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Tue Oct 31, 2017, 07:08 PM

Trump Nominee Sam Clovis Has Turned - Testified days before Papadopoulos's guilty plea was unsealed

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Politico reports:

Sam Clovis, President Donald Trump’s controversial nominee to be the Agriculture Department’s chief scientist, has been “a fully cooperative witness” in the Senate Intelligence Committee’s investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 election, Senate Agriculture Chairman Pat Roberts told POLITICO.

Clovis, a former co-chair and policy adviser to Trump’s campaign, knew that another campaign adviser, George Papadopoulos, was talking to Russians, according to news reports based on documents released Monday as part of special counsel Robert Mueller’s probe.

Clovis’ nomination to the top scientific job at the Agriculture Department has already drawn significant opposition from Democrats and scientists who have raised concerns about his climate-change skepticism, his credentials and his history of making disparaging statements about blacks, women, LGBT individuals and others. But there’s been no public opposition from Republicans, and Roberts said he plans to continue with a planned Nov. 9 confirmation hearing.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/31/sam-clovis-senate-russia-investigation-244370



Oh man, Sam Clovis testified before Mueller's grand jury just days before Papadopoulos's guilty plea was unsealed



https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/top-trump-campaign-aide-clovis-spoke-mueller-team-grand-jury-n816106

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Reply Trump Nominee Sam Clovis Has Turned - Testified days before Papadopoulos's guilty plea was unsealed (Original post)
kpete Oct 2017 OP
Hornedfrog1985 Oct 2017 #1
marybourg Oct 2017 #2
ClusterFreak Oct 2017 #3
Stinky The Clown Oct 2017 #4
Dread Pirate Roberts Oct 2017 #5
louis-t Nov 2017 #26
Bleacher Creature Oct 2017 #6
tomp Nov 2017 #15
robertpaulsen Oct 2017 #7
certainot Nov 2017 #20
robertpaulsen Nov 2017 #24
certainot Nov 2017 #25
robertpaulsen Nov 2017 #28
certainot Nov 2017 #29
flying_wahini Nov 2017 #32
tblue37 Oct 2017 #8
Owl Nov 2017 #17
UTUSN Oct 2017 #9
L. Coyote Oct 2017 #10
Nevernose Oct 2017 #11
dhol82 Nov 2017 #12
certainot Nov 2017 #21
ecstatic Nov 2017 #13
Vestigial_Sister Nov 2017 #14
lindysalsagal Nov 2017 #16
dembotoz Nov 2017 #18
not fooled Nov 2017 #19
certainot Nov 2017 #22
grantcart Nov 2017 #23
sunonmars Nov 2017 #27
Doitnow Nov 2017 #30
L. Coyote Nov 2017 #31

Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Oct 31, 2017, 07:15 PM

1. Um

 

Does it matter an R is saying this and not mueller? Id say this means nothing.

This is exactly the conclusion they wanted people to draw. Id like to think hes in deep deep shit.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Oct 31, 2017, 07:16 PM

2. Strange. nt

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Oct 31, 2017, 07:16 PM

3. Can a person experience 'too much' schadenfreude??

Cuz I'm starting to feel a bit like a schadenfreude glutton!!!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Oct 31, 2017, 07:16 PM

4. What's next? Recruiting staff inside federal prisons?

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Oct 31, 2017, 07:18 PM

5. I loved this guy in All The Kings Men!

Highway Patrol too. You think they can get him to say "21-50 to Headquarters" during his confirmation hearing?



The guy is a racist, homophobe, misogynist, anti-science idiot. What kind of witness will he make? Maybe he can appear as a character witness for Trump.

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Response to Dread Pirate Roberts (Reply #5)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 03:38 PM

26. Broderick Crawford.

10-4. Exercising my feeble memory.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Oct 31, 2017, 07:22 PM

6. So he's cooperating against Trump AND a Trump nominee?

There's about to be a nationwide shortage on popcorn!!

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Response to Bleacher Creature (Reply #6)

Thu Nov 2, 2017, 06:22 AM

15. Insane!. nt

 

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Oct 31, 2017, 07:41 PM

7. If that's correct, I think Sessions is TOAST!

We know for a fact Papadopoulos is cooperating. Papadopolous answered to Clovis. Clovis answered to Sessions.

And who does Sessions answer to?

We're gonna need a bigger tub of popcorn!

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Response to robertpaulsen (Reply #7)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 10:43 AM

20. who does trump replace sessions with and can he then fire mueller?

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Response to certainot (Reply #20)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 01:38 PM

24. A Sessions replacement could fire Mueller. Rod Rosenstein could do it right now.

The standard under which an Attorney General or acting Attorney General (Rosenstein) to fire a special prosecutor is “for misconduct, dereliction of duty, incapacity, conflict of interest, or for other good cause, including violation of Departmental policies.”

http://www.factcheck.org/2017/06/can-trump-fire-mueller/

Could any Trump surrogate BS about Mueller that way? Maybe to the Deplorable base but not to mainstream America.

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Response to robertpaulsen (Reply #24)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 03:36 PM

25. it doesn't matter what the mainstream wants. that has been proven with health care, immigration,

and a myriad of other issues. a few hundred think tank putin trolled blowhards on 1500 radio stations are what matters.

limbuagh has been explaining to the trump base that mueller is working for the dems, laying the groundwork support from the base for the firing.

the dossier was made up, the evidence is made up, mueller is part of the clinton obama deep state, and there are a lot of commies around - that is the tone blasting from 1500 radio stations 15 hrs a day and the left ignores it.

that is why truth and facts are irrelevant. the talk radio gods and fox will keep the base enraged enough to keep the republican reps enabled and intimidated enough to help trump, force compromise from the dems, and NOT do the right thing.

all because the left ignores talk radio.

trump may be getting advice not to fire mueller but he will anyway because he'll hear the deluded 20% base screaming for it via limbaugh and fox. then it will all take longer and the nuts will get nuttier and the dems will feel like they have to deal.

as long as the left/dems ignore talk radio it's all fucked.

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Response to certainot (Reply #25)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 04:00 PM

28. It DOES matter. We outnumber them. Bigly.

When Trump has Mueller fired, we will be out in the streets and we will STAY there. Not just the left, but independents as well. Congress will not be able to look the other way because we will tie up their phones, block their offices, do whatever we have to to prevent business as usual.

Not saying you don't have a point; I'm all for re-instating the Fairness Doctrine, which really needs to be a main priority in any future Dem administration. But there are other means we have at our disposal now to have our voices heard.

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Response to robertpaulsen (Reply #28)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 04:56 PM

29. i hope the protests will do it. and i hope the protests include the radio stations

and the 88+ universities that broadcast sports on them!

especially those universities - all those universities are legitimate places to protest such an event, or any other trump or republican treason.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Oct 31, 2017, 07:42 PM

8. If he talks to Mueller, good. But the Repubs on the Senate committee are

trying to obstruct the investigation.

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Response to tblue37 (Reply #8)

Thu Nov 2, 2017, 08:17 AM

17. Exactly.

n/t

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Oct 31, 2017, 08:31 PM

9. k r

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Oct 31, 2017, 08:40 PM

10. Big, fat payoff job with all the appearances of serious impropriety.

Give an unqualified man a high paying job to buy his loyalty?

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Oct 31, 2017, 08:53 PM

11. Slow your roll, there, chief

According to a Kansas Koch Republican leader, he was cooperative with the private Republican Senate hearings, which is worth precisely nothing.

We know he was called to say things in front of the GJ, but the Mueller team has had zero leaks. He might have plead the Fifth the entire time, he might have squealed, he might have had amnesia, no one knows. The Politico article doesn’t even touch on it.

There are other people on the Internet(s), however, that can do a good job explaining of how/Why Clovis is so important. He’s one of the three living people that we know of that can prove Trump traded leaks for dropped sanctions.

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Response to Nevernose (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 1, 2017, 10:17 PM

12. Good reminder

Thank you.

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Response to Nevernose (Reply #11)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 10:46 AM

21. yes. and it cannot be overstated - pat roberts is a REPUBLICAN

on the other hand, clovis might be thinking about the joys of prison food.....

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Nov 1, 2017, 10:22 PM

13. Since his testimony was before the Papadopoulos info was revealed,

does that mean there's a chance that Clovis lied before the grand jury, not knowing what potential information was already out there? And due to that, he's now a cooperating witness, like George?

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Nov 2, 2017, 01:57 AM

14. SQUEAL...

like a pig that you are!!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Nov 2, 2017, 06:37 AM

16. Because of the illegal business in trumpco, any appearances are good: Honest or lying.

Anyone who did anything with him is now guilty by association.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Nov 2, 2017, 08:27 AM

18. So if placed on home arrest like manafort how will he attend

His confirmation hearing?
Preparations must be made

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Response to dembotoz (Reply #18)

Thu Nov 2, 2017, 10:02 PM

19. USDA has been spared

for now, as this buffoon has "withdrawn his nomination." USDA employees off suicide watch.

However, it remains to be seen what fresh horror awaits in the form of the next nominee, although it's difficult to imagine anyone worse.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 10:51 AM

22. btw clovis, like pence and roger stone, have talk radio histories

and according to sam nunberg he studied 1000s of hours of talk radio in '14 and reported to trump.

this is the talk radio president and it was probably putin's guys who told him to do that so they could coordinate trolling and piggyback decades of anti hillary bullshit.

yet dems ignore talk radio and don't even poll for it

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 11:45 AM

23. I disagree with your assessment that Clovis "has turned".


Republican Senator Roberts has said that he "“a fully cooperative witness”.

Coming from a Republican Senator that doesn't mean that he has pled guilty and is cooperating with Mueller, it is just PR spin from Roberts, who at the time that he made the statement, was still trying to pimp Clovis to a senior job in Agriculture.

We shouldn't consider anybody has "flipped" until we see the guilty plea unveiled in court ala Papadopoulos.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 03:53 PM

27. like snakes in a pit, will climb over each other to get to the goods....

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 02:17 PM

30. Members of a gang stick together----until they don't.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Nov 5, 2017, 09:41 PM

31. 'Victory for Science' as 'Comically Bad' Sam Clovis Withdraws

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