NY couple asks black passerby to agree Confederate flags not racist

[Eko]

NY couple asks black passerby to agree Confederate flag’s ‘not racist’ — and are gobsmacked when he won’t
The reporter said his neighbors then tried to prove their point by asking a 13-year-old black boy playing nearby to validate their feelings.

“Are you opposed to the flag at all?” Barber asked the teen. “Do you have a problem with the flag, as a black person?”

The teen’s answer genuinely seemed to surprise the couple, according to the reporter.

“Yeah, it is offensive to me,” the teen said. “This is the flag of people who want to bring slavery back.”

The astonished couple asked the teen to meet with them sometime so they could explain what the flag meant to them, but he declined.
https://www.rawstory.com/2017/10/ny-couple-asks-black-passerby-to-agree-confederate-flags-not-racist-and-are-gobsmacked-when-he-wont/

Ha Too funny.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

1. Who the fuck cares what it means to them?! It objectively is the battle flag

of traitors who fought a bloody battle against Americans in order to preserve the privilege of legally enslaving other human beings.

Find another fucking flag to represent any decent feelings you have.

[JustAnotherGen]

17. I'll see your traitors

And raise it right up to a FOREIGN Country that shot at American Soldiers!

[rockfordfile]

2. Why would of all places a person from NY have a traitor's flag?

Nobody anywhere in our country in this day and time should support anything like that.

[pstokely]

8. how did they handle the winters?

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http://www.cs.brandeis.edu/~hornby/amuse/story_snow.txt
A SOUTHERNER MOVES UP NORTH


Dec 8 5:00 pm - it's starting to snow. The first of the season and
the first one we've seen in years. The wife and I took our hot
buttered rums and sat by the picture window watching the soft flakes
drift down, clinging to the trees and covering the ground. It was
beautiful!

Dec 9 We awoke to a lovely blanket of crystal white snow covering
the
landscape. What a fantastic site. Every tree and shrub covered with a
beautiful white mantle. I shoveled snow for the first time in years
and loved it. I shoveled both our drive and sidewalk. Later, a city
snowplow came along and accidentally covered our drive with compacted
snow from the street. The driver smiled and waved. I waved back and
shoveled our drive again.

Dec 10 It snowed an additional 6 inches last night and the
temperature
has dropped to about 11 degrees. Several limbs from the trees and
shrubs snapped due to the weight of the snow. I shoveled again.
Shortly after, the snowplow came by and did his trick again. Much of
the snow is now brownish-gray.

Dec 11 It warmed up enough during the day to create some slush which
soon became ice when the temperature dropped again. Bought snow tires
for both cars. Fell on my ass in the driveway. $145
to a chiropractor but nothing broken. More snow and ice expected.

Dec 12 Still cold. Sold the wife's car and bought a 4X4 in order to
get
her to work. Slid into a guardrail anyway and did considerable amount
of damage to the right rear quarter pane. Had another 8 inches of that
white shit last night. Both vehicles covered with salt and crud. More
shoveling in store for me today. That goddam snowplow came by twice
today.

Dec 13 2 degrees outside. More fuckin' snow. Not a tree or shrub on
my
property that hasn't been damaged. Power was off most of the night.
Tried to keep from freezing to death with a kerosene heater which
tipped over and nearly burned the house down. I managed to put the
flames out but suffered 2'nd degree burns on my hands and lost most of
my eyelashes and eyebrows. Car slid on ice on the way to the emergency
room and was totalled!!

Dec 14 Goddam mother-fuckin' white shit keeps on coming down. Have to
put
on all the clothes we own just to get to the fucking mailbox. If
I ever catch the son-of-a-bitch that drives the snowplow, I'll chew
open his chest and rip his heart out. I think he hides around the
corner and waits for me to finish shoveling and then comes down the
street about 60 MPH and buries our drive again. Power still off.
Toilet froze and part of the roof has started to cave in.

Dec 15 6 goddam more fuckin' inches of fuckin' snow and fuckin' sleet
and
fuckin' ice and god knows what other kind of white fuckin's shit fell
last night. I wounded the fuckin' snowplow asshole with an ice axe but
he got away. Wife left me. The car won't start. I think I'm going
snow-blind. I can't move my toes. More fucking snow expected tonight.
I'm moving the fuck back to Texas!!!

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

11. Love it!

I spent my childhood in northern NYS (Utica and north) and grew up with minus 20 degrees and many, many inches of snow being common.

I moved away, to Tucson, Arizona, in 1962. Big change. Anyway, in 1968 I moved back to the east coast and was then hired by Mohawk Airlines (and if you remember them you are showing your age) in January of 1969, and attended two weeks of training in Utica, New York that month. The other women in my class (it seems weird to me to say women, as back then we were girls) were: one from Binghamton NY, one from Syracuse, one from Rochester, and two from Long Island. The two from LI don't count because they don't really get winter there. But the others, who were from Binghamton, Syracuse, and Rochester were totally astonished at the amount of snow they were seeing. I could assure them that this was a perfectly average winter for Utica.

In my childhood we referred to on particular road (Glass Factory Road for those of you who might have heard of it) north from Utica as the Grand Canyon of the North, because in the winter the snow plows threw up side mountains of snow that were easily ten feet high.

We lived on Glass Factory Road, and a couple of times each winter my parents would persuade the snow plow driver to plow out our driveway, because otherwise just trying to shovel it out was impossible.

I don't know if it's still true, but I remember knowing back then that Upstate New York, (and I'm referring to the real Upstate, north of the Mohawk River) got more snow than anywhere east of the Rockies. I'm inclined to believe that, because I've lived in a bunch of other places over the years, including Minneapolis (more cold than snow) and along the Front Range of the Rocky Mountains (Golden and Boulder CO), and when we lived in Boulder, I didn't think we got enough snow to be bothered to buy my sons a sled. My standards for snow are truly high.

[djg21]

10. Dumbfuckistan

Upstate NY is largely rural, relatively poor and very red. One of the larger employers is the State prison system. A big issue is guns, and there are anti-SAFE Act (NY assault weapon and handgun legislation) everywhere.

There are a number of Confederate flags flying by me — a few within a couple of miles — and I’m not too far north of Albany. But there is karma. A mosque and Islamic learning center just opened across the street from one home in my town with a Confederate flag flying out front.

I’d love to post pictures and addresses of these houses somewhere. I presume that the dumbfucks flying these flags aren’t celebrating their Southern heritage.

[JustAnotherGen]

18. He's from Georgia

tenderfoot posted an article from NPR below.

I think that should make oberliner happy (disappointed the article was posted from raw story?) but I doubt he/shie will comment on the actual content.

[oberliner]

3. In what universe does this constitute a news story?

Or is it just click bait for Raw Story?

[Eko]

5. You dont like it, dont click.

It was done by NPR and its in general discussion. I suppose I could post things like rumors of someone on Trumps transition team having affairs.

[oberliner]

9. I just don't like when Raw Story steals the work of others

They basically just re-arranged the paragraphs in the NPR article and paraphrased some things slightly.

I don't see how Travis Gettys can put his name on an article that is basically copied from an article written by Arun Venugopal.

[greatauntoftriplets]

19. That's pretty much what RawStory does.

It "repackages" articles from other sources. At times, it is a way to read something that's behind a paywall.

[George II]

24. Raw Story ALWAYS provides an obvious link to the original story, they don't "steal" work of others.

Ever hear of Reader's Digest?

https://www.rd.com/

[oberliner]

30. A person at Raw Story put their name as the byline

What exactly are they taking credit for?

[George II]

34. Read the article, please.

"Ricky Barber, 30, and his fiancée displayed the flag outside their Plattsburgh home earlier this year, and their neighbor — an NPR reporter — asked them to explain why they displayed the Civil War flag so far north in Union country."

That was the second sentence in the article, clearly attributing the article to the NPR reporter.

If you have an issue with that I suggest you take it up with Raw Story. Funny thing, articles from Raw Story have been properly posted here for years and I don't recall anyone complaining about them before.

[Eliot Rosewater]

26. Wait, you first said that this isnt important enough to be a news story, now you say

your object because Raw Story is basically reprinting it, which is it?

[oberliner]

29. No I didn't

I asked in what universe was it a news story and wrote that Raw Story just re-arranged paragraphs in a pre-existing NPR piece for click bait purposes.

No comment was made by me about the importance of the topic.

[oberliner]

33. Exactly

No mention of importance - just asking in what universe a re-arranged article by Raw Story with a click bait headline constitutes news.

[malaise]

6. Huh? n/t

[oberliner]

7. Seems like they took NPR's article

Gave it a click-bait headline - and stole a bunch of paragraphs from somebody else's reporting.

[George II]

20. I didn't see that anyone said it constituted a new story, that's why it's in...

...."General Discussion", otherwise it would be in "Latest Breaking News".

[JustAnotherGen]

22. Agree

GD has moderators who would have managed the OP if it was not appropriate for this board.

[tenderfoot]

25. Notice he couldn't give a rat's about the content of the story.

Which says a lot...

[Eliot Rosewater]

27. Always notice that, myself.

[Philistein]

4. It's an enemy flag.

Seems unpatriotic to fly it.

[SweetieD]

12. I don't really find it funny. It was an act of racist aggression to a child meant to intimidate.

Nothing well meaning or innocent about this.

[Eko]

13. Yup,

nothing funny about this at all.

[tenderfoot]

14. Here's the original article from npr

The Confederate Flag Owners of New York

http://www.wnyc.org/story/meet-confederate-flag-owners-new-york/

[JustAnotherGen]

16. You know . . .

I lived in the Rochester NY area for 30 years prior to moving to New Jersey and this . . .

Zach Hirsch, a reporter with North Country Public Radio, didn't have to go far to find a Confederate flag owner: his neighbor in Plattsburgh displayed one for a period earlier this year.

The neighbor, Ricky Barber, 30, moved to New York from Georgia, and said the flag is a sign of his Southern pride, as well as a form of defiance.

"You'll hear all these people that gathered down South that are blacks. What about their Black Lives Matter flags?" asked Barber.

"That's pushing back on the white people. Us white people, we retaliate by 'Hey, we got a Confederate flag and whatnot.'"

Then why doesn't he take his ass back to fucking Georgia if he isn't going to assimilate?


With his 'whatnot' take his thingamajiggy and shove it up his whatchamacallit.

[Eliot Rosewater]

31. I feel for the flag owner, I do. He sincerely needs that black person or any black person to

"understand" what it means to him.

What is wrong with that?



Sure, what it means to him is the black person he is talking to should be his property, but come on, is that such a big deal really?

Slaves? Surely nobody really objects to that in this day and age, right?

I mean our president, who many saw as harmless so to speak, is a racist who wants to own black people, so how can this be an issue at all, right?

[JustAnotherGen]

35. That's what I don't get about 45/140 supporters

In general iDGAF about them, what they think, what they say - it's all nonsense.

[True_Blue]

15. What did they think he would say?

That flag doesn't exactly represent freedom & liberty for POC. It represents slavery, racism, treason and defeat. Only a racist could like that flag.

[ProfessorGAC]

21. If It Means Something Other Than What He Said, To Them. . .

. . .then they're wrong. Simple

[Blue_Tires]

23. what the fucking hell???

[bigbrother05]

28. That's an extremely polite young man

In his place I'd likely have said "It means you're a f'ing racist cracker who best get out of my face!", but as a mid-60's white guy, they wouldn't get much satisfaction out of trying to rub it in my face.

[OldHippieChick]

36. Those who flew the stars and bars killed those

who flew the Star Spangled Banner. What else do we need to know?