22. This theory was mentioned on the news shows as a possibility - Romney's father donated 19% to the
Tue Jul 17, 2012, 06:57 PM
Jul 2012

church.

Analysts said Romney might fear being judged for donating more to church than paid in taxes.

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