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Sat Oct 14, 2017, 09:06 AM

 

Rachel is making a mistake IMO: Manafort, Trump, Stone go way back to 1980.

Manafort, Trump, Stone go way back to 1980 & Sater to 2002




Roger Stone founds a lobbying practice with Paul Manafort, who is a childhood friend. Trump becomes one of Stone’s first clients. In the 1980s, Trump hires Manafort as his lawyer on gambling and real-estate issues. By 1988, Stone is one of Trump’s closest advisers. http://billmoyers.com/story/trump-russia-timeline/



1979
Roy Cohn Introduces Trump to Nixon ‘Dirty Trickster’ Roger Stone

1980
Stone and Manafort Go Into Business


Roger Stone founds a lobbying practice with Paul Manafort; Trump becomes one of Stone’s first clients. In the 1980s, Trump hires Manafort as his lawyer on gambling and real estate issues. By 1988, Stone is one of Trump’s closest advisers.


1984
Alleged Russian Mobster Buys Condos in Trump Tower
David Bogatin, a 38-year-old former Soviet Army pilot and Russian émigré who arrived in America seven years earlier with just $3 in his pocket, pays $6 million for five condominium units in a luxurious new Manhattan high-rise, Trump Tower. At the time, Russian mobsters were beginning to invest in high-end US real estate as a way to launder money from their criminal enterprises.

2000
Trump and Stone Explore Presidential Run
Roger Stone serves as chairman of Donald Trump’s presidential exploratory advisory committee.


2002
Felix Sater Enters the Picture
Russian-born Felix Sater and his company Bayrock Group — a Trump Tower tenant — begin working with Trump on a series of real estate development deals, one of which becomes Trump SoHo.



MORE HERE:
A Timeline: Russia and President Trump
http://billmoyers.com/story/trump-russia-timeline/


FYI:

In 2006, the year he reportedly began working for Deripaska, Manafort bought a condo in Trump Tower for $3,675,000 through an LLC called John Hannah. John is Manafort’s middle name, and Hannah is the middle name of that of his then-business partner, Rick Davis.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-aide-manafort-bought-new-york-homes-cash-n739796


The Comprehensive Timeline Of Donald Trump's History With Russia | The Last Word | MSNBC

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Reply Rachel is making a mistake IMO: Manafort, Trump, Stone go way back to 1980. (Original post)
Madam45for2923 Oct 2017 OP
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Achilleaze Oct 2017 #5
Madam45for2923 Oct 2017 #10
rawhideal Oct 2017 #20
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PatSeg Oct 2017 #23
Tatiana Oct 2017 #18
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SergeStorms Oct 2017 #33
PatSeg Oct 2017 #35
FarPoint Oct 2017 #31
CincyDem Oct 2017 #34
malaise Oct 2017 #3
Madam45for2923 Oct 2017 #9
malaise Oct 2017 #15
tanyev Oct 2017 #4
Madam45for2923 Oct 2017 #8
L. Coyote Oct 2017 #11
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L. Coyote Oct 2017 #14
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Not Ruth Oct 2017 #16
JHan Oct 2017 #19
UCmeNdc Oct 2017 #21
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JI7 Oct 2017 #25
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Loge23 Oct 2017 #27
cilla4progress Oct 2017 #29
Madam45for2923 Oct 2017 #36
Mike Nelson Oct 2017 #30
cilla4progress Oct 2017 #32
NCjack Oct 2017 #37
Madam45for2923 Oct 2017 #38
cilla4progress Oct 2017 #39
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Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 09:08 AM

1. In 2006, the year he reportedly began working for Deripaska, Manafort bought a condo in Trump Tower

 

In 2006, the year he reportedly began working for Deripaska, Manafort bought a condo in Trump Tower for $3,675,000 through an LLC called John Hannah. John is Manafort’s middle name, and Hannah is the middle name of that of his then-business partner, Rick Davis.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-aide-manafort-bought-new-york-homes-cash-n739796


Yep, that iceberg photo going around seems very true.

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Response to Madam45for2923 (Reply #1)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 09:17 AM

5. Thereby also desecrating the name of a real "John Hannah"

Who was an outstanding player for the New England Patriots, and Pro Football Hall of Famer. Republicans have no respect.



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Response to Achilleaze (Reply #5)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 09:26 AM

10. These people are super desecrators and defecators/

 

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Response to Achilleaze (Reply #5)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 11:19 AM

20. Also

Played at Alabama

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Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 09:10 AM

2. Manafort & Stone are childhood friends.

 

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Response to Madam45for2923 (Reply #2)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 09:18 AM

6. The Dubious Friends of Donald Trump parts 1,2 & 3: The Russians, King of Diamonds, Billion$ Fraud

 

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THE DUBIOUS FRIENDS OF DONALD TRUMP PART ONE: THE RUSSIANS



THE DUBIOUS FRIENDS OF DONALD TRUMP PART TWO: KING OF DIAMONDS



THE DUBIOUS FRIENDS OF DONALD TRUMP PART THREE: THE BILLION DOLLAR FRAUD





Although still in its early days, Donald Trump’s presidency is coming under fire. The Russians are alleged to be in possession of sensitive information about Trump. And that exposes Trump to blackmail. Fake news, tweets Trump: “I have nothing to do with Russia – no deals, no loans, no nothing!” Trump swears he has no ties with the Russians. But is that actually the case?

In the second part of our programme about Donald Trump’s controversial friends, we will set our sights on the Russian Jewish billionaire Lev Leviev, who is controversial because he is suspected of trading in blood diamonds. He is one of the world’s biggest diamond traders and owns prestigious stores in New York and Moscow, but he is also the owner of Siebel, the Netherlands’ biggest jewellery chain. Leviev has ties with Russian president Putin, US president Trump and his son-in-law and senior adviser Jared Kushner. Trump, however, claims he hardly knows this “King of Diamonds” . Zembla investigates Lev Leviev’s business empire.

https://zembla.vara.nl/dossier/uitzending/de-omstreden-vrienden-van-donald-trump-de-russen


https://zembla.vara.nl/dossier/uitzending/the-dubious-friends-of-donald-trump-part-two-king-of-diamonds


Will Donald Trump go down due to his dubious ties to the former Soviet Union? The president seems to be getting in deeper and deeper. Special prosecutor Robert Mueller, who is investigating if Trump colluded with Russia in order to win the elections, is also digging into Trump's past as a business man. In that past, one of Donald Trump's business partners plays a crucial role, Felix Sater. A convicted felon who has ties with the Russian mafia. Last May, Zembla disclosed how an American real estate company, run by Sater, used Dutch mailbox companies within a network, which has been suspected of laundering money. Allegedly $1.5 million dollars had been diverted. Donald Trump developed hotels and apartment complexes with this suspicious company.

In the last few months ZEMBLA received indications of a greater fraud. A billion dollar fraud. And here Sater, Trump's questionable business partner, shows up, as well. The money trail leads to Kazakhstan, to real estate projects in New York and again to the Netherlands. ZEMBLA investigates: How compromising is this case for the current president of America?

https://zembla.bnnvara.nl/nieuws/the-controversial-friends-of-donald-trump-part-iii-the-billion-dollar-fraud



Fugitive Kazakh clan has deep ties to Trump associates. Watch documentary made by @ZEMBLA w/ @OCCRP & @McClatchyDC:





http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article176003346.html

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Response to Madam45for2923 (Reply #6)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 09:19 AM

7. I think one KEY PERSON in this video just died of a heart attack! Russians have lots heart problems

 

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Response to Madam45for2923 (Reply #7)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 12:00 PM

23. Strange isn't it

Hmmmm, bad diet perhaps?

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Response to Madam45for2923 (Reply #2)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 10:50 AM

18. That picture sends chills up my spine.

So much evil perpetrated by members of the Republican party.

Lord, I hope Mueller can nail these a$$holes.

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Response to Madam45for2923 (Reply #2)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 12:02 PM

24. I'm trying to picture these guys in high school

A little nerdy and rather odd, I'd think. Definitely didn't have a date for the prom.

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #24)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 01:48 PM

33. They may have had dates....

but they were never seen or heard from again. 'Some people say' they now reside in various landfills in and around the New York/New Jersey area. That is to say, pieces of them reside in various landfills in and around the New York/New Jersey area. Hey, that's what 'some people say'.

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Response to SergeStorms (Reply #33)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 02:11 PM

35. Or a few of them

may live in dungeon in their basements. Really, really creepy guys.

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Response to Madam45for2923 (Reply #2)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 01:25 PM

31. Shit!!!!

This is a good find! Excellent work.

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Response to Madam45for2923 (Reply #2)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 01:52 PM

34. Along with gold ole Lee Attwater if I'm not mistaken.

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Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 09:13 AM

3. Excellent post

Get thee to the greatest page

LOCK THEM UP!

Truth be told - Groper Don the Con, Stone and Manafort should have been locked up years ago.

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Response to malaise (Reply #3)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 09:21 AM

9. Thnks! Malaise I recommend watching the 3 videos posted just above in order.

 

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Response to Madam45for2923 (Reply #9)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 09:56 AM

15. Will do later this morning

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Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 09:15 AM

4. How dare he disgrace the good name of John Hannah!

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Response to tanyev (Reply #4)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 09:19 AM

8. "Disgraceful" is too kind.

 

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Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 09:39 AM

11. Deja DU: Who is Roger Stone, the Long-Time R Dirty-Trickster and Miami Mob Leader?

Just another infamous member of the gigantic Republican cabal of felonious characters known as the vast right-wing conspiracy.
Today's question might better be "Who is the Swiftboat Admiral?" Hindsight tells us the moneybags behind the evil tricksters was Donald J. Trump.

Here's my previous, very long thread, with just a brief part quoted:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3052618

L. Coyote ---- Mar-24-08 09:35 AM

Who is Roger Stone, the Long-Time R Dirty-Trickster and Miami Mob Leader?

I'm starting this thread on the infamous DIRTY TRICKSTER rather than place this on all the redundant threads about Stone reporting Elliot Spitzer to the FBI.

TOPIC: Dirty tricks and the dirty tricksters who work behind the political scenes.
Stone may epitomize this genre of operative better than other "known" figures today, excepting Karl Rove.


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Who is Roger Stone, Jr.? Buckley, Nixon, Reagan, Bush operative.
from Bush vs. Gore, the 'Arkansas Project,' the USA firings, and the Swiftboat Admiral
Jun-02-07 - http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1029113
"Roger J. Stone, Jr. is a long-time Republican dirty-tricks operative who led the mob that shut down the Miami-Dade County recount and helped make George W. Bush president in 2000. He was also a campaign strategist during the presidential campaigns of Presidents Nixon, Reagan and George Herbert Walker Bush. He is the chairman of the Fort Hill Group, a Washington, D.C.-based public affairs firm...." (https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Roger_J._Stone,_Jr.)

This is another case of illegal and stealth funding. "... During the 2004 presidential primary, Stone served as a behind-the-scenes consultant to black firebrand Al Sharpton's campaign to win the Democratic Party nomination, prompting speculation that Sharpton's campaign was actually a stealth operation to weaken the party's chances of winning in the general election."

Roger Stone, Jr., began his career volunteering for William F. Buckley’s 1965 mayoral campaign, and has since had roles in the presidential campaigns of Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush. A veteran Republican operative, Stone went to Florida to help the Bush campaign" during the 2000 recount, where he is creditied with organizing the "recount riot." Remember that gaggle of Washington D.C. Congressional aides, the posers pretending to be enraged Floridians, yeah--the guys who got their daily marching orders slipped under hotel doors in envelopes, that's the crew Stone puportedly directed via walkie-talkie from across the street.

Stone has ties to Morton Blackwell's Leadership Institute and started his career in the College Republican National Committee during the Nixon era, when Blackwell "had turned it into a school for political dirty tricks. Both Stone and Blackwell have been closely connected since the 1970's with right-wing fundraiser Richard Viguerie." (http://www.abunchofgreedyrightwingliarswhoworkforwalmar... )

Richard Viguerie, is connected to Scaife, and like Scaife, has been dubbed "the funding father of the conservative movement". See American Target below.

Stone is associated with the swiftboating of Dan Rather. Check this DU thread: https://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2400623

Mike Krempasky: "I've been using Roger Stone's email system for one of my California statewide campaigns."

And, where o' where is rathergate.com located?
Administrative Contact = Mike Krempasky: contact @rathergate.com
RatherGate
6814 Kincaid Ave
Falls Church, VA 22042

That's the address of "RedState.com - Conservative News and Community and their contact is American Target.
(Also the address used by Thomas Crowe in the list of Boy Scouts of America Troop 654 Counselors.)

American Target "is" Richard Viguerie. Viguerie is connected to Falwell via the "People of Faith 2000" National Advisory Committee. ..................

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Response to L. Coyote (Reply #11)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 09:44 AM

12. These losers all attracted each other. What a clown-show this bunch!

 

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Response to Madam45for2923 (Reply #12)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 09:52 AM

14. More like a bunch of pro criminals dressed as clowns to rob the national treasury and

break up the country so the Russian mob can steal everything.

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Response to L. Coyote (Reply #14)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 10:48 AM

17. Nefarious & malicious agents.

 

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Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 09:50 AM

13. Deja DU: I don't believe Trump for one second. Roger Stone works for Trump.

A more recent thread on Donald Trump and his old buddy Roger Stone, also with a Deja DU perspective:

L. Coyote -- Jul 25, 2016, 04:39 PM https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2296022

1. I don't believe Trump for one second. Roger Stone works for Trump.



Some History of Trump Operatives

Deja DU excerpts, many more at link: Bush vs. Gore, the 'Arkansas Project,' the USA firings, and the Swiftboat Admiral

L. Coyote Jun-09-07
44. Donald Trump, Roger Stone, Jack Abramoff, Gaming Gaming and Scalping the Tribes.

How is it that two consumate Republican insiders, both purported specialists in illegal
funding of campaigns, one a political dirty trickster who stays behind the scenes and
the other a felonious convict linked to the White House political office, each manage
to garner tens of millions of dollars from Indian tribes in the gaming rackets? By
working both sides at once, of course. And, how is it that one gets convicted and goes
to jail while the other keeps getting paid? Who is scalping whom for how much, who has
lost their scalp, who still has theirs, and will Donald Trump's hair survive the scandals?

With all the attention to Abramoff defrauding the Tribes, why isn't there more attention on
who else is involved in all of gaming's political machinations and influence peddling?

Who has lucrative contracts to receive a percentage of the gross from Indian casinos, and
how did they obtain it? Where is all that money going? How much ends up in the coffers of
politicos like Sen. John McCain, and why? Who else is scalping the Tribes?

And how much of the scalping goes to legal and illegal campaign contributions?

Questions to be answered. ......................


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Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 10:06 AM

16. The FBI has been all over Trump for decades

 

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Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 11:07 AM

19. K&R

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Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 11:36 AM

21. K&R

I did not know they were all friends for such a long time.

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Response to UCmeNdc (Reply #21)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 11:40 AM

22. I know so it changes the narrative Rachel is using as if Manafort appeared only during last year's

 

election. Plus he had a condo in Trump Tower in NY since 2006.

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Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 12:27 PM

25. Did you email this to her ?

if not, you should. I think they do read them.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #25)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 12:31 PM

26. Thanks! Yep, maybe I should. Will let you know...

 

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Response to JI7 (Reply #25)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 12:44 PM

28. I emailed Rachel Maddow all of this just now! Send it to Rachel@msnbc.com

 

Rachel@msnbc.com

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/send-it-rachel

Thanks for the great idea and recommendation!

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Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 12:41 PM

27. The #Moron's greed will undo him

I believe that the defining sin of all of the #IPOTUS's transgressions will be money laundering.
I also think that Eric Schneiderman, the AG from New York, will nail him on this - thereby negating any pardon possibility.
Prepare for a global party of unprecedented proportions if/when this occurs.
We'll still have tens of millions of total idiots in this country to deal with though.

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Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 01:01 PM

29. Just re-watched Good Night and Good Luck

Amazing the linkage all the way back between Cohn/tRump

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Response to cilla4progress (Reply #29)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 02:11 PM

36. Thanks! I am going to take this as a movie recommendation! Much appreciated!

 



cilla4progress
29. Just re-watched Good Night and Good Luck
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Amazing the linkage all the way back between Cohn/tRump

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Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 01:21 PM

30. Deplorable...

...deplorable and deplorable.

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Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 01:28 PM

32. Timeline on Moyers is amazing

he did a lot of Mueller's work for him.

Clearly trump has been a criminal enterprise from the beginning. It's all out there.

I wonder how this will go down, given trump's base's penchant for automatic weapons.

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Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 02:56 PM

37. I visited Moyers site and found Lee Atwater in a photo

See Moyers site [link:http://billmoyers.com/story/trump-russia-timeline/|]
and from the panel of suspects, I select "Paul Manafort" and "Roger Stone" and press the buttons "Expand" and "Oldest First"

The result gives a photo (1980) of three men: Paul Manafort, Roger Stone, and Lee Atwater (d. 1991).

Atwater was the person responsible for depriving USA of probably the most capable person we could have for president -- Michael Dukakis. Atwater was the author and purveyor of the vicious, racist Willie Horton attack ad.

"While I didn't invent negative politics," he said, "I am one of its most ardent practitioners." (Lee Atwater)

An African-American friend of mine was an active DEM party worker in DC in the 1980-2000 period. He told me that "we just couldn't beat Atwater -- he always came out on top, dirty -- but on top." There was a compliment: "We took every opportunity to hear Lee play the blues on guitar. He could have been a very successful performer. When we read his deathbed confession ([link:http://www.nytimes.com/1991/01/13/us/gravely-ill-atwater-offers-apology.html|], a few tears flowed."

Maybe, old friend, a few flowed from you, but not from me. I will concede that Atwater did make a great apology in his confession, but it was too late to undo the damage he did. And, it did not change the GOP's campaign tactics.

The world is lucky that Atwater was not able to have a long run with Manafort and Stone. It could be much worse than now.

Time for Manafort and Stone to confess and apologize.

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Response to NCjack (Reply #37)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 02:58 PM

38. Manafort, Stone & Donald are koo-koo ka-ka in the brain. No apologies are forthcoming.

 

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Response to NCjack (Reply #37)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 03:09 PM

39. I remember

Atwater.

Republicans have been up to dirty tricks since at least as far back as McCarthy and Nixon.

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Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)

Sun Oct 15, 2017, 10:00 PM

40. Kicking!

 

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