Fri Oct 13, 2017, 09:03 PM

Bernie speaking on 1st day at Women's conference is a horrible idea & it's easy to show why...

- A non hearing impaired person who hasn't been a particular advocate for the hearing impaired signed to speak on the first day of a conference for the deaf when it is the first conference for the deaf have had in 40 years.

- A non Latino/Hispanic person who hasn't been a particular advocate for the Latino/Hispanic community signed to speak on the first day of a conference for Latinos/Hispanic people when it is the first conference for Latinos in 40 years.

- A white man who hasn't done much for African American rights signed to speak on the the first day of a conference for African Americans when it is the first conference for African Americans in 40 years.

We can keep going. All of the above would be shockingly bad choices. It's all pretty obvious. Women's rights has not been one of Bernie's signature issues. He's probably on the right side of those rights, but that's not his bailiwick.

The decision to have Bernie speak was not about women. That's the problem. This conference is about women.

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Bernie speaking on 1st day at Women's conference is a horrible idea & it's easy to show why... (Original post)	stevenleser	Oct 2017	OP
umm the conference WANTED him to speak and its their conference after all nt	msongs	Oct 2017	#1
That's your answer? It's a conference about women. The organizers don't own that. nt	stevenleser	Oct 2017	#2
Who has the right...	tonedevil	Oct 2017	#5
When it is about a diversity group? The members of that diversity group. nt	stevenleser	Oct 2017	#16
Did the organizers...	tonedevil	Oct 2017	#21
This isn't that complicated. It's all in the OP. nt	stevenleser	Oct 2017	#23
Not really.	Ken Burch	Oct 2017	#251
No they didn't have to ask permission	radical noodle	Oct 2017	#105
The organizers of the Women's March weren't mostly WOC. Why do you say "apparently" this group is?	pnwmom	Oct 2017	#136
The tweet...	tonedevil	Oct 2017	#236
There were 4 organizers, including two white women, one Latina, and an African American. n/t	pnwmom	Oct 2017	#239
Thank you...	tonedevil	Oct 2017	#243
I haven't seen anything that explains who issued the invite or how. n/t	pnwmom	Oct 2017	#246
Have to agree with you there... they must've had good reasons for inviting Bernie to speak.	InAbLuEsTaTe	Oct 2017	#33
They really didn't. Everything you see that they have come out with on this says the opposite.	stevenleser	Oct 2017	#37
I can understand there being some people who were not in favor of hearing from Bernie...	InAbLuEsTaTe	Oct 2017	#42
Meanwhile, this decision has brought a lot more attention to their event.	thesquanderer	Oct 2017	#108
Or not. A lot of women seem to be asking for their $300 back. Seems they think their issues	stevenleser	Oct 2017	#109
Could you have lived with them inviting Nina Turner?	Ken Burch	Oct 2017	#242
Sure. Those would have been reasonable choices.	stevenleser	Oct 2017	#268
Post removed	Post removed	Oct 2017	#244
There's nothing in that photo that "says the opposite".	Ken Burch	Oct 2017	#252
Well the people they charged $300 per ticket that they defrauded by	Ninsianna	Oct 2017	#91
does the 300 dollars include a Hotel , travel and whatever costs of getting there ?	JI7	Oct 2017	#116
No, I was going for the day...you can buy day tickets. But I won't go now. To have Sen. Sanders	Demsrule86	Oct 2017	#159
You might want to check out the comments of some of those other "honored" speakers	Ninsianna	Oct 2017	#273
Wow..not going. I am incensed at how this was done...they deliberately waited until you couldn't get	Demsrule86	Oct 2017	#275
Nasty right?	Ninsianna	Oct 2017	#280
Since I was going anyway...I will keep my eyes peeled.	Demsrule86	Oct 2017	#281
Nope.	Ninsianna	Oct 2017	#272
It's NOT a conference about women, that would be simplistic and limited	Not Ruth	Oct 2017	#6
u ruined his mansplainin	questionseverything	Oct 2017	#11
Nope, Bernie will be the one mansplaining, and the conference organizers enabled it. nt	stevenleser	Oct 2017	#17
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Oct 2017	#149
It actually is that simple.	stevenleser	Oct 2017	#18
That is a fine example...	tonedevil	Oct 2017	#25
They actually do share my opinion and knew the choice was a controversial one	stevenleser	Oct 2017	#35
I don't think you understand...	tonedevil	Oct 2017	#38
No, I don't think YOU understand. They knew these opinions existed among women when they made the	stevenleser	Oct 2017	#40
Apparently...	tonedevil	Oct 2017	#55
It was a very bad decision. And I have to wonder if it is about selling tickets...at $300.00 a pop	Demsrule86	Oct 2017	#163
You say this as if there is a group that would get collective 100% support	mythology	Oct 2017	#177
This flailing really does not become any of you trying to support this decision.	stevenleser	Oct 2017	#226
I did it intentionally and no it wasn't "flailing" as you inaccurately put it.	mythology	Oct 2017	#270
Thank you, Not Ruth	True Dough	Oct 2017	#56
I had intended to go up for the day...but I let my hotel go because I want nothing to do with this.	Demsrule86	Oct 2017	#161
"that the rise of the woman IS the rise of the nation." How do you get that it "Is NOT a conference	emulatorloo	Oct 2017	#213
Yes it is. The percentage of female speakers addressing the conference highlights female leadership	Tom Rinaldo	Oct 2017	#238
Listen to the actual organizers	Hassin Bin Sober	Oct 2017	#7
truly embarrassing to see them try to insulate themselves from criticism that way.	bettyellen	Oct 2017	#96
And embarrassing to see some DUers who have never been interested in any diversity issues	stevenleser	Oct 2017	#224
There are people who twist things for political "gain" and I think they lose in the end....	bettyellen	Oct 2017	#267
Thanks	elleng	Oct 2017	#128
That's my answer, too. nt	babylonsister	Oct 2017	#19
And it is still a bad answer. nt	stevenleser	Oct 2017	#20
When does this happen? I am now curious to	babylonsister	Oct 2017	#28
It's a good opportunity for him to lay out how women's' issues fit into his worldview	emulatorloo	Oct 2017	#209
Well you certainly don't own it either, stevenleser.	appal_jack	Oct 2017	#122
And I am sure you are going to tell us all how reciting that obvious factoid	stevenleser	Oct 2017	#125
And you do?	Ken Burch	Oct 2017	#241
Not "the conference." The majority of the handful of organizers of the conference. n/t	pnwmom	Oct 2017	#53
And the women who made the conference possible resoundingly shouted their disagreement	Ninsianna	Oct 2017	#89
No. Sorry.	sheshe2	Oct 2017	#102
Thank you.	Paka	Oct 2017	#111
Sheshe2 wrote pretty much the same thing. It is under Latest Threads	BigmanPigman	Oct 2017	#3
This message was self-deleted by its author	GaryCnf	Oct 2017	#9
Is he the headline speaker? If so, IMO, he probably needs to bow out. He's too much...	brush	Oct 2017	#84
What?	KPN	Oct 2017	#4
You mean people who actually get off their ass and organize a convention should have some say?	Hassin Bin Sober	Oct 2017	#10
I need a link to share, but yes! And	babylonsister	Oct 2017	#24
Here	SixString	Oct 2017	#26
They got to decide who they wanted	delisen	Oct 2017	#135
They can organize it but I don't have to go...and no more donations from me either.	Demsrule86	Oct 2017	#164
+1!	KPN	Oct 2017	#192
Yea, in between the	GaryCnf	Oct 2017	#12
Calling for silencing? Rather hyperbolic.	KPN	Oct 2017	#15
I assume by "over-reaction"	GaryCnf	Oct 2017	#27
Yes, your assumption is correct ...	KPN	Oct 2017	#183
NP	GaryCnf	Oct 2017	#184
Why those hysterical females...they overreacted...I am sure some manspainin	Demsrule86	Oct 2017	#259
You need to go back	GaryCnf	Oct 2017	#261
I attack no one...but I feel they absolutely blew it.	Demsrule86	Oct 2017	#276
And here is Tamika Mallory in her own words acknowledging her choice was controversial	stevenleser	Oct 2017	#36
Changing the goalposts?	GaryCnf	Oct 2017	#46
No changing, exactly in line with my OP. Not even a good try. nt	stevenleser	Oct 2017	#48
You have not...	tonedevil	Oct 2017	#57
My OP makes clear why its a horrible idea. nt	stevenleser	Oct 2017	#60
I just don't agree. /nt	tonedevil	Oct 2017	#61
Are you a member of a diversity group? nt	stevenleser	Oct 2017	#64
As a 61 year old White Man...	tonedevil	Oct 2017	#74
That's why you don't understand. Ask a member of a diversity group about the situations	stevenleser	Oct 2017	#78
I understand...	tonedevil	Oct 2017	#90
Too bad this confernece was organized by straight white men	Tom Rinaldo	Oct 2017	#176
I'm AA and definitely not a Bernie fan. But I understand why Tamika chose Bernie as one of the	underthematrix	Oct 2017	#262
No it doesn't. It states a bunch of ridiculous	KPN	Oct 2017	#188
Its a straightforward and obvious set of facts that you can't refute.	stevenleser	Oct 2017	#225
Say what you will.	KPN	Oct 2017	#229
It was an idiot idea and there are many reasons why.	leftofcool	Oct 2017	#65
And she supported it regardless because she thought it was a good thing to do.	KPN	Oct 2017	#185
Wait, wait , wait.	sheshe2	Oct 2017	#112
that's crazy talk	Voltaire2	Oct 2017	#180
If the conference organizers invited him, and if the conference organizers are women,	guillaumeb	Oct 2017	#8
Seems pretty obvious... Bernie may not have been my first choice	InAbLuEsTaTe	Oct 2017	#34
Agreed. eom	guillaumeb	Oct 2017	#198
Yes, thanks,	elleng	Oct 2017	#130
Purity at all costs?	guillaumeb	Oct 2017	#199
A 'big' reason, imo.	elleng	Oct 2017	#204
He/she who thinks the Democratic party	treestar	Oct 2017	#190
Organizers are POC who admire him. Is their perspective shit?	Arazi	Oct 2017	#13
Not even a nice try. Laughable actually. nt	stevenleser	Oct 2017	#14
Still no good responses, because there aren't any. He's not a women's advocate at all.	stevenleser	Oct 2017	#22
I was hoping for an "I don't see gender" one.	betsuni	Oct 2017	#29
I was just going to say, the night is young.	stevenleser	Oct 2017	#86
Post removed	Post removed	Oct 2017	#30
Thank YOU!	smirkymonkey	Oct 2017	#31
K&R	stonecutter357	Oct 2017	#32
Actually the women who selected him	GaryCnf	Oct 2017	#39
Oh I listened. Here they are	stevenleser	Oct 2017	#49
And it's wide right	GaryCnf	Oct 2017	#51
In other words, you really don't care what the thoughts are of the women who organized the	stevenleser	Oct 2017	#52
Have some dignity sir	GaryCnf	Oct 2017	#71
Read your response out loud in front of a mirror. nt	stevenleser	Oct 2017	#83
Exactly, right again. This is just a dishonest attempt to	R B Garr	Oct 2017	#195
Which is disingenuous	treestar	Oct 2017	#194
Bernie has disparaged people he claims practice identity politics,	pnwmom	Oct 2017	#62
Well at least you're honest.	GaryCnf	Oct 2017	#76
Bernie has a one-size-fits-all-99% solution for political equality,	pnwmom	Oct 2017	#77
Again, my compliments	GaryCnf	Oct 2017	#82
Dunno where you get "hatred" from a recitation of facts and direct quotes	emulatorloo	Oct 2017	#216
I agree that having a man open the conference was a clunky decision.	Demit	Oct 2017	#41
Thank you Steven	mcar	Oct 2017	#43
You're just pissed because it's Bernie	phleshdef	Oct 2017	#44
As usual.	elleng	Oct 2017	#129
Yes, I am pisssed that Sen. Sanders was chosen given his comments on identity politics and	Demsrule86	Oct 2017	#167
so you are basically saying Bernie has not done much on issues important to women	Takket	Oct 2017	#45
It's exactly as I said in the OP and I will elaborate	stevenleser	Oct 2017	#47
Just because it's controversial...	tonedevil	Oct 2017	#59
Question	GaryCnf	Oct 2017	#66
I'll answer, if...	stevenleser	Oct 2017	#75
a well thought out reply.........	Takket	Oct 2017	#68
Thanks For Fighting A Good Fight	Me.	Oct 2017	#69
Likely there are men who have done more	treestar	Oct 2017	#191
k&r	Starry Messenger	Oct 2017	#50
So far he's the only man to be invited who has accepted. That is odd.	George II	Oct 2017	#54
Not true	oberliner	Oct 2017	#58
From their own website, here are the 44 confirmed speakers:	George II	Oct 2017	#70
There is one other male speaker and he is not speaking on day 1. nt	stevenleser	Oct 2017	#63
I stand corrected, there are 44 confirmed speakers on their website, 42 are women.	George II	Oct 2017	#72
This was absolutely a tone-deaf decision	NastyRiffraff	Oct 2017	#67
I Would Rather Hear Bernie Speak At ANY EVENT	SeattlePop	Oct 2017	#73
I just drop this here. Carry on...	Purveyor	Oct 2017	#79
That argument is beyond stale at this point. nt	stevenleser	Oct 2017	#80
As I said carry on. 2018 is going to be a challenge at this rate, indeed... nt	Purveyor	Oct 2017	#88
Do you believe a difference of opinion on an obscure website like DU will affect the 2018 election?	emulatorloo	Oct 2017	#201
That is correct and many, including myself sometimes think a forum such as this matters	Purveyor	Oct 2017	#230
It's pretty simple.	Smitty63nnn	Oct 2017	#81
Point 1 is Irrelevant and Point 2 has been previously debunked. nt	stevenleser	Oct 2017	#85
No, it was about time for someone to bring up that tired old argument.	pnwmom	Oct 2017	#87
He is not hosting the event.	sheshe2	Oct 2017	#119
"Doing it for nothing". It is illegal for a sitting congressperson to be paid to speak.	emulatorloo	Oct 2017	#215
I guess you told us!	Philistein	Oct 2017	#92
Put down your violin. The women organizing the conference knew their choice was controversial	stevenleser	Oct 2017	#93
So what...	tonedevil	Oct 2017	#95
That has nothing to do with what that person said to me. nt	stevenleser	Oct 2017	#98
You keep saying that...	tonedevil	Oct 2017	#100
Nope, that was the first time I said that in this subthread.	stevenleser	Oct 2017	#103
I'm not sure how you...	tonedevil	Oct 2017	#113
I'm giving up on this guy.	Philistein	Oct 2017	#106
My violin? MY violin?	Philistein	Oct 2017	#99
Sure you did, the first sad tune you reached for was	stevenleser	Oct 2017	#101
Sigh. We have a buffoon in the White House who got there through treason.	PatrickforO	Oct 2017	#94
I can fight Trump and advocate for diversity issues at the same time.	stevenleser	Oct 2017	#97
It's late. Get some sleep. Pick up bashing again tomorrow with a fresh start.	FailureToCommunicate	Oct 2017	#104
I'm so pleased with your concern for my sleeping schedule but no and no.	stevenleser	Oct 2017	#107
I think Trump will win in 2020	Tavarious Jackson	Oct 2017	#110
Never pass up a chance to bash Bernie	hueymahl	Oct 2017	#114
There is zero Bernie bashing in the OP but thanks for playing.	stevenleser	Oct 2017	#115
mmm hmmm	Cuthbert Allgood	Oct 2017	#203
Lol, you have no idea what a joke that is. Sorry, no sale.	stevenleser	Oct 2017	#206
+1000, notice that there is zero concern about the	R B Garr	Oct 2017	#218
K&R	betsuni	Oct 2017	#117
Op is either Bernie Bashing or an expression that conference organizers need supervision. /nt	philly_bob	Oct 2017	#118
Don't worry about Bernie, he's an experienced establishment politician, he can take criticism.	betsuni	Oct 2017	#120
Right, Betsuni, I'm not at all worried about Bernie,	philly_bob	Oct 2017	#222
How disingenuous. You do sound mostly worried about Bernie.	R B Garr	Oct 2017	#279
IMHO - It is just more noise taking away from the disaster that is the Trump administration	OhioBlue	Oct 2017	#121
K&R! Thanks for making this a separate thread.	R B Garr	Oct 2017	#123
The Mansplaining Keynote	TeamPooka	Oct 2017	#124
Maxine Waters is the keynote.	Hassin Bin Sober	Oct 2017	#175
This seems to be part of the continued rationalization (or a sadistic doubling down)	coolsandy	Oct 2017	#126
Maxine Waters is the headlining speaker.	elleng	Oct 2017	#127
After what happened to Barbara Boxer, DWS and a certain prominent Democrat	ucrdem	Oct 2017	#131
Jesus man!	Glamrock	Oct 2017	#132
Ny name isnt Jesus, and this is a political discussion forum	stevenleser	Oct 2017	#208
Okay	Glamrock	Oct 2017	#220
Long past time to stop bashing Bernie	left-of-center2012	Oct 2017	#133
There is no Bernie bashing in the OP. Not even a nice try. nt	stevenleser	Oct 2017	#207
Seriously...the endless repetition of the phrase "hasn't been a particular backer"	Ken Burch	Oct 2017	#247
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Oct 2017	#134
He has a history of disparaging	pnwmom	Oct 2017	#137
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Oct 2017	#138
Many women were offended by this statement of Bernie's, and others like it.	pnwmom	Oct 2017	#139
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Oct 2017	#140
When did she ever play the damsel in distress?	pnwmom	Oct 2017	#141
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Oct 2017	#142
Trump WAS deliberately hovering over her and invading her personal space. That was a form	pnwmom	Oct 2017	#143
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First you insulted Hillary and now it's Gore. I get the idea. nt	pnwmom	Oct 2017	#145
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Yup.	Tarheel_Dem	Oct 2017	#160
Im almost sorry I missed the action	stevenleser	Oct 2017	#212
Tea Roll	JI7	Oct 2017	#147
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trump supporters are shitbags	JI7	Oct 2017	#150
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no, i don't have any shitbags in my family	JI7	Oct 2017	#153
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shitbag trump supporters don't deserve respect	JI7	Oct 2017	#155
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yeah, trump supporters are also fuckwads	JI7	Oct 2017	#157
Played the vagina card?	MyNameGoesHere	Oct 2017	#173
I don't. I am a woman. And while I respect all opinions. I won't go see a guy open a woman's	Demsrule86	Oct 2017	#165
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Oct 2017	#169
And yes some women and people of color had a problem with that. Not all by a long-shot, and I doubt	JCanete	Oct 2017	#171
This message was self-deleted by its author	emulatorloo	Oct 2017	#223
He ticks me off	treestar	Oct 2017	#193
That was almost 60 years ago...and his comments of late have been about emphasizing economic	Demsrule86	Oct 2017	#168
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Oct 2017	#170
Post removed	Post removed	Oct 2017	#152
We are sooooo fucked! SMDH. n/t	Whiskeytide	Oct 2017	#158
Oh come on, among numerous speakers allies to these groups have no business speaking? They	JCanete	Oct 2017	#162
We don't need this sort of attention.	Demsrule86	Oct 2017	#166
that is depressingly vague. Who doesn't. What's the attention you are getting that you object to?	JCanete	Oct 2017	#172
I don't care for Sen. Sanders. I am a Democrat, and he has said some things I wish he hadn't about	Demsrule86	Oct 2017	#179
So you are going to miss the conference...	Whiskeytide	Oct 2017	#181
I wanted to go to a Woman's conference...not a political rally and it seems to me that this is what	Demsrule86	Oct 2017	#260
I refuse to attend this conference because it is not a woman's conference which I signed up for...	Demsrule86	Oct 2017	#277
Using your logic it is not your place to complain.	Dustlawyer	Oct 2017	#174
+1111111111!	KPN	Oct 2017	#187
Nope, everyone can complain. Just not everyone should be a conference speaker. nt	stevenleser	Oct 2017	#210
As a man you know more than the organizers of the event?	Dustlawyer	Oct 2017	#245
Your response is a perfect example. See my #253 below nt	stevenleser	Oct 2017	#254
Has this group reserved speaking slots exclusively for women in the past?	Ken Burch	Oct 2017	#249
First conference in 40 years. But there is precedent for inviting men	stevenleser	Oct 2017	#257
I hadn't realized this was a fortieth anniversary event. That conference was heroic.	Ken Burch	Oct 2017	#265
Nope, I voiced my specific objections in two OPs.	stevenleser	Oct 2017	#266
Your specific objections can be summarized thusly:	Ken Burch	Oct 2017	#269
I lulz'd	KG	Oct 2017	#178
yep...	samnsara	Oct 2017	#182
Says a male.	KPN	Oct 2017	#186
Nope, the conference organizers, who are women, all acknowledged the choice was controversial	stevenleser	Oct 2017	#211
Okay I can play that game.	KPN	Oct 2017	#214
No game, your argument fails. nt	stevenleser	Oct 2017	#219
Nope	KPN	Oct 2017	#228
Bingo! Your answer pretty much decimated this entire reason for this thread. nt	Quixote1818	Oct 2017	#278
It's not your place to lecture a women's group as to who they should invite to speak.	Ken Burch	Oct 2017	#248
Again, see #253 below. nt	stevenleser	Oct 2017	#255
They have the word Women in their title	treestar	Oct 2017	#189
Maxine Waters is the keynote speaker.	Hassin Bin Sober	Oct 2017	#196
I was under the impression that	treestar	Oct 2017	#197
Bernie's still opening it. But after the backlash, they announced Maxine	pnwmom	Oct 2017	#200
So basically they had a PR disaster on their hands after all the pushback they received	emulatorloo	Oct 2017	#202
they said they announced the keynote as Waters weeks ago. Do you have an article or evidence you've	JCanete	Oct 2017	#231
Yeah, that's what they're saying now. But as of Sept 19th they still weren't confirming Maxine	pnwmom	Oct 2017	#232
but it's October 14th now, and the backlash started a couple days ago. when was she confirmed	JCanete	Oct 2017	#233
The backlash came when they announced Bernie, and Tamika appeared to confirm	pnwmom	Oct 2017	#234
appeared to confirm?	JCanete	Oct 2017	#235
Yes. She didn't correct the reporter who used the word "headliner" to refer to Bernie,	pnwmom	Oct 2017	#240
Bernie is the first speaker; Maxine is the keynote	Cuthbert Allgood	Oct 2017	#205
I need to find out who is the keynote as	treestar	Oct 2017	#217
In other news: man lectures women about stuff.	Voltaire2	Oct 2017	#221
Nope, the conference organizers, who are women, all acknowledged they knew the choice would be	stevenleser	Oct 2017	#227
No, they didn't validate your opionion.	Ken Burch	Oct 2017	#250
That is validating my opinion	stevenleser	Oct 2017	#253
They are simply validating the idea that not everyone would agree about their decision.	Ken Burch	Oct 2017	#256
And in doing so, validated the opinion and also took it out of the realm	stevenleser	Oct 2017	#258
He shouldn't speak at the conference. But this shouldn't be another excuse to go after him.	Ken Burch	Oct 2017	#237
Bill Clinton headlined their gala.	Sienna86	Oct 2017	#263
Looks like he headlined the Emily's List Award Gala	ucrdem	Oct 2017	#264
LOL	shanny	Oct 2017	#271
Also they waited to tell them about this decision so many felt that was wrong too.	Madam45for2923	Oct 2017	#274
I'm happy that the organizers made the right decision and moved Bernie to a break out session	stevenleser	Oct 2017	#282

Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Fri Oct 13, 2017, 09:05 PM

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Bernie speaking on 1st day at Women's conference is a horrible idea & it's easy to show why...

1. umm the conference WANTED him to speak and its their conference after all nt

2. That's your answer? It's a conference about women. The organizers don't own that. nt

5. Who has the right...

16. When it is about a diversity group? The members of that diversity group. nt

21. Did the organizers...

23. This isn't that complicated. It's all in the OP. nt

251. Not really.

105. No they didn't have to ask permission

136. The organizers of the Women's March weren't mostly WOC. Why do you say "apparently" this group is?

236. The tweet...

239. There were 4 organizers, including two white women, one Latina, and an African American. n/t

243. Thank you...

246. I haven't seen anything that explains who issued the invite or how. n/t

33. Have to agree with you there... they must've had good reasons for inviting Bernie to speak.

37. They really didn't. Everything you see that they have come out with on this says the opposite.

42. I can understand there being some people who were not in favor of hearing from Bernie...

108. Meanwhile, this decision has brought a lot more attention to their event.

109. Or not. A lot of women seem to be asking for their $300 back. Seems they think their issues

242. Could you have lived with them inviting Nina Turner?

268. Sure. Those would have been reasonable choices.

252. There's nothing in that photo that "says the opposite".

91. Well the people they charged $300 per ticket that they defrauded by

116. does the 300 dollars include a Hotel , travel and whatever costs of getting there ?

159. No, I was going for the day...you can buy day tickets. But I won't go now. To have Sen. Sanders

273. You might want to check out the comments of some of those other "honored" speakers

275. Wow..not going. I am incensed at how this was done...they deliberately waited until you couldn't get

280. Nasty right?

281. Since I was going anyway...I will keep my eyes peeled.

272. Nope.

6. It's NOT a conference about women, that would be simplistic and limited

11. u ruined his mansplainin

17. Nope, Bernie will be the one mansplaining, and the conference organizers enabled it. nt

18. It actually is that simple.

25. That is a fine example...

35. They actually do share my opinion and knew the choice was a controversial one

38. I don't think you understand...

40. No, I don't think YOU understand. They knew these opinions existed among women when they made the

55. Apparently...

163. It was a very bad decision. And I have to wonder if it is about selling tickets...at $300.00 a pop

177. You say this as if there is a group that would get collective 100% support

226. This flailing really does not become any of you trying to support this decision.

270. I did it intentionally and no it wasn't "flailing" as you inaccurately put it.

56. Thank you, Not Ruth

161. I had intended to go up for the day...but I let my hotel go because I want nothing to do with this.

213. "that the rise of the woman IS the rise of the nation." How do you get that it "Is NOT a conference

238. Yes it is. The percentage of female speakers addressing the conference highlights female leadership

7. Listen to the actual organizers

96. truly embarrassing to see them try to insulate themselves from criticism that way.

224. And embarrassing to see some DUers who have never been interested in any diversity issues

267. There are people who twist things for political "gain" and I think they lose in the end....

128. Thanks

19. That's my answer, too. nt

20. And it is still a bad answer. nt

28. When does this happen? I am now curious to

209. It's a good opportunity for him to lay out how women's' issues fit into his worldview

122. Well you certainly don't own it either, stevenleser.

125. And I am sure you are going to tell us all how reciting that obvious factoid

241. And you do?

53. Not "the conference." The majority of the handful of organizers of the conference. n/t

89. And the women who made the conference possible resoundingly shouted their disagreement

102. No. Sorry.

111. Thank you.

3. Sheshe2 wrote pretty much the same thing. It is under Latest Threads

84. Is he the headline speaker? If so, IMO, he probably needs to bow out. He's too much...

4. What?

10. You mean people who actually get off their ass and organize a convention should have some say?

24. I need a link to share, but yes! And

26. Here

135. They got to decide who they wanted

164. They can organize it but I don't have to go...and no more donations from me either.

192. +1!

12. Yea, in between the

15. Calling for silencing? Rather hyperbolic.

27. I assume by "over-reaction"

183. Yes, your assumption is correct ...

184. NP

259. Why those hysterical females...they overreacted...I am sure some manspainin

261. You need to go back

276. I attack no one...but I feel they absolutely blew it.