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Politico reports:
Sam Clovis, President Donald Trumps controversial nominee to be the Agriculture Departments chief scientist, has been a fully cooperative witness in the Senate Intelligence Committees investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 election, Senate Agriculture Chairman Pat Roberts told POLITICO.
Clovis, a former co-chair and policy adviser to Trumps campaign, knew that another campaign adviser, George Papadopoulos, was talking to Russians, according to news reports based on documents released Monday as part of special counsel Robert Muellers probe.
Clovis nomination to the top scientific job at the Agriculture Department has already drawn significant opposition from Democrats and scientists who have raised concerns about his climate-change skepticism, his credentials and his history of making disparaging statements about blacks, women, LGBT individuals and others. But theres been no public opposition from Republicans, and Roberts said he plans to continue with a planned Nov. 9 confirmation hearing.
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/31/sam-clovis-senate-russia-investigation-244370
Oh man, Sam Clovis testified before Mueller's grand jury just days before Papadopoulos's guilty plea was unsealed
Link to tweet
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/top-trump-campaign-aide-clovis-spoke-mueller-team-grand-jury-n816106
Does it matter an R is saying this and not mueller? Id say this means nothing.
This is exactly the conclusion they wanted people to draw. Id like to think hes in deep deep shit.
marybourg
(12,620 posts)ClusterFreak
(3,112 posts)Cuz I'm starting to feel a bit like a schadenfreude glutton!!!
Stinky The Clown
(67,791 posts)Dread Pirate Roberts
(1,896 posts)Highway Patrol too. You think they can get him to say "21-50 to Headquarters" during his confirmation hearing?
The guy is a racist, homophobe, misogynist, anti-science idiot. What kind of witness will he make? Maybe he can appear as a character witness for Trump.
louis-t
(23,292 posts)10-4. Exercising my feeble memory.
Bleacher Creature
(11,256 posts)There's about to be a nationwide shortage on popcorn!!
tomp
(9,512 posts)robertpaulsen
(8,632 posts)We know for a fact Papadopoulos is cooperating. Papadopolous answered to Clovis. Clovis answered to Sessions.
And who does Sessions answer to?
We're gonna need a bigger tub of popcorn!
certainot
(9,090 posts)robertpaulsen
(8,632 posts)The standard under which an Attorney General or acting Attorney General (Rosenstein) to fire a special prosecutor is for misconduct, dereliction of duty, incapacity, conflict of interest, or for other good cause, including violation of Departmental policies.
http://www.factcheck.org/2017/06/can-trump-fire-mueller/
Could any Trump surrogate BS about Mueller that way? Maybe to the Deplorable base but not to mainstream America.
certainot
(9,090 posts)and a myriad of other issues. a few hundred think tank putin trolled blowhards on 1500 radio stations are what matters.
limbuagh has been explaining to the trump base that mueller is working for the dems, laying the groundwork support from the base for the firing.
the dossier was made up, the evidence is made up, mueller is part of the clinton obama deep state, and there are a lot of commies around - that is the tone blasting from 1500 radio stations 15 hrs a day and the left ignores it.
that is why truth and facts are irrelevant. the talk radio gods and fox will keep the base enraged enough to keep the republican reps enabled and intimidated enough to help trump, force compromise from the dems, and NOT do the right thing.
all because the left ignores talk radio.
trump may be getting advice not to fire mueller but he will anyway because he'll hear the deluded 20% base screaming for it via limbaugh and fox. then it will all take longer and the nuts will get nuttier and the dems will feel like they have to deal.
as long as the left/dems ignore talk radio it's all fucked.
robertpaulsen
(8,632 posts)When Trump has Mueller fired, we will be out in the streets and we will STAY there. Not just the left, but independents as well. Congress will not be able to look the other way because we will tie up their phones, block their offices, do whatever we have to to prevent business as usual.
Not saying you don't have a point; I'm all for re-instating the Fairness Doctrine, which really needs to be a main priority in any future Dem administration. But there are other means we have at our disposal now to have our voices heard.
certainot
(9,090 posts)and the 88+ universities that broadcast sports on them!
especially those universities - all those universities are legitimate places to protest such an event, or any other trump or republican treason.
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tblue37
(65,336 posts)trying to obstruct the investigation.
n/t
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Give an unqualified man a high paying job to buy his loyalty?
Nevernose
(13,081 posts)According to a Kansas Koch Republican leader, he was cooperative with the private Republican Senate hearings, which is worth precisely nothing.
We know he was called to say things in front of the GJ, but the Mueller team has had zero leaks. He might have plead the Fifth the entire time, he might have squealed, he might have had amnesia, no one knows. The Politico article doesnt even touch on it.
There are other people on the Internet(s), however, that can do a good job explaining of how/Why Clovis is so important. Hes one of the three living people that we know of that can prove Trump traded leaks for dropped sanctions.
dhol82
(9,352 posts)Thank you.
certainot
(9,090 posts)on the other hand, clovis might be thinking about the joys of prison food.....
ecstatic
(32,687 posts)does that mean there's a chance that Clovis lied before the grand jury, not knowing what potential information was already out there? And due to that, he's now a cooperating witness, like George?
Vestigial_Sister
(182 posts)like a pig that you are!!
lindysalsagal
(20,678 posts)Anyone who did anything with him is now guilty by association.
dembotoz
(16,799 posts)His confirmation hearing?
Preparations must be made
not fooled
(5,801 posts)for now, as this buffoon has "withdrawn his nomination." USDA employees off suicide watch.
However, it remains to be seen what fresh horror awaits in the form of the next nominee, although it's difficult to imagine anyone worse.
certainot
(9,090 posts)and according to sam nunberg he studied 1000s of hours of talk radio in '14 and reported to trump.
this is the talk radio president and it was probably putin's guys who told him to do that so they could coordinate trolling and piggyback decades of anti hillary bullshit.
yet dems ignore talk radio and don't even poll for it
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Republican Senator Roberts has said that he "a fully cooperative witness.
Coming from a Republican Senator that doesn't mean that he has pled guilty and is cooperating with Mueller, it is just PR spin from Roberts, who at the time that he made the statement, was still trying to pimp Clovis to a senior job in Agriculture.
We shouldn't consider anybody has "flipped" until we see the guilty plea unveiled in court ala Papadopoulos.