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Siwsan

(26,250 posts)
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 04:40 PM Oct 2017

Artist who placed urinating dog next to Fearless Girl statue killed by N.Y. train

The artist who placed a urinating dog statute next to the “Fearless Girl” statue on Wall Street was killed by a train Thursday, New York Daily News reports.

Alexander Gardega, 48, was a Manhattan-based painter. He described himself in his Instagram bio as “a professional scribbler, press junkie and politically incorrect to my very artistic core.”

Shortly after placing his urinating dog statue, Gardega told the New York Post that “Fearless Girl was corporate nonsense” and a publicity stunt.

“Fearless Girl” was placed opposite the “Charging Bull” statue.

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http://www.kansascity.com/news/nation-world/article178906381.html

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Artist who placed urinating dog next to Fearless Girl statue killed by N.Y. train (Original Post) Siwsan Oct 2017 OP
Wow shenmue Oct 2017 #1
For those that missed it earlier: the firm behind the "Fearless Girl" statue was fined... PoliticAverse Oct 2017 #2
Somehow... tonedevil Oct 2017 #7
It was an exercise in pinkwashing jberryhill Oct 2017 #10
Perhaps... Adrahil Oct 2017 #14
You probably didn't mean viscous ;) unblock Oct 2017 #17
You are correct! Lol! Adrahil Oct 2017 #19
Social systems are often resistant to change... petronius Oct 2017 #20
Ah, guess I was just being thick unblock Oct 2017 #21
Well, it WAS a corporate stunt. But the world has a way of turning in interesting ways sometimes. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2017 #3
Hoping for similar instant karma for Trump and every one of his disciples Mr. Ected Oct 2017 #4
You beat me to it...I was thinking the same thing. BigmanPigman Oct 2017 #8
Me too! MLAA Oct 2017 #27
Yeah, some 'artists' have nothing wise to say. byronius Oct 2017 #5
"Damaging someone else's expression for personal elevation". brush Oct 2017 #11
The artist who made the bull statue isn't too pleased with the fearless girl addition. n/t PoliticAverse Oct 2017 #12
Exactly my point. brush Oct 2017 #13
Yep. Loki Liesmith Oct 2017 #16
You can say the same thing... tonedevil Oct 2017 #23
How so? There wasn't another piece of art there that the bull intruded upon and thereby... brush Oct 2017 #29
They snuck it in... tonedevil Oct 2017 #34
Wall Steet accepted it as a symbol. The Fearless Girl artist could've done the same thing... brush Oct 2017 #35
Fearless girl... tonedevil Oct 2017 #36
Did all that about one artist respecting another's concept go over your head? brush Oct 2017 #40
Moreover, bull was moved from its original spot. Its artist had to accept that. stevenleser Oct 2017 #43
Loving fearless girl is like loving the Pillsbury Doughboy. The firm uses her in their marketing now TeamPooka Oct 2017 #30
A fitting ... tonedevil Oct 2017 #6
"A fitting end" Loki Liesmith Oct 2017 #15
Did I say he should be... tonedevil Oct 2017 #22
your comment that this was a "fitting end" is reprehensible. TeamPooka Oct 2017 #31
Do you actually know... tonedevil Oct 2017 #33
Your comment was morally reprehensible. TeamPooka Oct 2017 #38
OK.. tonedevil Oct 2017 #39
Yep, pretty horrible. nt stevenleser Oct 2017 #44
Oh well. smirkymonkey Oct 2017 #9
The man may have taken his own life. blogslut Oct 2017 #18
Yeah. Suicide and heavy drug use are the only explanations that come to mind DanTex Oct 2017 #26
A guy who works for me was in the front seat when a woman jumped in front of his train in Chicago Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2017 #28
For those who believe in Karma.. (nt) question everything Oct 2017 #24
It can be a beautiful thing. Doreen Oct 2017 #25
That was supposed to be a dog? JHB Oct 2017 #32
It looks more like a small pig. Judi Lynn Oct 2017 #37
It was intentionally done roughly from what I read that was part of his statement stevenleser Oct 2017 #42
That's a dog? ileus Oct 2017 #41
 

tonedevil

(3,022 posts)
7. Somehow...
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 04:59 PM
Oct 2017

there is always a story in the story. Fearless Girl was/is a great symbol, but now we see her "parents" don't understand the message of their art work.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
14. Perhaps...
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 05:56 PM
Oct 2017

But how many knew who put it there?

Most people saw a defiant girl facing down a vicious system. That's not a bad thing.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
4. Hoping for similar instant karma for Trump and every one of his disciples
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 04:50 PM
Oct 2017

The world would be a MUCH better place to live in.

byronius

(7,391 posts)
5. Yeah, some 'artists' have nothing wise to say.
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 04:50 PM
Oct 2017

'Killed by a train' --

'Publicity stunt' --

I feel like I know this guy. I had a friend once with a similar bent. Damaging someone else's expression for personal elevation -- one can find it all over the human behavioral spectrum. Corporate publicity stunt or not, Fearless Girl meant something, still means something. It said something.



brush

(53,743 posts)
11. "Damaging someone else's expression for personal elevation".
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 05:43 PM
Oct 2017

You can say the same thing about the "Fearless Girl" corporate stunt, right?

brush

(53,743 posts)
29. How so? There wasn't another piece of art there that the bull intruded upon and thereby...
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 11:35 PM
Oct 2017

infringed upon another artist's concept.

 

tonedevil

(3,022 posts)
34. They snuck it in...
Sun Oct 15, 2017, 12:52 AM
Oct 2017

In the middle of the night. I guess you want to give them the upperhand for stealing in first. I don't see any difference.

brush

(53,743 posts)
35. Wall Steet accepted it as a symbol. The Fearless Girl artist could've done the same thing...
Sun Oct 15, 2017, 01:02 AM
Oct 2017

somewhere else without intruding onto another artist's concept, but being bought and paid for by a corporation the sculptor threw respect for another artist's work to the wind.

Professional courtesy.

Guess you have to be an artist to get that — or not.

 

tonedevil

(3,022 posts)
36. Fearless girl...
Sun Oct 15, 2017, 01:28 AM
Oct 2017

is facing the fucking bull, a symbol of Wall Street, the one that is screwing us all to hell. That doesn't work anywhere else. Bull had no right to be there, but it worked so it won a spot. Fearless Girl is equally deserving for the way she represents we the little people against Wall Street.

brush

(53,743 posts)
40. Did all that about one artist respecting another's concept go over your head?
Sun Oct 15, 2017, 07:49 AM
Oct 2017

Last edited Sun Oct 15, 2017, 07:27 PM - Edit history (1)

Or are you with the bought-and-paid for corporate entity that Fearless Girl is?

It's a corporate symbol used in advertising for God's sake. It's not representing any "little people".

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
43. Moreover, bull was moved from its original spot. Its artist had to accept that.
Sun Oct 15, 2017, 10:42 AM
Oct 2017

Wall Street did not initially appreciate it, so it was moved.

I like the concept of little girl but the part about changing a previous artists work against his will is disturbing.

TeamPooka

(24,207 posts)
30. Loving fearless girl is like loving the Pillsbury Doughboy. The firm uses her in their marketing now
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 11:47 PM
Oct 2017

The statue, which rode on the coattails of insulting another artist to garner initial attention, is just a corporate symbol.
Aunt Jemima, Mrs. Butterworth, Fearless Girl: All The same.


 

tonedevil

(3,022 posts)
6. A fitting ...
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 04:55 PM
Oct 2017

end to political incorrectness. Perhaps the dog can be placed next to the artist's tombstone?

 

tonedevil

(3,022 posts)
22. Did I say he should be...
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 06:16 PM
Oct 2017

executed? I just found his use of the peeing dog to be an assertion of male dominance and calling himself politically incorrect quite boorish. With that in mind I'm not saddened to hear of his demise. By the way, I don't think there is any correlation between bad art and getting hit by a train.

TeamPooka

(24,207 posts)
31. your comment that this was a "fitting end" is reprehensible.
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 11:49 PM
Oct 2017

People should die for making art?
No love of the 1st Amendment here.

 

tonedevil

(3,022 posts)
33. Do you actually know...
Sun Oct 15, 2017, 12:47 AM
Oct 2017

what the first amendment covers. Because at no point have I suggested the government censor this dumbass or any other. Question for you TeamPooka when did I say someone should die for making art? Produce the exact quote or just slink away.

blogslut

(37,982 posts)
18. The man may have taken his own life.
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 06:05 PM
Oct 2017
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/manhattan/subway-hit-vic-urinating-dog-art-fearless-girl-statue-article-1.3561378

...Motorman James Muñoz, 46, said the train was about 100 feet away from the station when the emergency brake kicked in.

“So I just had to investigate and see what was the cause,” Muñoz said. “I have a flashlight, I was able to see it clearly."

Muñoz said he found Gardega between the seventh train car and the maintenance catwalk that runs along the tracks. He said Gardega was likely on the tracks when he was struck...

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
26. Yeah. Suicide and heavy drug use are the only explanations that come to mind
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 10:33 PM
Oct 2017

as to why someone would be there.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,311 posts)
28. A guy who works for me was in the front seat when a woman jumped in front of his train in Chicago
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 11:25 PM
Oct 2017

He was fucked up for a week. His description was awful.

JHB

(37,156 posts)
32. That was supposed to be a dog?
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 11:53 PM
Oct 2017

Condolences to his family, but the art world hasn't exactly lost much. Having checked out some of his other, less assholish works, I can say that I chip in to more talented people on Patreon.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
42. It was intentionally done roughly from what I read that was part of his statement
Sun Oct 15, 2017, 10:38 AM
Oct 2017

My understanding was that he was pretty talented.

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