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Tue Oct 31, 2017, 07:36 PM

It's important to know if a mass killing is terror or JUST "gun violence"

It's important to know if a mass killing is terror or just "gun violence"
so we can know if we should do everything to prevent it or nothing





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Reply It's important to know if a mass killing is terror or JUST "gun violence" (Original post)
kpete Oct 2017 OP
hlthe2b Oct 2017 #1
AncientGeezer Oct 2017 #2
Hoyt Oct 2017 #3
AncientGeezer Oct 2017 #5
Hoyt Oct 2017 #8
AncientGeezer Oct 2017 #12
maxsolomon Oct 2017 #4
AncientGeezer Oct 2017 #7
maxsolomon Oct 2017 #9
AncientGeezer Oct 2017 #13
maxsolomon Oct 2017 #15
AncientGeezer Oct 2017 #18
mythology Oct 2017 #20
maxsolomon Nov 2017 #21
madamesilverspurs Oct 2017 #6
AncientGeezer Oct 2017 #10
HipChick Oct 2017 #11
AncientGeezer Oct 2017 #14
HipChick Oct 2017 #16
AncientGeezer Oct 2017 #17
Initech Oct 2017 #19

Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Oct 31, 2017, 07:37 PM

1. Yup... that about sums it up...

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Oct 31, 2017, 07:48 PM

2. Kind of a sick take....even 28 days ago.

What relevance does this have today kpete?

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Response to AncientGeezer (Reply #2)

Tue Oct 31, 2017, 08:08 PM

3. Isn't that what you gunners want, no infringement or some such BS, if guns.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #3)

Tue Oct 31, 2017, 08:16 PM

5. Yeah...um no. You wouldn't know what we want anymore than you know

when you started using White Wingers....shall we revisit that?
I'm willing....You?
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=9757313

Shall we ban paint and b-b guns as well as pick up trucks now?

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Response to AncientGeezer (Reply #5)

Tue Oct 31, 2017, 08:25 PM

8. We are on a different topic now, OldGeezer. The OP made a good point, and

you arrive to obsfuscate on behalf of precious guns.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #8)

Tue Oct 31, 2017, 08:40 PM

12. The OP made no good point...

A tweet from 29 days ago makes NO good point....
And you can't seem to be honest with regards to your posting history...as shown above.
But..... you are a fun dude Hoyt...sadly for you, you appear to not be aware of how the internet works...your posts last....but fun for me.
Please continue

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Response to AncientGeezer (Reply #2)

Tue Oct 31, 2017, 08:14 PM

4. If you can't see the relevance

Try harder.

Both are Terrorism. One requires us to question ourselves, the other allows us to blame others. Neither has a simple solution.

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Response to maxsolomon (Reply #4)

Tue Oct 31, 2017, 08:24 PM

7. "Neither has a simple solution."...Absolutely

but you lose the argument at..."..the other allows us to blame others"...what others?
A freak with a rented PU that mows down 8 and yells Allah Akbar is comparable how?

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Response to AncientGeezer (Reply #7)

Tue Oct 31, 2017, 08:29 PM

9. Allahu Akbar is the correct phrase: "God is Great"

One would think that after 16 years of war with Sunni Islam you'd have learned it.

Others = every Muslim on Earth.

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Response to maxsolomon (Reply #9)

Tue Oct 31, 2017, 08:42 PM

13. Ok...let's run with that.

Who did this today?

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Response to AncientGeezer (Reply #13)

Tue Oct 31, 2017, 08:49 PM

15. When did I deny that a Muslim did it?

We know his name, we know where he's from, and we can reasonable speculate his religion, motive, and inspiration. That's not in contention.

Go count the bodies in Las Vegas again. That terror has no readily discernible cause but our insistence that private arsenals are essential to our Liberty, but there's nothing to be done, no one to hold responsible. That's just the cost of Freedom.

That's the point of the OP but you refuse to consider it. Or you're not capable.

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Response to maxsolomon (Reply #15)

Tue Oct 31, 2017, 09:07 PM

18. The point of the OP was irrelavant to the attack that happened today

It had nothing to do with a tweet from 29 days ago....and not at all comparable.

I never refuse to "consider" anything....I just refuse to fall for bulls***.

"Go count the bodies in Las Vegas again" Why?
We know what that scumbag did.
Vegas has nothing to do with what this freak did today...with a PU truck and fake guns.

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Response to AncientGeezer (Reply #18)

Tue Oct 31, 2017, 09:19 PM

20. Do the dead care that the guy in Las Vegas didn't leave a note, or didn't use religion to justify it

 

Are they less dead? Will the next victims of a mass shooting or even just the every day run of the mill gun violence that has become our reality be any less dead? Unfortunately a small, but vocal segment of our society has said that we can do absolutely nothing that might limit the capacity of people with guns to kill people. That same segment also highly overlaps with the people who think Muslims are inherently bad and are happy to ban them from the country. The difference being religion and skin color. In 2013, over 11,000 Americans died from gun violence excluding suicide, accidental deaths and undetermined. We lose our minds over 3,000 people dying on 9/11, but ignore over three times that number dying every year due to idiots and their guns.

Sure getting rid of guns wouldn't have stopped this guy, but it's incredibly silly to pretend that the far more limited form of violence gets a lot more attention than the far more common form.

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Response to AncientGeezer (Reply #18)

Wed Nov 1, 2017, 12:35 PM

21. The Point: it's all Terrorism

Islamic Terror, White Man with Guns Terror. Las Vegas was Terrorism. It's All Terror.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Oct 31, 2017, 08:17 PM

6. If memory serves (again and again and again, dammit)

If the perp is white, gun violence is the "price of freedom."

If the perp is Black or brown or Muslim, THEN it's terrorism.


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Response to madamesilverspurs (Reply #6)

Tue Oct 31, 2017, 08:31 PM

10. Yelling Allah.....might be a clue.

Mayor de Blasio saying..... "Let me be clear based on this information we have at this moment: this was an act of terror...."

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Oct 31, 2017, 08:32 PM

11. Depends on the color of the skin of

the perp..

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Response to HipChick (Reply #11)

Tue Oct 31, 2017, 08:45 PM

14. The perp left a note...per CNN....

Has what to do with skin pigment?

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Response to AncientGeezer (Reply #14)

Tue Oct 31, 2017, 08:50 PM

16. Left a note?...

This sound so...

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Response to HipChick (Reply #16)

Tue Oct 31, 2017, 08:52 PM

17. Per CNN....

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Oct 31, 2017, 09:09 PM

19. Or as Family Guy put it:



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