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Bluerthanblue

(13,669 posts)
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 10:11 PM Jul 2012

Romney: Obama "wants Americans to be ashamed of success"-

Romney is making the claim that Pres Obama wants Americans to be ashamed of success.

Ok..... What is success?

suc·cess? ?/səkˈsɛs/ Show Spelled[suhk-ses] Show IPA
noun
1. the favorable or prosperous termination of attempts or endeavors.
2. the attainment of wealth, position, honors, or the like.
(Dictionary.com)

So...Why is Romney acting like he is embarrassed to show Americans the records of his prosperous career?

He is angry at Pres. Obama for asking him to share with America just how successful he's been .

[font size=6] Aren't you the one saying success is something to be ashamed of Mitt? [/font]

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Romney: Obama "wants Americans to be ashamed of success"- (Original Post) Bluerthanblue Jul 2012 OP
He personifies the success of a criminal. n/t BumRushDaShow Jul 2012 #1
No Mitt Turbineguy Jul 2012 #2
Awesome come back! alcibiades_mystery Jul 2012 #5
I knew Rmoney would turn this on Obama Politicalboi Jul 2012 #3
isn't his vast wealth tangible evidence of his success? Bluerthanblue Jul 2012 #16
Nailed it!! patrice Jul 2012 #4
To the wall!!! Solomon Jul 2012 #8
Me too. It's better than what I was saying . . . fewer cuss words. nt patrice Jul 2012 #14
thank Bluerthanblue Jul 2012 #21
thanks! Bluerthanblue Jul 2012 #20
Romney needs to prove he didn't steal tens of millions of dollars from the US DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2012 #6
Romney didn't attain wealth - he exported it. Initech Jul 2012 #7
Weird Willard, if you lack the character to reel in your naked avarice TheKentuckian Jul 2012 #9
I agree with you Bluerthanblue Jul 2012 #19
wow! that is really lame.... madrchsod Jul 2012 #10
Shame on you Embarrassmitt Rmoney! lonestarnot Jul 2012 #11
Lawrence O'Donnell tonight speculated that Romney might actually be worth more than $1 billion aint_no_life_nowhere Jul 2012 #12
the shame of it is this is the best he can do cindyperry2010 Jul 2012 #13
Could be interesting to have a president who actually was successful SDjack Jul 2012 #15
Romney's exactly the guy you want, then... JHB Jul 2012 #25
You mean like Herbert Hoover? Or George W. Bush? Those are the last two successful businessmen... Scuba Jul 2012 #28
ya know I'm not sure a businessman would make a good president- Bluerthanblue Jul 2012 #31
Yeah, y'all have convinced me. Or, have you? George Washington SDjack Jul 2012 #32
sorry- Bluerthanblue Jul 2012 #33
I think that a CEO of a manufacturing company managed for "customer satisfaction" SDjack Jul 2012 #34
thanks Bluerthanblue Jul 2012 #35
Why do you have to lie about what he said, Mitt? JHB Jul 2012 #17
and now he's trying to own the talking point Bluerthanblue Jul 2012 #23
Mitt's idea of success is closing down B Calm Jul 2012 #18
BHO wants people to be ashamed of persons who will make money off sweat of Hard Working Americans... Tikki Jul 2012 #22
Rmoney has no shame. nt tsuki Jul 2012 #24
Obama has a human definition of "sucess", Mitt... JHB Jul 2012 #26
Twist and Shout, Mitt, as your campaign goes down the spout. Democrats_win Jul 2012 #27
Let's see what the ol' 8-ball says to Mitt... Bucky Jul 2012 #29
Oh fuck off Romney. Zoeisright Jul 2012 #30
 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
3. I knew Rmoney would turn this on Obama
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 10:18 PM
Jul 2012

Like Obama is the ONLY one who wants to see his taxes. Rmoney will yell shit about freedom, success, distortion, and apologies.

No tax disclosure will be the GOP norm after this.

Bluerthanblue

(13,669 posts)
16. isn't his vast wealth tangible evidence of his success?
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 10:56 PM
Jul 2012

I say Romney is the one who is demonstrating "shame", and demonstrating that by refusing to show America just "how" successful he really is.

Maybe we wouldn't like him so much if we knew?

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
6. Romney needs to prove he didn't steal tens of millions of dollars from the US
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 10:21 PM
Jul 2012

...before he opens his trap about anything else.

http://huff.to/MloOwR

TheKentuckian

(25,023 posts)
9. Weird Willard, if you lack the character to reel in your naked avarice
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 10:36 PM
Jul 2012

then everyone else at least deserves fair warning, is all.

The people also deserve to know how you measure success. I know in my book no amount of money can save you from being an utter and contemptible failure.

Bluerthanblue

(13,669 posts)
19. I agree with you
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 11:02 PM
Jul 2012

some of the most 'successful' people I've known have little monetary wealth to show for their efforts. But they are rich in so many other ways. To people who have a capitalistic mentality they'd be seen as failures- not by my measure.


Romney continually equates success with money. Show us how successful you are Mr.money.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
12. Lawrence O'Donnell tonight speculated that Romney might actually be worth more than $1 billion
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 10:40 PM
Jul 2012

He says he has a friend with a similar background to Romney's who suggested Romney has a lot more money than we think. He said Romney's advisers may feel America isn't ready to elect a billionaire, as might be revealed in the returns.

cindyperry2010

(846 posts)
13. the shame of it is this is the best he can do
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 10:44 PM
Jul 2012

they got nothing and they know it that is what all of this panic is about

SDjack

(1,448 posts)
15. Could be interesting to have a president who actually was successful
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 10:52 PM
Jul 2012

in running a medium or heavy industrial manufacturing company. Someone who knew about labor management, working with unions, insurance, on the job injuries, etc. rMoney isn't that guy, as all he did was move money to his pocket from the pockets of shareholders and workers.

JHB

(37,158 posts)
25. Romney's exactly the guy you want, then...
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 12:34 PM
Jul 2012

George Romney, that is, not his "my numbers are bigger than yours, nyahh" son Mitt.

George died in 1995, though, and the Republicans are saving their cloning efforts for Reagan.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
28. You mean like Herbert Hoover? Or George W. Bush? Those are the last two successful businessmen...
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 12:44 PM
Jul 2012

... to be elected President.

Bluerthanblue

(13,669 posts)
31. ya know I'm not sure a businessman would make a good president-
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 01:07 PM
Jul 2012

I've been thinking about this a lot.

Business people are supposed to focus on ...'the bottom line'. Their concern and allegiance isn't really to the people who work for them, the people who are most vulnerable to the decisions that the CEO's make- but to the shareholders and owners of the Co. People are expendable. They are really just a commodity. A GOOD President should be far more concerned with the 'company' - The people who make up the 'business'

In the business world, you can replace all your employees, you can pick and choose who you want to keep and send those who don't live up to your standard packing. You get to pick and choose.
A President shouldn't be able to do that. A President has to make sure that there is a place for everyone in the company, and ensure that everyone is able to exist even if that quality of their existence isn't equal.

Running America shouldn't be all about money and military might- it shouldn't be about imperialism either. It should really be about equality and ensuring that every citizen has a place in and responsibility to the common good. A more perfect union, isn't so much judged on it's GDP imo, but on the quality of it's people and the value it- as a society -brings to the world as a whole.

(sorry for the rant, your post made me try to put thoughts in words)

SDjack

(1,448 posts)
32. Yeah, y'all have convinced me. Or, have you? George Washington
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 06:56 PM
Jul 2012

served as president and died as the richest businessman in USA. If we could find another "George Washington", it doesn't matter so much as what is in wallet as what he sees as a vision for USA. And, FDR added a group of CEO advisors ($1 per year men) to direct components of industry in optimizing production for the war effort. What came out of that was a new way to view corporate management, which was rejected by American businessmen but adopted by the Japanese after WWII. That is, focus on customer satisfaction ("quality&quot and profits take care of themselves. That is how HP became a powerhouse, before it gave it up under Carley. Anyway, managing business for customer satisfaction has a very close parallel with managing business for customer satisfaction.

Bluerthanblue

(13,669 posts)
33. sorry-
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 07:44 PM
Jul 2012

are you being sarcastic? I'm not understanding you. Could you try again maybe in a little simpler fashon?
thanks

SDjack

(1,448 posts)
34. I think that a CEO of a manufacturing company managed for "customer satisfaction"
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 09:51 AM
Jul 2012

has a better background to perform the duties of the presidency than a specialist, such as a lawyer, banker, educator, farmer, physician, scientist, accountant, social worker, and specialists of other departmental services of our government. The CEO has experience in coordinating activities and allocating and controlling funds to achieve the success of the corporation. When the vision of the CEO is to provide "customer satisfaction", the management of the company and government is similar. Pres. Obama is a specialist, and IMO, does not have an ideal background. Gov. rMoney is a businessman, but not of the "customer satisfaction" type. CS Management excludes screwing your employees and subsidiary shareholders. RMoney is more like a banker, sub-type loan shark. He has the worst experience for governing.

Bluerthanblue

(13,669 posts)
35. thanks
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 05:01 PM
Jul 2012

not sure that I agree with your perspective about a CEO being the best choice for the office, even with the "customer satisfaction" caviat, but I do agree that my broad-brush characterization of CEO's as completely unconcerned with the welfare of people and being solely focused on the monetary end of things was unfair.

Thank you . I appreciate your taking the time to help me understand your point of view.

JHB

(37,158 posts)
17. Why do you have to lie about what he said, Mitt?
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 10:59 PM
Jul 2012

That's not what he said. You know that. Why can't you respond without distorting, without lying, Governor?

Bluerthanblue

(13,669 posts)
23. and now he's trying to own the talking point
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 10:33 AM
Jul 2012

that Pres. Obama was actually making.

“I know that you recognize a lot of people help you in a business. Perhaps the bank, the investors. There is no question your mom and dad, your school teachers. The people who provide roads, the fire, the police. A lot of people help. But let me ask you this. Did you build your business? If you did, raise your hand. Take that, Mr. President! This is what’s happening in this country.”


stupid people
 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
18. Mitt's idea of success is closing down
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 11:01 PM
Jul 2012

US manufacturing companies, laying off hard workers, sending their jobs overseas and then raid their pension funds.

FUCK YOU ROMNEY!!

Tikki

(14,556 posts)
22. BHO wants people to be ashamed of persons who will make money off sweat of Hard Working Americans...
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 11:14 PM
Jul 2012

and then run that money off where he successfully hides his money from the taxes other Americans must pay.



Tikki

JHB

(37,158 posts)
26. Obama has a human definition of "sucess", Mitt...
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 12:37 PM
Jul 2012

...not one that doesn't give a damn for anything as long as the cash flow is in your direction.

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