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Former Alabama Supreme Court Chief Justice Roy Moore's victory in Tuesday's GOP runoff all but solidifies the inevitable: He's the next U.S. Senator from Alabama.
That's the conventional thinking in Alabama, where a Democrat hasn't won a statewide election since 2008, and hasn't won a U.S. Senate race since 1992.
But typical political beliefs, observers note, could be out the window for the next 2-1/2 months as the national attention shifts toward a Dec. 12 general election pitting two opponents with striking differences in personality and biography.
"I expect a real donnybrook in the general election," said Quin Hillyer, a conservative writer based in Mobile. "It could get ugly, and it could get exciting."
http://www.al.com/news/mobile/index.ssf/2017/09/next_up_moore_v_jones_in_alaba.html
HAB911
(8,867 posts)janterry
(4,429 posts)Yuck.
The very idea that anyone is still listening to this racist blowhard is beyond me.................
I've love to see him defeated (but it's Alabama...)
nycbos
(6,034 posts)George Wallace lost his first face for Governor. His opponent was endorsed by the KKK.
He said afterwords "I will never be out n***red again." I bet it many ways the state is still like that.
kentuck
(111,052 posts)Even in Alabama. If we give up without trying, we are losers before we even begin.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Last edited Thu Dec 13, 2018, 05:51 PM - Edit history (1)
What a great victory for Jones!
Pacifist Patriot
(24,653 posts)But I would really like to see the Democratic party throw everything at Moore. I'd especially like to see them use some of the ideas Clinton suggests towards the end of her book.
We very well may not win, but we could certainly make significant gains like we did in the Georgia 6th. No, a loss still isn't a seat. But it's a step in the right direction and will keep the Republicans on the defensive.
Please, please don't write this one off as not worth the trouble. I see every reason to go after Moore in a big way.
JNelson6563
(28,151 posts)He needs all the support he can get down there!
HAB911
(8,867 posts)mountain grammy
(26,598 posts)and fuck Roy Moore, the stinking racist homophobe. Why believe in a satan when men like this are walking around.
crazycatlady
(4,492 posts)Give to either Doug Jones or the Alabama Democratic Party (who needs the $$ to build infrastructure in order to win).
mountain grammy
(26,598 posts)But, like Georgia, I don't think it'll do any good.
crazycatlady
(4,492 posts)That they couldn't afford to keep the lights on at HQ. Small donations help them build a viable party that can at least pay utility bills.
GaryCnf
(1,399 posts)in Alabama.
I do know that he cannot beat Roy Moore unless black voters turn out un huge numbers and I do know that we will not get a huge turnout from black voters if we continue to take them for granted and instead focus on "moderate" white voters in the suburbs. While Doug Jones is obviously an old white guy, he is an old white guy whose background gives him the credibility to call down the fire on the heads of the racists who handed Moore the GOP nomination. He needs to do that.
What I also know is that, regardless of whether whites in Alabama believe Roy Moore is the messenger of the almighty and the Democratic Washington elite are Yankee reconstruction-ists, Roy Moore is an albatross who needs to be hung around the neck of every other Republican in this country. That means involvement and support at the national level.
Fight in Alabama . . . win everywhere.
mountain grammy
(26,598 posts)I'll chip in for his campaign.
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)I dunno about exciting; I guess that would be how you define exciting.
davsand
(13,421 posts)We will not pick up a seat in Alabama, IMO. That's kinda like expecting ice cream to stay solid sitting in your car in summer. The main reason to fight this particular race is to keep inflicting his racist hateful image on the RNC. It's going to put all of them--up and down the ticket--on a razor's edge when somebody asks a Republican candidate in public do they support (insert rabid racist Republican wingnut name here)--because you just know Moore's win is going to encourage similar wingnuts to run. This was just the start.
What's possible, IMO, is that with those other primaries, you will see moderate Republicans spending a lot of money to survive a primary. Then, if a few of the wingnuts win--maybe in purple areas--Dems do stand a chance to pick up seats. Arizona, maybe? Nevada?
There's an old story about LBJ putting out the rumor that his opponent was copulating with a farm animal (the actual variety of animal leans toward pig, but I've also heard it as goat a time or two.) LBJ's campaign guy said, "Lyndon, you can't say that. You know that's not true." LBJ responded with something along the lines of, "Yeah, but I want to make him deny it." Moore's campaign is going to allow the Dems to force every Republican candidate to either repudiate Moore by denying they are a racist, or else be on the record supporting a racist piece of shit.