OWS just reoccupied Zucotti Park! LIVESTREAMING NOW!

[backscatter712]

They just pushed out the New York pigs!

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/12/31/1050436/-Occupy-Wall-Street:Taking-Back-Zucotti-Park-Livestream?via=siderecent

Livestream at the link!

[Sarah Ibarruri]

1. I LOVE OCCUPY! GOD, I DO! nt

[joshcryer]

97. Tim left, new streams:

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/occupeyes

www.livestream.com/occupynyc2

[woo me with science]

115. [phone] nt

[oldhippydude]

2. thanks

good way to bring in 2012

[Cleita]

3. Having a hard time streaming but it's exciting!

Anyone else having general internet problems? I have all night.

[nadinbrzezinski]

4. What a way to end the year

pd and EMS are coming back... (who needs CNN? this is actually history)

[tridim]

7. Or a good way to start the year.

[backscatter712]

5. Now police are mobilizing...

Fucking pigs...

[nadinbrzezinski]

6. Mounted offficers just arriving

they know they need to stop this... or at least try.

Power concedes NOTHING

[Fire Walk With Me]

17. Power has no choice. It will concede everything,

or create a world in which even THEY would not want to live.

Choices...

[agent46]

105. Skip the cliche "Mystery School" preaching

And you might be helpful. People need news, not your version of higher wisdom. Thank you.

[randome]

106. LOL!

Well said.

[Fire Walk With Me]

116. Oddly, I did go to a mystery school. A good one.

And I'm not preaching. I'm discussing visible Trends. Quite obviously, there is a rising trend toward freedom and democracy and a people uniting, world-wide. It is unmistakable. It's not going away. And Nadin is of course correct, in that power doesn't just walk away. It will salt the earth, it will poison the well, rather than just go. Look at the obvious trend of cops becoming more conniving and ludicrous and secretive as they desperately seek to make #Occupy go away. Look at our unlucky brothers and sisters in Egypt. So, we have two directions: a rising need for freedom and joy, and the old direction of "Do what we say or else". In Tunisia, bless them, they got free without great expense. Others are not as lucky. I'm interested in what is happening in America. I am all for Freedom and all against the old direction.

"News" will reflect these things. "A pound of protection beats an ounce of lead", said SFOTW. Knowing the trends allows for strategy. You can then -make- the news.

I am very interested in both the micro and the macro, and especially the evolution of this emergent system. I won't apologize for what I am and for that which interests me, for that which I know must be, such as Freedom. And for the manner in which it must be discussed. The Ignore button is right there, please put me on ignore. Have a good new year!

[nadinbrzezinski]

127. You of course know where the origin of the phrase power concedes nothing comes from

right?

You might want to look up Frederick Douglas... and he was right back then and it applies right now.

[CJCRANE]

119. Indeed. As I mentioned in another thread...

Circumstances can change very quickly, for the rich and poor alike. We all need a helping hand now and then.

For example, without the taxpayer bailouts, many of the 1%ers would be in the streets fending for themselves just like the rest of us.

It's time for them to pay back the favor and pay their fair share into the system that keeps them afloat.

[nadinbrzezinski]

8. They are trying to use the barricades to kettle

not effectively

[nadinbrzezinski]

9. My lord, this is intense

(and charging batteries... who knows about my local occupy)

[nadinbrzezinski]

10. Bat signal used at the park

COOL!

And cops coming out from anywhere, it is escalating.

[applegrove]

12. I'm watching CNN. Kathy Griffin is in her bra and panties. I doubt very much they will cut in to OWS

[nadinbrzezinski]

13. Because they stil have this belief

that if they don't cover it, well it never happened.

[SpiralHawk]

11. 8 minutes to 2012 in Zucotti park

Cops are on the move - tense everywhere.

[nadinbrzezinski]

14. 2012 starts wtih Zuccotti Park reocupied

In your face Bloomie!

Sorry, I should not do that... but this was not planned.

[Solly Mack]

15. Good

[malaise]

100. Ditto

What a way to welcome 2012 - Bravo Occupy!!

[Fire Walk With Me]

16. Wow! Go NYC!

[Mosaic]

18. Take that you damn fascist bloomberg!

The People will not be defeated!

[joshcryer]

19. Happy new year OWS. :)

[joshcryer]

20. "If I can't dance in the streets..."

[nadinbrzezinski]

21. They are really happy now

and the cops are just standing to the side

[joshcryer]

22. 90% of the cops are probably dealing with New Years. Going to be interestnig if they can mobilize...

...the New Years celebrators. The entire city could shut down. OK, fantasy, I know.

[nadinbrzezinski]

24. then again...

[joshcryer]

23. nm I thought they got ambushed but they went back to the park

[nadinbrzezinski]

25. American flags denied entrance into the park

ok why does that sound FAMILIAR?

[nadinbrzezinski]

26. Anti capitalista... now that is a cute chant

goes into the file...

[joshcryer]

27. anticapitalista, note the black flag for the anarchists.

I hope those kids aren't incorrectly called infiltrators, their methods aren't ideal, but they're still genuine...

[nadinbrzezinski]

31. They are a minority too

and I have had a few discussions with local ones. I ended up recommending they read Bakunin and Goldman.

[Warpy]

35. Unfortunately, it looks like both Black Bloc guys and a few drunks have joined them

and neither bunch is behaving like OWS.

This is turning into a clusterfuck.

[nadinbrzezinski]

40. Black Block is always part of the dymamic

and I would not say clusterfuck

[joshcryer]

47. The bloc has been at the front this whole time. They've been diverting the march...

...every time the police have tried to set up a roadblock. They're staying on the sidewalks so it's seriously cool how they've kept this going.

[Warpy]

69. Thanks!

I only remember them as being smashers and trashers from earlier years who managed to discredit otherwise nonviolent actions.

[joshcryer]

70. They've stopped that for OWS, when the bloc tried it they were denounced.

But they're there, just not, so black.

Especially since ordinances now have it so if you're even wearing a mask you get arrested.

If there's a black flag there's the bloc.

[Warpy]

139. Thanks!

If they can manage to respect the tactics of nonviolence/non cooperation, I'll treat them a lot more nicely when I see them around here.

I might even lend my copy of "From Dictatorship to Democracy."

[Remember Me]

148. More than likely those were the agents provocateurs, not the true

black bloc activists. they were found everywhere -- Seattle, Toronto, Italy.

[joshcryer]

28. Random guy stopped Tim and asked "Is this occupancy?" And shook his hand. :)

[Fire Walk With Me]

29. :)

[joshcryer]

30. Here we go. They're in a rich neighborhood, arrests. Wow.

[joshcryer]

32. Someone get Tim a Segway, he's been walking for hours.

[nadinbrzezinski]

37. I could use one

This reminded me to get all my batteries fully charged... you never know...

[Fire Walk With Me]

42. #Occupy Los Angeles are going to march to City Hall before midnight.

Wondering if #OSD are as well?

Edit: #Occupy LA, about to go live:

http://www.livestream.com/owslosangeles

[nadinbrzezinski]

44. That was not in the plans and they'd better not

I mean otherwise I will go down there and SHARE my lovely bugs. We did not mind at the auto show, but down at OSD, my cold might become pneumonia, Before you ask hubby and I are playing cold ping pong.

Today he joked that I picked the last batch at the local occupy. (Which is possible, I mean several of the locals were sick as can be)

[Fire Walk With Me]

59. Police break up #Occupy LA dance party, pic:

http://twitter.com/#!/dianawking/status/153379028244504576/photo/1

[joshcryer]

33. Seeing two more (4 total) arrests, potentially many more with those people...

...boxed against the building.

[nadinbrzezinski]

34. Police are trying to provoke violence

for the record.

[Fire Walk With Me]

36. Yeah, saw on his chat stream about them running scooters into people, etc.

Know them by their fruits.

[nadinbrzezinski]

38. It is a common tactic... only the language changes.

[joshcryer]

39. I did see someone purposefully step in front of a scooter.

Now, I'm not making any statements about OWS here, but it was really flagrant, and the guy stood up and everyone was looking at him and he walked away.

Otherwise yes I did see the cops trying to hit people walking across the street, at one point they had the protesters split one side of the street each.

[joshcryer]

41. Bunch of cars went by honking their horn (supposedly in support of course). :)

Exciting!

[boston bean]

43. rec go occupy.!

[joshcryer]

45. Occupy McDonalds.

I laughed.

[nadinbrzezinski]

46. This is what I grew up reading... (It applies)

Democracy, from greek demos, people kratos, government, that is government of the people....

Context for these Mafalda Cartoons, the cartoonist actually published this under the dictatorship in Argentina.When I see the police I am reminded of one where she points at a riot police van and tells her friend..."more vitamins to the state."

I fear we might be moving into this.

[joshcryer]

48. Tim is quite delirious, I hope he gets some uppers...

...or some rest, soon.

[joshcryer]

49. Looks like mass arrests are happening. Tim got out, cop let him by, told him...

..."if you want out, get out now, or you're getting arrested."

The diverting failed hard, everyone was trying to divert them down a different path but it looks like the cops got them to go straight instead, causing them to be blocked in. Hundreds of cops.

[joshcryer]

50. One reporter came up to Tim and said she was against the wall and almost got arrested.

Her AP credentials spared her.

[nadinbrzezinski]

51. And now the mass arrests start

[joshcryer]

54. Looks like he found more of them, I bet they did a pinch.

Split the protest, arrest a bunch, split it again, arrest a bunch. Unfortunately Tim hasn't been able to follow the entire march as it was being split up.

[Fire Walk With Me]

55. Interesting tweet in Tim's livestream:

tollie #OWS reporter @TimCast is speculating that NYPD allowed him to get out, only to cover up their actions by removing the live feed from crowd.

[joshcryer]

52. ARBITRARY ARRESTS. Tim heard a cop say "Get me two of them, I'll be happy."

[Fire Walk With Me]

61. #OWS marchers that were not arrested, trying to ask why the others were. Police respond with

tollie tollie williams
#OWS marchers that were not arrested, trying to ask why the others were. Police respond with "Just keep moving."

[joshcryer]

53. "Most of the people on this block are just police."

I've never seen an entire protest disappear so quickly.

[Fire Walk With Me]

56. They REALLY want #Occupy to go away. Watch for them to escalate more and more

and for their tactics to radicalize more and more people against them.

[joshcryer]

57. Cop in a suit, "Live feed, eh?" "You know why he's being arrested?" "They'll think of something."

They're watching Tim.

Edit; also, the guy was arrested for playing a drum. He was completely on the sidewalk.

[nadinbrzezinski]

58. To repeat myself from DU 2

My town has a noise abatement ordinance. NYC most have something similar. I am betting he will be charged under it.

[joshcryer]

60. And yet, all of these silly people hooting horns the entire night, and sirens and whistles.

And his drum is an issue.

I don't know what those horns are, kazoos? Whatever those people play to celebrate New Years. Very annoying sound.

[nadinbrzezinski]

63. Well we call it selective enforcement

I prefer the word harassment, but that is just me.

The selective enforcement in this town has been spectacular.

[joshcryer]

62. Hahah! I was wondering what those band cases were for! They have the flags in them! HAHA!

Win!

[joshcryer]

64. Guy in street, literally grabbed by the cops.

[Xicano]

65. Notice an HSBC was right there? How ironic

Guy gets arrested right in front of a bank...

[joshcryer]

67. Ahh, yes I saw HSBC, it didn't click. Nice catch.

[boxman15]

66. Awesome! It won't be long till Bloomberg tries to unleash his "army" on them.

The Occupy movement is here to stay! I may disagree from time to time on tactics, but its message is hugely important in today's world. I look forward to occupying even more in 2012.

[joshcryer]

68. At least no one will moan about blocking of traffic, right?

I mean, it's New Years. Traffic in NYC... on New Years.

[joshcryer]

71. IMO, Tim's and others' livestreams are moderating the level of arrests.

Tim was in with that group that was being detained, so the cops could do arbitrary arrests, but that group was then allowed to go foward when Tim came up.

[nadinbrzezinski]

72. Per stream the cops retook the park

and have closed all access to it

[joshcryer]

73. They're being detained again at another corner.

[joshcryer]

74. Cops blocked the sidewalk, and telling everyone they are blocking the sidewalk.

[Electric Monk]

75. Seems like everyone has a camera, on both sides. Fascinating. Very 21st century.

[joshcryer]

76. TIM EJECTED AGAIN. COPS ALMOST ARRESTED HIM.

[joshcryer]

77. I'd bet money Tim is being watched by the police.

I'd also bet they're under orders to let him through in order to give a "good image."

[nadinbrzezinski]

78. Not surprising, disperse while surrounded

the tape from Tim should be good evidence to have all those charges thrown

[joshcryer]

79. DON'T THROW THE CHARGES. SUE.

[backscatter712]

80. The pigs kettled them, and ordered them to disperse...

And of course, when the protesters were unable to disperse, mass arrests...

FUCKING PIGS!!!

SHIT LIKE THIS IS WHY I HATE THE COPS!!!

FUCKING HATE 'EM!

[randome]

102. For doing their job?

This is why you hate them?

[joshcryer]

103. Their job is to illegally detain people and then arrest them because they won't let them move?

If they were ordered to do that, which I highly doubt they'll ever admit to, then the person doing the order should be fired at the minimum. Instead they are hiding behind cronyism. They'll feign ignorance, get paid leave, some might get a settlement, others might be threatened with far worse if they don't comply with the "bargain" given by the courts, and so on.

The entire idea of blocking a fucking sidewalk, telling protesters that they're violating an ordinance that blocks sidewalks, and then arresting them en mass is completely corrupt. If I was a police officer and I was ordered to do that, then I would be a whistle blower from hell. If I wasn't ordered to do it but it was some idea that my fellow officers came up with, likewise, I would blow the whistle on them and get them fired.

[randome]

104. OWS is there to cause a disruption.

The cops are there to prevent that. Trying to sneak in to the park while the cops are stretched thin watching millions of partiers isn't a very courageous way to stand up to authority.

[joshcryer]

107. They marched peacefully and weren't disrupting anyone. Their noise level was no bigger...

...than the New Years partiers by any means. A guy can't beat a drum yet people can run through the streets drunk playing their kazoos. Total crap.

Hell, they even stayed on the sidewalks most of the entire protest.

[randome]

108. And yet they set up tents and trashed the barricades.

To hear you tell it, they were peaceful lambs. That's the total crap part.

[joshcryer]

109. One, read that, one tent was set up. And the protesters were allowed back in after removing it.

Don't start this revisionism with me, I followed it all night, thanks.

The police allowed them back in, it wasn't some sort of "trashing of the barricades." The barricades were piled up after the police left to follow the democratic marches through the city.

[randome]

111. Oh, so they trashed the barricades AFTER the police left.

How revolutionary of them.

While OWS is playing these victim games with NYC cops, the real heroes of 2011 are in Wisconsin getting shit done.

[joshcryer]

112. What were they supposed to do with them?

I would've cheered 'em if they loaded 'em onto a truck and sent them to the nearest recycling facility! All they did was pile them up, hardly "trashing."

[nadinbrzezinski]

123. My god, piling them like the CITY DOES is now trashing them?

By the way, not that you know this, since you have zero interest in this... OWS is not just going to parks or marching... like the folks in WISCONSIN DID... do you want me to post photos? They are also involved now in the POLITICAL PROCESS.

Granted, if you read elite media, or worst FOX, they are shiftless, dirty and have nothing of a plan, which is 180 from it.

For example, MY LOCAL OWS is now deeply involved in the INITIATIVE PROCESS. WAIT... that is not political according to you, so is voter registration.

What I find amazing is that you keep having these arguments with people who actually have a clue.

And you really need one.

[randome]

125. That's your argument?

That sometimes the city piles barricades up and so OWS in the park was simply doing the same by taking down the barricades?

Guess they should be reimbursed by the city, then.

OWS can do all the political work they want. I ENCOURAGE them to do so. But waiting until the police had their backs turned and then trying to 'retake' the park was another dumb stunt.

[nadinbrzezinski]

128. And of course if you were in charge of the American Revolution

we'd still be drinking tea and flying the Union Jack.

You really do not understand, nor want to understand, civil disobedience.

That said, those barricades were NOT trashed... and can be, are being, reused. Trashed means they cannot be reused, You understand the difference, right?

[randome]

130. Got it.

You're quibbling over the word 'trashed'.

So OWS 'rearranged' official police equipment while trying to 'retake' the park.

Damned right I don't understand why anyone thought anything would come of this except more arrests while pulling cops away from their job of keeping the city safe during a massive New Year's celebration.

And, as it turned out, nothing was changed by this.

Meanwhile, over in Wisconsin...

[nadinbrzezinski]

132. Here

I am sorry if you are incapable of understanding that MARCHES and PHYSICAL OCCUPATIONS were part of the whole universe of tactics in Wisconsin too.

Yup, those are from Wisconsin, dirty hippies I tell you, they even trashed the Capitol... (Just ask Governor Walker)

[randome]

133. Why do you keep putting out that 'dirty hippies' meme?

I haven't heard anyone use it recently except OWS supporters.

What happened -and continues to happen- in Wisconsin is people are taking their demands for redress directly to the people responsible.

OWS takes their demands to park sit-ins and then complain that the authorities want to clear the parks. When OWS takes direct action is when I applaud them.

See the difference?

[nadinbrzezinski]

134. Ah you have not heard the dirty hippie meme

The media was on it for a month or so, HARD. They even tried red baiting for two weeks.

And you keep missing this... OWSers are taking their demands DIRECTLY TO THOSE RESPONSIBLE. Or you think GOING TO CITY COUNCIL is for shits and giggles? Taking it to Congressional Representatives is just for fun?

There is more, which you do not get... WISCONSIN is part of the same movement... just as the Indignados in Spain, the kids in Tel Aviv, and the occupation in Tahrir square.

And the AUTHORITIES IN MADISON TRIED to clear the capitol, REPEATEDLY... or have you forgotten that? I am proof positive that you would have taken the side of the governor when he ordered the Capitol Closed a few times. I mean you ALWAYS, predictably, take the side of those in power. It is a pattern that many of us have noticed.

Here, more from Wisconsin camping

http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidberkowitz/5566977652/

And yes PEOPLE CAMPED as well, inside of the ROTUNDA and OUTSIDE IT.

By your definition they should have been evicted, I tell you.

[randome]

136. I'm saying the 'dirty hippie' meme hasn't been used recently except by OWS.

Why keep bringing it up when no one else is using it?

Zuccotti Park is in the financial district. Taking a protest directly to those responsible in Wisconsin is the best way to confront injustice.

Trying to convince Wallstreeters to change their ways because it's the 'right' thing to do? That hasn't worked out so well, has it?

I am taking the side of power, am I? By pointing out what is self-evident to everyone else this morning -that trying to 're-invade' Zuccotti Park during the New Year's celebration was a waste of everyone's time.

[nadinbrzezinski]

138. And we know the finantial industry has ZERO influence in DC

and in the writing of laws...

Ok...

In your fantasy they are not taking it to those responsible... they are.

And it wasn't a waste of time, except to you...

And it wasn't an invasion. You will take the side of the powerful every time and you do not understand CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE.

You know the kids who sat at a lunch counter. you would have laughed about them too.

You will keep shitting on every one of these threads, because that's what you do. Until OWS does what you aprove off, which they will never be pure enough or good enough for you. That is the truth. You simply do not get them and shit on everything they do. Nor do you know 1% of what they do, no pun.

[Zorra]

145. LOL! Occupy Is.

We won. Nothing you can do about it now. We Are, and we're here to stay.
Millions of us.

Hey kids! Say "hi" to randome!
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[nadinbrzezinski]

122. So now walking is causing disruption?

I'd better be careful next time I go downtown...

Son you really should look up for any police department that is hiring. You are prime material

[randome]

126. I'm sure the cops can tell who is OWS and who is not simply by looking at them.

They did not single out people who belonged to OWS. They singled out people who tried to 'retake' the park.

If they were simply arresting people who were 'walking', as you put it, then there should be plenty of non-OWS people arrested, too, right?

[nadinbrzezinski]

129. They can? What do ows wears that is special?

SOME wear things that identify them, but MOST wore pretty regular clothes son... like you know coats, jeans and boots, like everybody else.

I watched the march... I guess the guy wearing the blue collared shirt, and slacks, had a tattoo somewhere.

Or the gal wearing a long coat, and jeans and boots... yup...

Either belonged at a new year's party or the office by the way, so be careful when you go downtown ok. You might be picked up on suspicion of OWS activity.

[randome]

131. That was my point.

They had no way of targeting OWS members so why make this about the police trying to 'inconvenience' OWS?

That clearly wasn't the goal of the police last night.

[nadinbrzezinski]

135. But they kettled people, ordered them to disperse

and then arrested them for failure to disperse

You think that is ok? THere is more, given there is actual video evidence, do you think that will hold in court?

Oh and your point is that OWS should just pack it and go away.

[SixthSense]

118. There was another group of people that was "just doing their job"

Bunch of angels, weren't they? Maybe my memory is a bit hazy...

[nadinbrzezinski]

121. Since there is tape

those charges wil NOT STAND in court, but you knew that.

They were ordered to disperse and PREVENTED from doing it. Again, you knew that... or maybe you did not since you will not bother to watch any of the tapes.

That is not their job by the way. That is called harassment.

[Odin2005]

140. Would you do a job that is immoral?

These PIGS are complicit.

[joshcryer]

81. Observer from National Lawyers Guild just arrested AFTER BEING RELEASED.

[joshcryer]

82. THEY PULLED A POLICE VAN TO BLOCK THE VIEW, GUILD LAWYER STARTS TO MAKE A PHONE CALL...

...GETS ARRESTED.

[joshcryer]

83. Snarky ass cop to Tim, "You escaped!" Tim, "Oh, no, they threw me out."

No response. Tim is being watched. I bet money he's being watched.

[Fire Walk With Me]

117. No question at all. I saw two cops look back at him and -quickly- turn away,

and they did not again face the camera.

This is highly telling. I call for a hundred more livestreamers!

[joshcryer]

143. He had 3000 viewers at the peak. If it was 100 live streamers with 30 viewers each...

...I think that they wouldn't give a crap about arresting one.

[Fire Walk With Me]

146. Yes, but the cameras and recordings block their desire to be violent and to lie.

As the wise person recently said, cameras are the new guns.

[joshcryer]

84. Tim related the NLG arrest to another NLG guy.

[joshcryer]

85. Irony, mass arrests happening in front of Verizon building. Yaknow, the twirps who tried raising...

..rates.

[joshcryer]

86. Oh god, these 1%ers questioning Tim.

[joshcryer]

87. HAHAH! Yes! That bloc leader (?) still didn't get arrested!

That made my night! He's still free. If anyone has been watching all night you'd know who I'm talking about.

[joshcryer]

88. Tim just mentioned Mohammad Nabbus. Fuck yes. That's what this is about, Tim.

[Jim Warren]

89. Updates?

xxx

[joshcryer]

90. Tim is heading down to the police precinct. Many many people were arrested.

Possibly hundreds (depends on whether they dispersed during the arrests or what).

Zuccotti Park was taken back by police.

[Jim Warren]

91. Thanks

My son is there

[joshcryer]

93. Hope he's OK. They're being very liberal on arrests. Jaywalking gets ya.

Best wishes.

[joshcryer]

92. Tim: Cop deliberated removed me from group, want to remove feeds without arresting feeds.

Yep, Tim, I surmised the same thing. A lot of people facepalming when that cop said "you can go on through."

[joshcryer]

94. First time I heard a number of arrests. "Over 60."

[joshcryer]

95. LOL! Tim live streaming from inside NYPD! LULZ!

WIN. DAMN TIM, BE CAREFUL DUDE.

[joshcryer]

96. Tim left, new streams:

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/occupeyes

http://www.livestream.com/occupynyc2

[Electric Monk]

98. Kinda off topic, but I wonder if occupeyes knew her stream would start with a car ad? nt

[joshcryer]

99. Probably didn't know the content, but I'm sure she knew it would have an ad.

You have to pay a fee to get rid of the ads, I think.

Only bad thing about these feeds is that they're filled with toxic psychopath Ron Paul supporters who are repeatedly bashing OWS. And people say Ron Paul "has crucial views."

[ellisonz]

101. Fuck Ron Paul. n/t

[Shankapotomus]

110. They need a flag (nt)

[joshcryer]

113. This one was flying for about 6 hours last night:

[Shankapotomus]

114. a plain black flag?

What's it symbolize?

[nadinbrzezinski]

124. One of the many groups in the movement a MINORITY GROUP

the anarchist. (By the way the techniques of self governance ARE 19th century anarchist vintage, which reminds me... no they are not to destroy all government... but to replace the current top down hierarchies with a more horizontal system of self government where people are valued equally)

As to the American flag, they tried, they were prevented by Security and later the cops... since you know the pole can be used as a weapon. Given San Diego PD started that, it is a new tactic to make sure these dirty hippies remain outside the society. Realize a tactic one city tries, quickly spreads around.

[joshcryer]

142. What's interesting is it kept disappearing, I suspect they put it in band cases.

Every time the cops got close it would disappear. Very sneaky of them. And shows that "pride in the black flag" isn't there. It's not about the flag, and that's what was important, imho.

[nadinbrzezinski]

144. I know, here the flag (as in American flag) is now a huge issue

And yes, somewhere in this a court or two will be involved..

Makana comes to mind

We'll Occupy the Streets.
We'll Occupy the Courts
We'll occupy the offices of you, till you do the bidding of the many not the few.

[Fire Walk With Me]

147. Hm. By this definition, I -am- an anarchist.

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"to replace the current top down hierarchies with a more horizontal system of self government where people are valued equally".

And Note: As howlingly livid as the nonsense gets me, I am against violence.

[ananda]

120. Bump

nt

[valerief]

141. Wonderful! nt