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Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia said Wednesday that the 5-4 decision that delivered the Presidency of the United States to George W. Bush in 2000 was the most controversial ruling of his career at the nations top court.
I guess the one that created the most waves of disagreement was Bush v. Gore, he told CNNs Piers Morgan. That comes up all the time, and my usual response is: get over it.
Get over the possible corruption of the American presidential system? Morgan asked, as Scalia laughed. Justice Scalia?
Look, my court didnt bring the case into court, Scalia responded. It was brought into the courts by Al Gore. He is the one that wanted courts to decide the question. When Richard Nixon thought he had lost the election because of chicanery in Chicago, he chose not the bring it into the courts, but Al Gore wanted the courts to decide it.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/07/18/scalia-on-ruling-in-bush-v-gore-get-over-it/
First, you select the worst president ever, overriding the voters' wishes, then you choose to make their voices disappear altogether under the din of corporate cash.
Fuck you, fat Tony.
orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)NinetySix
(1,301 posts)If Gore were the plaintiff, it would have been "Gore v. Bush." Same old bullshit RW/Foxnoise talking point which, to reiterate, is a LIE.
orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)flamingdem
(39,313 posts)coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)chollybocker
(3,687 posts)There ya go.
Now can we impeach him?
Tennessee Gal
(6,160 posts)Look, my court didnt bring the case into court, Scalia responded. It was brought into the courts by Al Gore. He is the one that wanted courts to decide the question. When Richard Nixon thought he had lost the election because of chicanery in Chicago, he chose not the bring it into the courts, but Al Gore wanted the courts to decide it.
Yes, Al Gore wanted the Florida courts to decide it because their laws applied. And their laws were being manipulated and undermined by the Republican Governor Bush, brother of candidate George W. Bush, and looney lying Katherine Harris. Gore did not bring it to the Supreme Court! The case was Bush v. Gore, meaning, Bush brought suit to the Supreme Court to overturn a ruling by the Florida Supreme Court.
nmbluesky
(2,561 posts)Fuck. Him
Initech
(100,064 posts)coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)it was predicate to a Civil War that claimed some 2 million lives.
Swagman
(1,934 posts)"get over it!" and laughing...what an insult.
totally undignified.
coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)to slip into American parochialism. But you have re-centered my perspective and that's a good thing.
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)were any real justice, that fat pig of a man (with apologies to pigs everywhere) would be publicly hung and it would be carried on every channel.
unblock
(52,199 posts)Swagman
(1,934 posts)unblock
(52,199 posts)using the aptly name creep (committee to re-elect the president) to fund blatantly criminal activity, and of course then stonewall investigation through coverup.
he won in a landslide and was always going to win. he cheated for the sake of cheating and for the vein hope of winning all 50 states.
yeah, that's justice! tell gore, the DEFENDANT in the bush v. gore, that he should have been more like nixon and, uh, not had bush bring the case to the supreme court!
bush v. gore was beyond compare, the single most blatantly partisan and corrupt decision the supreme court has ever handed down. the first and only decision ever to declare itself as a non-precedent (big tip-off that scalia knew it was a thoroughly corrupt decision -- he was already paving the way for him to use different legal logic to declare a different republican the victor in some other election, should that case arise).
he argued that florida, under equal justice, couldn't use differing methods for recounts, so he left in place the count, which used different methods for the original count! so instead of having a recount with minimal errors, he affirmed an original count with greater errors -- disenfranchising people in the name of equal justice!
Samantha
(9,314 posts)It was ALWAYS Baker's intention to get the matter decided by the Supreme Court, and that was from the early moments when the recount dispute broke. They (meaning the Republicans) knew if they could just get it there, Bush* would prevail. Notice I avoided the use of the word "win."
That is exactly why so many taunts were issued to Al Gore, hoping they could goad him into suing. But Al Gore knew half the Country would never accept the one who won a lawsuit as "legitimate." And he was so right about that. So the Republicans filed the first lawsuit, although one reads to the contrary sometimes, because Gore did not budge.
Furthermore, the Supreme Court had absolutely no authority to undo the Florida Supreme's Court decision. The Constitution clearly delegates the authority to run elections to the states, provided each outlines their election laws clearly in their state constitutions. Florida did have its rules outlined, unfortunately both its old ones and its new ones, in its Constitution. Bush played by the old rules, and Gore followed the ones enacted two years before the Presidential election -- contesting the election results and the steps outlining exactly the procedures to be followed.
Once the Florida Supreme Court ruled with its famous words, "The right to vote is paramount" (and that is so true), the matter should have ended with its ruling. For the Supreme Court to intervene based on that Safe Harbor provision (a provision enacted during the days the Pony Express carried the electoral college votes to Washington for the official count and was intended to set a deadline on when the horse and the rider had to be dispatched!) and that frivolous equal weight bomb which didn't even apply to the situation IS A CONSTITUTIONAL OUTRAGE AND MANY WILL NEVER GET OVER. WE JUST LIVE AND LEARN FROM IT ON A CONTINUAL DAILY BASIS.
And your legacy, Scalia, will be that history will regard you as one of the enablers that selected Bush* to be President, a man not qualified in the least to do so and not the winner of the popular vote or the legitimate winner of the electoral college vote since that Florida slate should not have been counted since it violated the state's own constitutional provisions, and in so doing, Scalia you put a man in the Oval Office who TANKED this Country, cost people their jobs, their lives and their trust in their Government. THAT WILL BE YOUR LEGACY.
And YOU WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO GET OVER THAT.
Sam
EOTE
(13,409 posts)RainDog
(28,784 posts)B Calm
(28,762 posts)lovemydog
(11,833 posts)Not what I'd expect to hear from a Supreme. What a sniveling coward. Who, by the way, got the law wrong. The case should have been remanded back to FL. I'd favor Scalia's impeachment.
loudsue
(14,087 posts)and its constitution.
May he burn in hell with junior and the rest of the bush clan.
Comrade_McKenzie
(2,526 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)Mofo.
Blue Owl
(50,349 posts)n/t
Kingofalldems
(38,452 posts)I bet he couldn't wait. He reveals himself in the interview.
muntrv
(14,505 posts)Therefore, Dimson brought the lawsuit!
SalviaBlue
(2,916 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)Thankfully the 'blame Nader' crowd is pretty insignificant and enough of us know what actually happened in 2000 to keep Tony, and his fellow criminals on the SC, worried about how history will view them.
scheming daemons
(25,487 posts)Gore would've won Florida without a recount, and thus the SCOTUS would've never been involved.
Nader getting 90,000 votes in Florida made it possible for the election to be stolen by the RW SCOTUS.
But keep telling yourself differently if it helps you Nader supporters sleep at night.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)Tony has been counting on that message selling to help cover for him and his partners in crime. Apparently it isn't selling though and he is constantly reminded of the fact that it was the SC alone who stole the election from the winner and gave it to the unelected faker who ended up in the WH.
Btw, if only Harris had not purged all those voters.
If only 300,000 Democrats had not voted for Bush.
If only the machines had not been tampered with.
If only the butterfly ballots had not existed.
If only Buchanan had not wrongfully received all those votes meant for Gore.
If only, if only Republicans didn't cheat because they can't win elections, all those votes they stole through different criminal activities, would have gone to Gore and the SC would not have been able to do what they did.
So many illegal 'if onlys' yet a few people still cling to the one person who did nothing illegal to blame it all on.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)as Ben Ladin did. Both cost a lot of Americans their lives.
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