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RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 03:17 PM Oct 2017

DU POLL: Do you think Trump would sign legislation reinstating the draft?

Last edited Sat Oct 21, 2017, 03:47 PM - Edit history (1)

I think there is a good possibility this is going to happen given the situations he seems to enjoy escalating.

Note, the question was updated due to a suggestion for more accuracy. See #14.


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DU POLL: Do you think Trump would sign legislation reinstating the draft? (Original Post) RKP5637 Oct 2017 OP
for one who never served under the last draft , has no idea , no idea whats iits like at the front o AllaN01Bear Oct 2017 #1
Our brave leader, president dotard. n/t RKP5637 Oct 2017 #6
Any one who remembers the Viet Nam draft knows why it Irish_Dem Oct 2017 #2
I certainly hope not!!! Young people being sent off to die in old peoples/congress's war RKP5637 Oct 2017 #5
And it was done by lottery. Remember that? Irish_Dem Oct 2017 #10
Yep! n/t RKP5637 Oct 2017 #13
I was drafted before the lottery started. Back then, it was up to the local draft board Glorfindel Oct 2017 #16
The lottery was nerve wracking. Sorry you had to go to VN. Irish_Dem Oct 2017 #20
Four years - yikes!!! LeftInTX Oct 2017 #34
My dad was in Korea too. Irish_Dem Oct 2017 #48
but DT doesn't. He was living it up as a Richie Rich bachelor Alice11111 Oct 2017 #7
Pathetic, he thinks he doing reality tv. n/t RKP5637 Oct 2017 #11
I guess HE is. The rest of us are just pieces of his Alice11111 Oct 2017 #15
he would have to, especially if he is talking about conflict with NK, Venezuela, Iran, Syria, etc SummerSnow Oct 2017 #3
He's at war with everyone, even the US. n/t RKP5637 Oct 2017 #8
he wants a civil war in the U.S. SummerSnow Oct 2017 #36
Depends on what kind of mess he gets us into... Would a strike on NK prompt a China response? Hard Purveyor Oct 2017 #4
Yep, that's what has me wondering, WTF he's up to, pulling former pilots out of retirement. RKP5637 Oct 2017 #9
If he gets 3 wars going, he may have to, and this time, Alice11111 Oct 2017 #12
Yeah, your last sentence is really scary, "We know, he can't let go of a fight, even when RKP5637 Oct 2017 #19
Well, I truly do mot think anyone would be worse than DT. Alice11111 Oct 2017 #27
That would require congressional approval BainsBane Oct 2017 #14
Thanks, I updated the question. n/t RKP5637 Oct 2017 #22
Yes, sadly, that is usually what happens with a draft, it ends up being the poor, lower-middle RKP5637 Oct 2017 #23
The more accurate question would be: Do you think Trump would sign legislation GoCubsGo Oct 2017 #17
Thanks, I updated the question. n/t RKP5637 Oct 2017 #21
I was getting drafted in 69 so I joined for a better deal. rickford66 Oct 2017 #18
Glad to hear it worked out well for you!!! I've known a number of guys and gals that serving in RKP5637 Oct 2017 #25
I went in firmly against the draft, but had my mind changed. rickford66 Oct 2017 #35
I've always felt it incorrect that only a few percentage of Americans serve in the military. RKP5637 Oct 2017 #37
Agree rickford66 Oct 2017 #38
donald Rump has already signed executive order to draft retired pilots back into military service trueblue2007 Oct 2017 #24
He's one scary character!!! n/t RKP5637 Oct 2017 #26
Raging with you, but it is true. He wants the 1950s back. Alice11111 Oct 2017 #28
He's also almost got his hair in a DA. n/t RKP5637 Oct 2017 #33
It takes an act of Congress to reinstate the draft DonViejo Oct 2017 #30
I also updated the question for the poll. n/t RKP5637 Oct 2017 #32
He might call a draft but I think he will go further Runningdawg Oct 2017 #29
"Us vs. Them" in the US. These hero real-men types sound more like treasonists than anyone else. n/t RKP5637 Oct 2017 #31
Since there will be no such legislation its an academic question (or poll). former9thward Oct 2017 #39
We should always have a draft. mobeau69 Oct 2017 #40
Would a draft dodging coward named Trump start a draft? workinclasszero Oct 2017 #41
Trump, is flushing the US right down the drain! n/t RKP5637 Oct 2017 #43
But Jill Stein and others assured us that there was no difference between the republican party workinclasszero Oct 2017 #44
And, he's just begun! You know, I bet he secretly admires Kim, all those people RKP5637 Oct 2017 #45
The idiot seems to think America is some kind of military dictatorship workinclasszero Oct 2017 #46
More and More he's a WWII type wannabee dictator! n/t RKP5637 Oct 2017 #47
Only if there was an "except anyone named Trump" clause. Vinca Oct 2017 #42

AllaN01Bear

(21,006 posts)
1. for one who never served under the last draft , has no idea , no idea whats iits like at the front o
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 03:21 PM
Oct 2017

r to serve at all.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
5. I certainly hope not!!! Young people being sent off to die in old peoples/congress's war
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 03:33 PM
Oct 2017

over a stupid dumb-fuck war. It was horrible and absolutely disgusting.

Glorfindel

(9,837 posts)
16. I was drafted before the lottery started. Back then, it was up to the local draft board
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 03:42 PM
Oct 2017

They had a quota, and they filled it, one way or another.

Irish_Dem

(53,117 posts)
20. The lottery was nerve wracking. Sorry you had to go to VN.
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 03:49 PM
Oct 2017

My father was flying missions in and out of Da Nang for four years during the VN war.

He flew cargo planes, carried in troop supplies to Da Nang, carried out dead bodies.

LeftInTX

(27,698 posts)
34. Four years - yikes!!!
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 04:57 PM
Oct 2017

My dad flew B-29s in Korea. I have no idea how long he was deployed.

He also flew cargo in VN. He flew DeHavilland Caribous. He was sent for a year in 1966. I was 10.

Irish_Dem

(53,117 posts)
48. My dad was in Korea too.
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 11:38 PM
Oct 2017

That was unaccompanied of course. He was gone about two years. He never talked about what he did in Korea, or what he flew. But my mother says he came back different, changed. And he never referred to his time there.

Then during the VN war, we were stationed in the Far East, the whole family, and we were there for four years 1962-1966 and the men flew missions to VN from Far East bases. It was so strange to me as a child, I remember him wearing unusual flight suits to fly combat, no name or rank, and he carried a gun on a belt on his waist. I was taken aback, especially when he told me what the gun was for, and why there was no identifying information on his flight suit.

He flew in WWII as well, in a bucket of an airplane, doing the Burma Hump.

 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
4. Depends on what kind of mess he gets us into... Would a strike on NK prompt a China response? Hard
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 03:29 PM
Oct 2017

to say. Would a strike on Iran provoke a Russia response? Hard to say.

Pull former pilots out of retirement is a ominous sign, indeed. Something is in the works.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
9. Yep, that's what has me wondering, WTF he's up to, pulling former pilots out of retirement.
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 03:37 PM
Oct 2017

Plus, he has no idea WTF he's doing, plus being a narcissistic sociopath, he could care less about death, misery and maiming of people.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
12. If he gets 3 wars going, he may have to, and this time,
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 03:39 PM
Oct 2017

girls, who are around 8 to 13 now, can be drafted.

Since, everything he touches, spirals unimaginably out of control, nothing would surprise me. He said he liked war during the campaign. We know, he can't let go of a fight, even when it's in his best interest.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
19. Yeah, your last sentence is really scary, "We know, he can't let go of a fight, even when
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 03:44 PM
Oct 2017

it's in his best interest." I'm not a panicky type, but I really do wonder where we're headed with this guy. What really pisses me off, all of the brilliant and capable people in the US, and we have a damn fool like Trump leading the country. If an ass like Trump can be elected, it really makes me wonder what's next.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
27. Well, I truly do mot think anyone would be worse than DT.
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 04:08 PM
Oct 2017

Churchill's grandson, a conservative, called DT a "daft twerp," today.
Not too diplomatic, but we are long past that.

BainsBane

(53,432 posts)
14. That would require congressional approval
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 03:41 PM
Oct 2017

And the military doesn’t support it. Nor is there a need. Trump poses serious dangers to this country, and I fail to see the need to imagine more. Additionally, we have seen one of these polls for every administration , including Obama’s.

The country knows full well that the white middle and upper-middle class will not tolerate a draft, that they are perfectly comfortable leaving those responsibilities to the poor, lower-middle class and people of color. If we had concern for equality, we would have required national service for all Americans, as many nations across the planet do. And certainly at a time when commitment to deepening inequality and restoring the unfettered privilege of the white male middle and upper-middle class pervades national politics across the political spectrum, there is no way politicians would asked for an equitable system of national service.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
23. Yes, sadly, that is usually what happens with a draft, it ends up being the poor, lower-middle
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 03:58 PM
Oct 2017

class and people of color that get drafted. Also, with all of the inequality and lack of opportunities, sometimes people go into the military because that is really the only option to try to get a job. For some it works out really well, and others not. This is not a fair country, I get so fed up with all the BS about equality and equal opportunities that many politicians love to hawk.

GoCubsGo

(32,510 posts)
17. The more accurate question would be: Do you think Trump would sign legislation
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 03:42 PM
Oct 2017

reinstating the draft? The President cannot instate a military draft. That requires an act of Congress.

rickford66

(5,568 posts)
18. I was getting drafted in 69 so I joined for a better deal.
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 03:43 PM
Oct 2017

That was before the lottery. A few years ago I looked up the lottery results and found out I would have never been drafted for the years of the lottery. Oh well. I served with a bunch of good guys and met my future wife and saw some of the world.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
25. Glad to hear it worked out well for you!!! I've known a number of guys and gals that serving in
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 04:03 PM
Oct 2017

the military worked out really well for them! It was an excellent career choice for them.

rickford66

(5,568 posts)
35. I went in firmly against the draft, but had my mind changed.
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 05:05 PM
Oct 2017

The lifers convinced me that we need everyone, who are able, to serve and get out if and when they can. If we're going to butt in everywhere, everyone should have skin in the game.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
37. I've always felt it incorrect that only a few percentage of Americans serve in the military.
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 05:12 PM
Oct 2017

Most Americans have no skin in the game, it's over there, out of sight. Hence, many don't pay attention to what is going on, because it will be someone else. If done correctly, I've always thought a couple of years of service to the country could be a good thing, "if" done correctly. It could be all sorts of things, not necessarily active military duty.

trueblue2007

(17,485 posts)
24. donald Rump has already signed executive order to draft retired pilots back into military service
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 03:59 PM
Oct 2017

he will draft and KILL all the young people. He wants young people GONE, they will vote Democrat.

Runningdawg

(4,536 posts)
29. He might call a draft but I think he will go further
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 04:16 PM
Oct 2017

Mandatory military service for all men after HS. Charged with treason if they don't report. I'm not the only one who thinks this I have heard R-wing military guys discuss it. They see it as a purge. Pack all the liberals, sissy boys, thugs, minorities and other undesirables off to the military. The only ones who will return will be "real men" who deserve to be called Americans. Yet, they refuse to award this term to those who have already served and returned.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
31. "Us vs. Them" in the US. These hero real-men types sound more like treasonists than anyone else. n/t
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 04:23 PM
Oct 2017

mobeau69

(11,239 posts)
40. We should always have a draft.
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 05:20 PM
Oct 2017

Politically it would serve as a check on the war hawks and encourage a lot of parents and draft age kids to take their franchise more seriously. Hopefully they'd think long and hard before electing a doofus like the one we now have.

The lottery came near the end Vietnam. My number was 9. I can laugh about that now.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
41. Would a draft dodging coward named Trump start a draft?
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 05:28 PM
Oct 2017

Of course he would!

He is already granting himself the power to call up all military retirees no limits.

A draft is not a whole lot different than that huh?

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
44. But Jill Stein and others assured us that there was no difference between the republican party
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 05:35 PM
Oct 2017

and the democratic party. What happened?

I guess this is what Susan Sarandon meant by Trump bringing the revolution.

Worldwide death and destruction. Thanks Susan.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
45. And, he's just begun! You know, I bet he secretly admires Kim, all those people
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 05:45 PM
Oct 2017

adorning him, all the respect shown him, all those shiny medals on his commanders. Yep, I bet he secretly admires him. I can see it soon, forced respect for president dotard.

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