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RYAN: purpose of this is middle class tax cut
DICKERSON: guarantee?
RYAN: I don't know every single person's little, small problem or issue
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(17,413 posts)procon
(15,805 posts)like this? It happens too often to merely be coincidental. Do the policies that the GOP espouses attract people of a certain mindset who are hardwired to lack compassion, be unfair and insensitive to basic humanitarian needs?
Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.
procon
(15,805 posts)Truncating quotes helps, too.
"The policies GOP espouses attract people" is how your post could be quoted. I'm sure you didn't mean it that way. It's why it's not considered ethical to quote in a way that changes the meaning.
Personally, I think that's a gotcha question. If you say "yes," if one person out of 10s of millions fails to get a tax cut--perhaps on paper, perhaps in effective tax rate, perhaps in absolute dollar amount paid--then you're a liar. I'm middle class. Part of the reason that I pay not so much in taxes is that my income covers my health insurance and my son's, pre tax, and because I'm having a fair chunk taken out for retirement, also pre-tax. If my son moves to my wife's insurance next year, my taxes will go up unless the rate is dropped precipitously.
Now, I sound petty, assuming that Dickerson really is expecting the middle-class tax cut to be a success only if it applies to each and every person, instead of even just, say, 99.999%. But I'm not: Under Dickerson's requirement, the tax cut wouldn't apply to me; but I file jointly, not individually, so it doesn't matter in the least whether I pay for my kid's insurance or my wife does. If we changed things tomorrow, my tax rate would go up, hers would go down, but it would balance out perfectly next April. So this is just not a reasonable expectation, right? The transcript continues:
JOHN DICKERSON: So is that a guarantee?
PAUL RYAN: Well, I don't know every single person's little, small problem or issue--
JOHN DICKERSON: But it'll be minimal if nobody gets-- if I'm a middle class ...
So that's exactly what he's doing. He finally backs off a little and changes tack after a few utterances:
PAUL RYAN: Right.
JOHN DICKERSON: --will you work to squeeze that number to as low as possible?
PAUL RYAN: That's exactly right. That's exactly right. So the objective is to lower taxes for middle class taxpayers.
And Dickerson heads off in a slightly, but only slightly, different direction, but the topic's different and so this is a reasonable place to stop excerpting.
When the dust settled last week, the one surely true statement that could be made was nobody knows what the plan would produce; it's unlikely it would result in anything but a tax savings for the top 10%. All the details, all the estimates and numbers, crucially rely on the estimators' filling in and supplying numbers of their own, so those numbers reflect assumptions. They're all "what ifs" and hypotheticals, often masquerading as fact. Then again, Halloween is coming up soon.
procon
(15,805 posts)With nothing else being even remotely related to my post, have a better day! Oh, BTW, if I ever have an urgent need to rearrange my words to mean something completely different than I intended, I'll just call Rocket J. Squirrel.
LakeArenal
(28,802 posts)Everyone get behind Randy Bryce. We need to replace Ryan.
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(34,661 posts)are reading the writing on the wall telling them,they better take care of their Rich Benefactors because your day has come and gone
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