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Wed Nov 1, 2017, 03:44 AM

 

Does anyone else believe this forum is actively being attacked by russians?

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Election night they hacked the forum and took it down. They know du is a threat. They want to divide us, so where do you think they will post on here? They use bernie vs hillary and other wedge issues to divide us. Im sure ill get some your crazy or whatever posts, well this is crazy.

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Reply Does anyone else believe this forum is actively being attacked by russians? (Original post)
Hornedfrog1985 Nov 2017 OP
boston bean Nov 2017 #1
Name removed Nov 2017 #6
Name removed Nov 2017 #2
Hornedfrog1985 Nov 2017 #4
Name removed Nov 2017 #8
NanceGreggs Nov 2017 #3
Hekate Nov 2017 #16
applegrove Nov 2017 #5
Name removed Nov 2017 #7
applegrove Nov 2017 #9
Name removed Nov 2017 #10
Hornedfrog1985 Nov 2017 #11
applegrove Nov 2017 #12
Hornedfrog1985 Nov 2017 #15
Ptah Nov 2017 #13
Rhiannon12866 Nov 2017 #14
nocalflea Nov 2017 #17
betsuni Nov 2017 #18
Sancho Nov 2017 #19
coolsandy Nov 2017 #20
UCmeNdc Nov 2017 #21
Skittles Nov 2017 #22
James48 Nov 2017 #24
Vogon_Glory Nov 2017 #25
samnsara Nov 2017 #35
obamanut2012 Nov 2017 #23
Hoyt Nov 2017 #26
democratisphere Nov 2017 #27
Richard D Nov 2017 #28
Honeycombe8 Nov 2017 #29
samnsara Nov 2017 #30
Hornedfrog1985 Nov 2017 #36
underthematrix Nov 2017 #31
Mike Nelson Nov 2017 #32
Hornedfrog1985 Nov 2017 #34
Turbineguy Nov 2017 #33
Orrex Nov 2017 #37
Hortensis Nov 2017 #38
hexola Nov 2017 #39
EarlG Nov 2017 #40

Response to Hornedfrog1985 (Original post)

Wed Nov 1, 2017, 03:47 AM

1. If that is the case then they have been infiltrating since the beginning if this site.

Many of the bernie or busters who come back here over and over from JPR and who also believe russia propaganda about hillary were long time members.

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Response to Name removed (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 1, 2017, 03:53 AM

4. I fully expect

 

Some russian trolls to come in and muddy the waters... what time is it in moscow?

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Response to Hornedfrog1985 (Original post)

Wed Nov 1, 2017, 03:52 AM

3. Waaaay too obvious.

You might want to tone it down a notch or two - or two thousand.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 1, 2017, 04:21 AM

16. Good point. Name Removed got busy in this thread

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Response to Hornedfrog1985 (Original post)

Wed Nov 1, 2017, 03:54 AM

5. Yes. They practised on dividing DUers from women right after the 2012

election. Women voted for Obama and that was the story of that election. All of a sudden nobody on the DU could agree on women's issues. Which was more than odd. I called it out at the time. I thought it was republicans. Could be Russians. A few years later a war broke out over race. Again a pretty much settled issue for democrats. Next it was Bernie Hillary war. Outrageous things were said on both sides and that was a verified Russian wedgie. One thing for sure...it worked. And republicans will copy the Russians next election season. They have unlimited money to buy ads. That you for your post. It is good to touch base and remember DU is under siege.

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Response to Name removed (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 1, 2017, 03:58 AM

9. They were baited by trolls. Are you saying trolls don't exist? On the DU?

Cause republicans on the Discussionist brag about logging onto the DU pretending to be democrats and lighting fires under people all the time.

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Response to Name removed (Reply #10)

Wed Nov 1, 2017, 04:06 AM

11. Hillary spent less than trump

 

Trump was bankrolled and backed by the russian government. These are facts, not a conspiracy. Another fact is russians are still actively trying to influence our elections, via trolls who try to act like citizens of the usa posting misinformation on sites like du.

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Response to Hornedfrog1985 (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 1, 2017, 04:08 AM

12. Hillary was backed by the Russian government?

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Response to applegrove (Reply #12)

Wed Nov 1, 2017, 04:13 AM

15. No, i meant trump

 

. Intel says these russians are out there. If people dont think some of the posters on here are russian theyre kidding themselves. Id ask myself who starts these divissive convos a lot or always have a comment in them...

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Response to Hornedfrog1985 (Original post)

Wed Nov 1, 2017, 04:09 AM

13. No.

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Response to Ptah (Reply #13)

Wed Nov 1, 2017, 04:11 AM

14. I've thought about it, too, and I have to agree.

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Response to Hornedfrog1985 (Original post)

Wed Nov 1, 2017, 04:26 AM

17. I've seen trolls here.

Are they Russian or backed by Russia ?

Who knows ?

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Response to Hornedfrog1985 (Original post)

Wed Nov 1, 2017, 04:32 AM

18. Name Removed was a troll in this thread. Hates Democrats, especially Hillary Clinton.

Doesn't matter who they are, Democrat-haters don't belong here.

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Response to Hornedfrog1985 (Original post)

Wed Nov 1, 2017, 05:37 AM

19. I was convinced that was the case long before the last election...

and even though the origin of the "trolls" was a question, it appeared to me that many posts before the last election were an organized attempt at division and propaganda.

I mentioned it then, and I'm sure it's true now.

It also appears they have been here quite a while.

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Response to Hornedfrog1985 (Original post)

Wed Nov 1, 2017, 05:40 AM

20. Yes. And number has grown over the past 8 months. But they were always here through the

 

fake news spread around social media that many here believed and acted upon in 2016. The data recently released by FB and Twitter prove it.

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Response to Hornedfrog1985 (Original post)

Wed Nov 1, 2017, 05:40 AM

21. I do believe there are some Russians here on DU to control and guide conversations

I definitely think DU was brought down on election night by the Russians.

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Response to Hornedfrog1985 (Original post)

Wed Nov 1, 2017, 06:02 AM

22. if so THEY CAN ALL FUCK THEMSELVES

FUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCK YOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUU I SAY

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Response to Skittles (Reply #22)

Wed Nov 1, 2017, 06:20 AM

24. How do you say that in Russian?

Anybody know?


(If anyone does- put them on the suspect list) (thatís a joke)

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Response to Skittles (Reply #22)

Wed Nov 1, 2017, 06:24 AM

25. I have equally unpleasant sentiments to share about Russian trolls

But I donít know how to say ďF*CK YOU!Ē In Russian.

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Response to Skittles (Reply #22)

Wed Nov 1, 2017, 06:51 AM

35. translation app! Ive responsed to many a troll in russian...

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Response to Hornedfrog1985 (Original post)

Wed Nov 1, 2017, 06:07 AM

23. lulz

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Response to Hornedfrog1985 (Original post)

Wed Nov 1, 2017, 06:28 AM

26. Don't know about Ruskies, but there are definitely white/right wingers here and others trying

to divide us, ridicule us, pushing some anti-Democratic agenda, etc.

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Response to Hornedfrog1985 (Original post)

Wed Nov 1, 2017, 06:34 AM

27. Sure. Trolls of all kinds are everywhere. Stay informed and don't take the bait.

The war on truth and facts will rage on. Fight the lying bastards hard!

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Response to Hornedfrog1985 (Original post)

Wed Nov 1, 2017, 06:37 AM

28. Yes.

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Response to Hornedfrog1985 (Original post)

Wed Nov 1, 2017, 06:39 AM

29. Yep. That's what I thought election night.

Not allowed to say it. But it seemed obvious to me. It was either Russians or expert Freepers (and there aren't many of those). The forums with both parties - they were up and running. I checked FR. No problems there. Only DU...the largest Democratic forum on the internet.

Then when Trump had a surprise win, I suspected Russian involvement was responsible, all things considering.

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Response to Hornedfrog1985 (Original post)

Wed Nov 1, 2017, 06:41 AM

30. well i know some of my residual anger pops up once inna....

....while but I have learned to refer to it indirectly. And mine is based on actual experience. If anyone comes in and makes stark divisive comments I hope the mods take care of it immediately and the jury reaches a true and just conclusion....they may try to divide DU but they wont succeed.

But if they just pop in here to read...good.

It should scare the be jeezuz out of them

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Response to samnsara (Reply #30)

Wed Nov 1, 2017, 06:56 AM

36. The thing is

 

I dont think theyre going to be real obvious. Gaining peoples trust might be part of it. People you think you know very well could be russians. I know it sounds kind of paranoid, but their misinformation is contageous, its viral. They will work at securing relationships to manipulate minds. Pushing their narrative, the more they say it, or it looks like others agree with them, the more normal it seems.

There is informayion that show the russians have been planning this for a very long time.

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Response to Hornedfrog1985 (Original post)

Wed Nov 1, 2017, 06:42 AM

31. They're definitely posting threads

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Response to Hornedfrog1985 (Original post)

Wed Nov 1, 2017, 06:47 AM

32. If not, it...

...was certainly an ally knocking down DU for the 2016 election. When the site went down, it meant no reports of voting "snafus" could be reported here - they stopped the documentation of information. This told me they were very actively working on getting Trump elected. They were NOT "expecting Hillary to win" and waiting for the voters to decide. The voters' decision needed to be avoided.

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Response to Mike Nelson (Reply #32)

Wed Nov 1, 2017, 06:51 AM

34. Yup.

 

They know education and public information is an absolute threat to them. Du is one of the best resources we have... its very important and they know it.

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Response to Hornedfrog1985 (Original post)

Wed Nov 1, 2017, 06:47 AM

33. It was an impressive operation. Really.

You can tell your grandchildren about it. You got your boy into the White House. But Trump was a mistake. And we're on to you. Think up something else. You are certainly capable of it. Do something good. Take this energy and put it to use for the better.

And to those conservatives who just happened to want an incompetent buffoon as president, yes, it was just a coincidence that the Russians wanted the same thing.

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Response to Hornedfrog1985 (Original post)

Wed Nov 1, 2017, 07:08 AM

37. Nyet

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Response to Hornedfrog1985 (Original post)

Wed Nov 1, 2017, 07:20 AM

38. They're here and this post helps show how they can operate.

No, I'm not accusing you of working in a troll mill in Siberia, but those who do know well that their #1 technique is poking sticks into political sores.

We can discuss the use of wedge issues without using the very same triggering words and names they do to distract people into quarreling.

After all, this is all about keeping We the People turned on each other and unable to deal with threats most of us actually recognize, our rights being eroded and pockets cleaned out from inside, our national stability being undermined from without.

And, especially for us on DU, they're being used right here by ultrawealthy conservatives and Putin as part of their projects to break apart the Democratic Party into its many diverse factions.

They'd already have succeeded if continual outrages and threats from what the Republican Party has become didn't keep us reminded of why Democratic voters who vary widely in education, socioeconomic status, age, race, ethnicity, belief systems, geography, gender, ethnicity and leadership preference came together in the first place.

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Response to Hornedfrog1985 (Original post)

Wed Nov 1, 2017, 07:22 AM

39. They play both sides - FreeRepublic has also been penetrated

 

And have been particularly effective over there - ever since the "Fake News" meme hit...not much gets through over there.

They don't believe ANYTHING from any MSM source...anyone who becomes concerned about trump is a "never trumper"

They are more polarized against any dissenting thought than ever before.

I think "Fake News" is a big part of it and no accident.

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Response to Hornedfrog1985 (Original post)

Wed Nov 1, 2017, 07:28 AM

40. Im going to lock this

The OP is a previously banned troll, who has just been re-banned.

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